The Devile's Rejects

[Special K 0]

House of 1000 Corpses was 5 minutes of brilliance folloed by an hour of pure shit. House of 1000 Corpses absolutely sucked ass.

 

Devil's Rejects is honestly one of the best horror movies of our times. TCM, last house on the left, it takes all that crazy shut and does it well.

[2GOLD 0]

House of 1000 Corpses was 5 minutes of brilliance folloed by an hour of pure shit. House of 1000 Corpses absolutely sucked ass.

 

Devil's Rejects is honestly one of the best horror movies of our times. TCM, last house on the left, it takes all that crazy shut and does it well.

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I agree, I might be able to buy it for 4 dollars and I think I might pick it up. It's a great movie and joins the list of sequels that blow away the first one.

[dubq 0]

It's not even a horror movie, IMO.

[Nighthawk 0]

I suppose there will be spoilers in what I'm about to say.

 

The thing I don't understand about this movie, is I heard people say they cried when they die at the end. I mean, ok, they're entertaining characters, and I for one, root for the bad guys without exception, but... does it not make sense thematically for them to die? It was a perfect ending. And crying just makes you a bitch anyway. William Forsythe was so bad ass, too. I loved him, I couldn't be against him. He made John Wayne look like Richard Simmons.

 

Also, I kind of like Corpses, actually. Rob and I have similar tastes, and I can enjoy it as what he wanted it to be: a tribute to stuff. It wound up sucking as a film, but the whole was much, much less than the sum of it's parts, if you follow me.

[dubq 0]

Whoever cried during this movie is an idiot. Seriously. The only emotion Rob Zombie's movies enduce in me is the need to ask for my fucking money back because they're such an over-hyped, over-indulgent waste of time.

[Nighthawk 0]

I happen to agree that the only movie you're allowed to cry in is Old Yeller, but... in this instance, I consider over-indulgence a good thing. He's the schlock version of Tarantino. Over-hyped, probably. Tarantino is also over-hyped. But if you're a fan of the respective genres, both guys' movies are good fun.

[Corey_Lazarus 0]

Devil's Rejects is one of my favorite movies of all-time. So well-made, and the fact that William Forsythe, Sid Haig, and Bill Moseley acted so damn well in their roles made it that much better. Much love shown to Ken Foree, too, who brought the ownage as that pimp (I forget his name).

 

I need to buy this ASAP. Fuck waiting for X-Mas, I'm buying it.

[Gary Floyd 0]

The thing I loved the most about it was the fact that every character in it is despicable and evil. You really can't root for anybody. Plus, Sid Haig is the man.

[TheOriginalOrangeGoblin 0]

I love it. DDP and Danny Trejo make Domino and her friends look like such pussies when it comes to bounty hunters.

[Corey_Lazarus 0]

The thing I loved the most about it was the fact that every character in it is despicable and evil. You really can't root for anybody. Plus, Sid Haig is the man.

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That's definitely one of the things I loved about it. You WANT to hate the Firefly family...but you can't. Spaulding and Otis are so damn crazy that you have to love them, and Baby can revert to instant innocence (though she's the least likeable of the trio). And Forsythe's character (I forget the name off the top of my head, but I do know he's the brother of one of the cops in Corpses) starts off so damn likeable, and all it took was him

getting drunk and torturing Baby, Spaulding, and Otis

to turn him into a villain.

[muzz 0]

I'll probably check out Devil's Rejects, but 1000 corpses just didn't do anything for me. A lot of people I've seen who like the movie say it's almost the perfect horror film, but it was hardly scary, and the violence was bland. Spaulding was probably the only character I liked in the whole film.

 

It's just the kind of movie that infuriates me.

[Corey_Lazarus 0]

How many times have you seen House of 1000 Corpses? I hated it until my third time watching. Watched it once, hated it and thought it was boring tripe. Watched it a second time because I was bored and it was on HBO, and didn't care for it too much but found some cool parts (namely Otis). Watched it a third time, and now I love it because of how much of a breath of fresh air it is compared to almost every other horror movie that was made/released at the time.

[muzz 0]

Only once, catching it on TV late at night. I'm not a big horror movie watcher though, so that might explain why I didn't like it. It just didn't make me feel anything except a dislike for the way it was done.

[Vyce 0]

I liked Devil's Rejects, but I stand by my opinion that House of 1,000 Corpses was an absolutely terrible film.

 

That said, I can't believe anyone would be so upset as to cry at the Fireflys dying at the end. People feel sympathy for them? They're good characters, sure, they're very interesting and at times amusing, but c'mon. They got EXACTLY what they deserved. It's not as if I was cheering for them when the sheriff was torturing them, or when they ultimately met their demise.

[Special K 0]

*sniff* you hearless bastard! *sniff* I'm of the opinion that a man can cry when:

A) He hits his finger with a hammer. Ever done it? It's fucking worse than breaking a bone. Actually, physical pain should never cause crying unless some serious shit is going on. you hit your finger with a hammer and you just curse a lot.

b) When his dog dies. Or for pussy old me, a cat. Though I probably won't cry when they die. They're really cute though!

Beyond that? Only siblings and parents warent an out. Beyond that, buck up soldier.

 

Anyone who cried at the end of 'Devil's Rejects' Probably cries during Rocketman, Toy Story, and Buffy.

 

I cried at the end of 'Henry" Portrait of a Serial Killer Oh boo hoo hoo.

 

Caveat: There's this movie, 'Grave of the Fireflies' It made me cry like a little fucking biatch. Only movie to do so. but, goddamn, that's a hard movie to watch.

