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Batista out indefinitely

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I say give Eddie a 2nd chance, he's had some time off, he obviously wants to be champ again, I'm sure he'll keep his temper in line this time.  As long he's good, business will be good.  Just give him better opponents to deal with on PPV than fucking Bradshaw.

Eddie went after a fan at the Champaign, IL house show on November 6.

 

Jason

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Guest JMA
I say give Eddie a 2nd chance, he's had some time off, he obviously wants to be champ again, I'm sure he'll keep his temper in line this time.  As long he's good, business will be good.  Just give him better opponents to deal with on PPV than fucking Bradshaw.

Agreed. But I do want to see him finally beat JBL. Knowing WWE, they'll probably kill JBL's character by turning him babyface, though. :(

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Guest Leelee
Not that race should make a difference, but I wonder if the WWE putting the belt on a black wrestler would effect TNA's chances of putting their belt on Monty Brown?

 

I'd hope they wouldn't be as dumb as Bischoff was with Prince Nakamaki.

 

Besides, Killings was champ already twice.

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Guest Brian
Does anyone know what the risks would be to Batista if did decide to rehab his back?

 

The biggest risk, is always that the pain never goes away and the injury doesn't heal.

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I think they should do an angle where Orton injures him as paycheck for "injuring his shoulder" once his feud with the Undertaker is wrapped up if Dave is still around.

 

I'd hope they wouldn't be as dumb as Bischoff was with Prince Nakamaki.

 

What happened?

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I can see them running an angle where someone beats Batista for the belt, injures him to write him out so he can get the surgery, and then Batista returns at WM where he gets the belt back.

 

It would appear that would be Randy Orton's place. I'd keep Batista as champion up to Survivor Series and not let him do any work or spots (It shouldn't be too hard to pull that off). Keep him for the SS show, Let him and some other guy, such as Kane just start brawling like crazy and are both DQed right off the bat (Does it make Batista look bad for "blowing" off his team to brawl with Kane? Kinda but oh well, keeps him from working).

 

So Randy Orton should go over Taker @ SS and then issue an open challenge for Batista @ Armageddon but Batista wants to do the match right then and there. 4-6 minutes of brawling sets up a spot where Eddy gets involved and through some craziness, Orton hits the RKO all the sudden and "upsets" Batista for the title.

 

Eddy is in tears, Batista can't move and The Orton's gang up on Eddy and take him out. Batista struggles to get up but he's clearly injured and the Ortons work him a little more and Orton Sr straps the title around Randy.

 

Sets up the obvious Orton/Eddy program that can last long enough to get Batista back for Mania.

 

The story is obvious, Orton was supposed to be the future of Evolution but Batista had to steal the spotlight. Batista's reign was destroyed by Randy's jealousy...etc etc. Eddy plays a part im sure but shouldn't be completely involved.

 

Either they do this or pull the trigger on Eddy and turn him again which defeats alot of sense.

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If they put Eddy in that spot, then they've got a guy who can get a better match out of Batista than Orton can and can make Batista look like a monster. The only problem is that you'd have a divided crowd, and WWE doesn't want that. With Orton, nobody would cheer him over Batista, but you would get worse matches and Orton couldn't sell for Batista the way he needs to be sold for. Plus, Orton being in that spot would require him beating Undertaker at SS, and I don't see that happening.

 

Actually, I could, because it means Undertaker gets to lose without doing a job.

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Let's play devil's advocate and suppose that Batista's back can't heal up in time...

 

Where do they go from there? If Orton gets the title from Batista and is suppose to hold it for Batista to take back @ WM, do you go ahead and extend the Eddy/Orton program to WM? Eddy should be capable of making Randy look like gold and make it a hot story...

 

If they go ahead and pull the trigger on Eddy and turn him, which is damn near impossible anyways...and assuming they even try to keep him as a heel, who gets the face spot if Batista cant get back?

 

Quite frankly, I'd say slapping the title on Orton is the best alternative because a heel eddy isnt going to work @ all and putting the title on Orton allows you to have a fall-back with Eddy in case Batista isnt able to return in time.

 

Or pehaps, they finally decide to think outside the box and actually push Rey. Which won't happen.

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Let's play devil's advocate and suppose that Batista's back can't heal up in time...

 

Where do they go from there?  If Orton gets the title from Batista and is suppose to hold it for Batista to take back @ WM, do you go ahead and extend the Eddy/Orton program to WM? Eddy should be capable of making Randy look like gold and make it a hot story...

 

If they go ahead and pull the trigger on Eddy and turn him, which is damn near impossible anyways...and assuming they even try to keep him as a heel, who gets the face spot if Batista cant get back?

 

Quite frankly, I'd say slapping the title on Orton is the best alternative because a heel eddy isnt going to work @ all and putting the title on Orton allows you to have a fall-back with Eddy in case Batista isnt able to return in time.

 

Or pehaps, they finally decide to think outside the box and actually push Rey.  Which won't happen.

I think they might go with Orton taking the title and Eddy chasing Orton to avenge his friend Batista. Orton won't get cheered, but I don't know Eddy will get cheered much, if at all, because the people don't want and Eddy who has friends. They want an Eddy who is out for himself.