[Corey_Lazarus 0]

...who's talking about crying? I'm saying that I got so emersed in the main characters that the torture scene was odd because it was a complete reversal of roles. In fact, once they got to the whorehouse, the whole movie banged a U'ey in terms of who Rob seemingly wanted the audience to cheer for. I liked it.

 

I liken it to a good double-turn in wrestling: the Firefly family, the heels, became much more sympathetic towards the end of the movie whereas Forsythe's character, the face, became much more evil and angry after stabbing Mama. It was, basically, a double-turn.

 

Of course, everybody got what they deserved in the end, so hey: this bird you cannot change.

[NoCalMike 0]

House of 1000 Corpses was attempting to be a horror movie in the vein of TCM, and The Devils Rejects was much more emulating a 70's Exploitation Film.

[Vyce 0]

I liken it to a good double-turn in wrestling: the Firefly family, the heels, became much more sympathetic towards the end of the movie whereas Forsythe's character, the face, became much more evil and angry after stabbing Mama. It was, basically, a double-turn.

 

Of course, everybody got what they deserved in the end, so hey: this bird you cannot change.

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But they didn't become more sympathetic. Why should I feel sympathy for them? At that point we had just watched an hour plus of them torturing and killing people for their own amusement. And the sheriff, at worst he became maybe an anti-hero, choosing his own brand of vigilante justice.

 

I liked the Firefly characters, but what I mean to say is, when they were being tortured and brutalized by Forsythe, I didn't for one second think to myself, "Wow, I hope they manage to make it out of this alive!" Was that Rob's intention? I was having none of it.

 

That said, the final five minutes were really great. Otis driving, stopping in the middle of the road, and look on his face says it all: We're fucked, might as well go out in a blaze of glory. Add to this all of the cuts Rob does showing 'home movie footage' of Otis, Spaulding & Baby during 'happier times'. Really, really strong visuals. It gives me hope that Rob is growing as a director and that future films by him will continue to improve.

 

I again have to compiment Rob on his soundtrack choices; playing Terry Reid's "Seed of Memory" during the ending credits was fantastic. Definitely the right choice after seeing the Fireflies meet a grisly, and for some people I suppose tragic, end.

[Nighthawk 0]

From his comments on the dvd, I gather that Rob wanted to allow the audience the sympathize with the Fireflys if they wanted to, but not to force them. However, it seems most people did, in the test screenings at least.

 

Bitchin' soundtrack, yeah. I was going to spring for it, but they put clips of dialogue from the movie in between the songs. I guess that's ok sometimes, but I don't like it.

[nl5xsk1 0]

Bitchin' soundtrack, yeah. I was going to spring for it, but they put clips of dialogue from the movie in between the songs. I guess that's ok sometimes, but I don't like it.

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Sounds like something someone would do on a mix tape they made for someone.

[Corey_Lazarus 0]

Eh, I kinda like the idea of putting quotes from the movie in between songs. It works on the Pulp Fiction soundtrack, so why not put some equally good, if not better, quotes from another movie on its soundtrack? I love almost every bit of dialogue from Devil's Rejects, as it's damn entertaining (especially when Otis wonders about the future of his pistol when he has the two guys from Banjo & Sullivan in the desert).

 

Rob's quickly becoming one of my favorite directors. House suffered because it was too much like a music video at times (which I suppose was due to Rob's music video-only directoral history), but other times were perfect direction (ie. when Otis shoots the old man and the young cop as Mama Firefly kills the old cop, whose brother was Forsythe's character in Rejects; I love the direction of complete silence as the camera pans out, and then the gunshot is the only sound).

[The Niggardly King 0]

I wished there was more DDP and Danny Trejo in the movie. Other than that, it's a great movie.

[Corey_Lazarus 0]

I yelled "BANG!" in the theater opening night when DDP came on-screen for the first time. Diamond hand sign and everything. A couple laughs, but mostly people giving me awkward stares.

[TheOriginalOrangeGoblin 0]

I wished there was more DDP and Danny Trejo in the movie. Other than that, it's a great movie.

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Agreed. Plus they were the most likeable characters in the movie, well in my opinion atleast.

[Guest El Satanico]

I thought it was great, and I also liked House a great deal. Sid Haig and Bill Moseley carried both films, and hopefully they get other movie offers. It was a great dirty and sweaty 70's explotation film.

 

 

There's something that has been bugging me. Fake blood that appears to be digitally added to the film. Doing it in a movie from Dark Castle is one thing, but I've been noticing it in movies like High Tension and Devil's Rejects. I have no issue with CGI, but CGI gore and digital blood is just wrong, espiecally in movies going for the old school horror feel.

[2GOLD 0]

Land of the Dead did the same shit with the CGI gore. It looks faker than the old blood solutions people used to make for the cheap horror movies. I have no idea why they are doing that.

[Special K 0]

IMDB for Devil's rejects said that Rob wanted to use old-school gore effects, but CGI blood after the fact was actually much quicker and more cost effective.

Yeah, it looks fake as fuck.

[Nighthawk 0]

Rob should make it a trilogy and do a Dr. Satan prequel.

[Corey_Lazarus 0]

I remember either watching an interview with Rob on TV or reading one with him online that he's done with the Firefly clan. I actually think he said he wants to make his next movie either a straight-up comedy or try something new.

 

And yes, CGI gore is retarded. It's not hard to mix karo syrup, red food coloring, and a little bit of water.

[Nighthawk 0]

Well, Dr. Satan's not really one of the family, at least I didn't think he was. I believe he's doing something animated next.