 

They should turn Eddy full blown heel. Sure, he'll get cheers, but so what? The heel Eddy, the only heel Eddy that really works, is going to get cheers, so they need to just deal with it. As for who gets the face spot, they'll go with Rey just because they know they'll get good matches and will feel like Eddy should get a few more pinfall wins to make up for all the jobs he did. Or they could go with Undertaker. The matches will be ok to good, but we'll get shitty finishes because Undertaker is past the point of doing clean jobs.

 

Putting the belt on Rey is not the worst idea they could go with. It's not like things are going to get worse. Worst case scenario, they get some really good matches.

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If they put Eddy in that spot, then they've got a guy who can get a better match out of Batista than Orton can and can make Batista look like a monster. The only problem is that you'd have a divided crowd, and WWE doesn't want that. With Orton, nobody would cheer him over Batista, but you would get worse matches and Orton couldn't sell for Batista the way he needs to be sold for. Plus, Orton being in that spot would require him beating Undertaker at SS, and I don't see that happening.

 

Actually, I could, because it means Undertaker gets to lose without doing a job.

 

Unless WWE holds a "Cocks Only" Smackdown then you'll at least get a few audience members cheering for Orton.

 

There's a gay joke in their somewhere. First one to find it wins.

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Let's play devil's advocate and suppose that Batista's back can't heal up in time...

 

Where do they go from there?  If Orton gets the title from Batista and is suppose to hold it for Batista to take back @ WM, do you go ahead and extend the Eddy/Orton program to WM? Eddy should be capable of making Randy look like gold and make it a hot story...

 

If they go ahead and pull the trigger on Eddy and turn him, which is damn near impossible anyways...and assuming they even try to keep him as a heel, who gets the face spot if Batista cant get back?

 

Quite frankly, I'd say slapping the title on Orton is the best alternative because a heel eddy isnt going to work @ all and putting the title on Orton allows you to have a fall-back with Eddy in case Batista isnt able to return in time.

 

Or pehaps, they finally decide to think outside the box and actually push Rey.  Which won't happen.

I think they might go with Orton taking the title and Eddy chasing Orton to avenge his friend Batista. Orton won't get cheered, but I don't know Eddy will get cheered much, if at all, because the people don't want and Eddy who has friends. They want an Eddy who is out for himself.

 

They should turn Eddy full blown heel. Sure, he'll get cheers, but so what? The heel Eddy, the only heel Eddy that really works, is going to get cheers, so they need to just deal with it. As for who gets the face spot, they'll go with Rey just because they know they'll get good matches and will feel like Eddy should get a few more pinfall wins to make up for all the jobs he did. Or they could go with Undertaker. The matches will be ok to good, but we'll get shitty finishes because Undertaker is past the point of doing clean jobs.

 

Putting the belt on Rey is not the worst idea they could go with. It's not like things are going to get worse. Worst case scenario, they get some really good matches.

 

 

What should happen is simply Eddy is out to avenge his friend's injury but slowly Eddy becomes desperate to be the "man" again, that honoring Batista doesnt matter anymore. It should just be a natural progression for the story, at first it was about honor but in the end it's about the desperate need for a man to be a champion.

 

Not creative by any stretch of the imagination, he could resort to being the cheater he is and be conflicted by it because he knows it betrays his friend's honor.

 

However, if they actually did Orton/Eddy, it would consist of about 10 mexican bashing comedy skits and then one attempt of a money promo from Eddy the week before WM.

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This would be a time when I would pay Lesnar what he wants to come back, beat the living fuck out of Bastisa causing the injury, then a tournament for the title that Lesnar wins that would lead to WM versus Batista.

 

I'd like to see it.

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This would be a time when I would pay Lesnar what he wants to come back, beat the living fuck out of Bastisa causing the injury, then a tournament for the title that Lesnar wins that would lead to WM versus Batista.

 

I'd like to see it.

 

No. Keep Brock in Japan. I'm not exactly excited bout Lesnar/Batista or Lesnar/JBL.

 

There's nothing for Brock Lesnar to do in WWE.

 

Also, It'll be a long time before Vince let's his ego and pride take a hit and bring Brock back.

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Supposing Eddie turns heel and gets the title, who does he feud with though?

 

Mysterio? Don't want to see that again.

 

Orton? Don't see him being a face anytime soon.

 

JBL? As a face? LOL

 

Booker? Just turned heel so you can scratch that.

 

Undertaker and Benoit are your best options and I don't see how you can stretch that out.

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Why not just have Batista get "injured" trying to do something that would conceivably look plausible, like a Batista Bomb on Big Show in the SS match, and then announce he tore up his back the following week on SD? Then you can do a tournament where Eddie can win the title as a face, or just name 4 guys and have a match for the strap at Armageddon with Eddie winning. He can then dick around with JBL & Orton (and maybe Booker at some point) temporarily until Batista comes back and go from there with the original storyline.

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You know its been 2 years since the last title change on a TV show, I'd can't wait for the SD spoilers next week, but then again I'm expecting Long to come out and annouce the title strip from Batista.

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Guest New Jake
Do they consider him such a success that he deserves to get the belt back, though?

If they felt him a failure, the belt would have been off him by now.

 

But this is the WWE we're talking about. JBL was a failure and look how long he had the belt.

 

And yes Batista is a failure.

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