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All I know is that WWE is trying so hard again to get Orton over as a heel that they would use Eddie's memorial low rider to "kill" the Undertaker. How many times are they going to push this sorry excuse of a wrestler until they finally realize that he is not capable of carrying the company on his own?

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When has wrestling ever been in good taste?

 

It sounds like the show has sparked a large deal of controversy which will probably result in ratings. I have said this before, the entertainment business, not just wrestling, has always capitalized on the death of stars. Being in good taste or not usually takes a back seat to the opportunity to make money. If fans are really disgusted, they should stop watching, listening or buying the products because until that happens, we will continue to see it happen.

 

I don't see the WWE using the death of Eddie to promote their heels any different from TNA using the death of Chris Candido to promote a face or a tag tournament. I think TNA route was in better taste but is still whoring the death just the same.

 

I honestly think that the wrestlers would enjoy that their memories are used to promote angles even after their deaths. I read that Eddie's family are getting royalities from the WWE, so I don't have a problem with it.

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I thought we turned a corner a few years ago... Am i wrong? I thought that we as wrestling fans tuned into a wrestling show to see wrestlers wrestle, I think Cornette said that. I thought WWE started to promote WRESTLING not this dumb soap opera. Maybe I'm wrong, but i remember watching RAW once and i wasn't treated like a 6 year old. Maybe I'm mistaken.

 

I don't find the spot offensive (I didn't see it, i don't think we got it in the UK), but I can understand those who do, my problem with it was that it was just so dumb. When I was 8, i would have loved it. "Oh my god! Undertaker is dead! But he will not rest in peace!" Wait a minute, I said that over 10 years ago and it's still happening.

 

When did WWE ever promote wrestling? Cornette had no power. It's always been more soap opera from day one. Anyone watching Raw and expecting more than maybe one half decent match is deluded.

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Throw out the fact that it was Eddie's car.

 

Here is a question posed to me last night by non smart marks.

 

Why wasn't Randy Orton arrested, again? This is now two times that he's attempted murder on Undertaker. These marks I was with last night were put off by the fact that young Randall wasn't being surrounded by the cops for attempting to kill a person, again. I agree. It just steps out of that suspension of disbelief and is flat out illogical and that is the real reason this whole thing is fucking stupid.

 

Note to WWE- Stop doing "death" angles. You are no good at it. I guess I'm still trying to "get it".

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That was fucking retarded last year as well. It really didn't make any sense whatsoever.

 

I hate you, but I'll kill someone I do like, so imagine what I'd do to you? What the fuck kind of stupid ass logic is that? It isn't applicable in the real world and I'm pretty sure any Hollywood show or movie production folks would shit on that logic as well.

 

Only in the WWE Bubble World is any of this plausible.

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Throw out the fact that it was Eddie's car.

 

Here is a question posed to me last night by non smart marks.

 

Why wasn't Randy Orton arrested, again? This is now two times that he's attempted murder on Undertaker. These marks I was with last night were put off by the fact that young Randall wasn't being surrounded by the cops for attempting to kill a person, again. I agree. It just steps out of that suspension of disbelief and is flat out illogical and that is the real reason this whole thing is fucking stupid.

 

Note to WWE- Stop doing "death" angles. You are no good at it. I guess I'm still trying to "get it".

 

a non-smark answer

 

Since the Undertaker is already the Dead man, how can Orton be prosecuted for attempting to kill him.

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I first read A.C Dollar's post and thought it was just another poster playing a gimmick. I'm going to this thread and that stuff actually happened ! Wow, it's just so stupid, how can anybody write this shit and say "Wow, now that's entertainment !" ?

 

I'd be offended if I'd care, but I stopped caring a long time ago.

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They need to run with this whole "Orton is a murderer" thingy but instead do the opposite and have Orton go to Teddy Long demanding protection from the Undertaker. Long assigns all of the Smackdown B-Team of heels to watch Randy's back.

 

Part II of this angle is a straight-up rip off of Aliens with every member of Orton Security Squad getting picked off by Taker one by one,all the while Teddy Long and Palmer Cannon are watching via Helmet-Cams in their office.

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From PWInsider:

 

I have talked to five people so far today that work for WWE and not one of them approved of the angle that WWE did last night on the Smackdown special involving the memory of Eddie Guerrero.  They felt that it was out of line for WWE to do what they did, especially two weeks after Eddie's death.  There is a feeling that WWE, if they bothered to at all, would justify it by saying that "Eddie would want it that way", but none of the workers I spoke to about it agreed with that.  They felt that WWE wanted it that way and exploited Eddie's death as part of a wrestling angle.  For what it's worth, I share their opinion.  I really think it's tasteless to do what they did last night, tasteless to the point that it makes me embarrassed to be a wrestling fan.

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Meh he's been more of a Goth Biker than a Zombie this time around....altough he does have nine lives.  So maybe he's a Goth Biker Cat....yeah that's it.

 

Well, that was the ninth time he's "died", so maybe he really isn't coming back this time.

 

I didn't see the show last night, nor am I "disgusted" with WWE using Eddie's lowrider to further another idiotic angle that won't draw a dime. I'm pretty much immune to the crap they spew at this point.

 

Watch some Impact sometime, kids. The main event might be a tad on the weak side, but at least you actually feel like you're watching wrestling instead of some crap "Sportz Entertainment".

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You know, to be perfectly honest here, the folks at the WWE were closer to Eddie than any of us.  If they're cool with it, I don't see why anyone else here has to get their panties in a knot.  Seriously, get over it.  Get over yourselves.  Quit bitching over a FUCKING TV SHOW.  How does this affect your life?  God, the WWE honored Eddie Guerrero with pure class and everyone just forgets about it.  This is what Eddie would have wanted.  If this angle can help benefit his friends in any way, don't you think he'd be all for it?  Yeah, that's what I thought.  There's nothing here to complain about.  Fags.

 

THANK YOU!!!

 

The segment was hilarious, Eddie ties or not. My friends and I were laughing during almost the whole thing, and when they went through the set, my one friend who never swears busts out with a "Holy shit!". Good times.

 

As for the reasoning... Eddie probably wanted his lowrider creamated after his death. Randy was obviously helping him fullfill his wishes. :D

 

Seriously people, like RRR says, get over it. It's been said a million times, but it rings true... if you don't like the stuff on WWE, DON'T WATCH IT!!!

 

I don't.

 

Doesn't make their scummy business or creative moves any more palatable though.

 

Here, either way you look at it, Eddie was a real person, and he is being treated no better than Katie F'N Vick, in that they feel they can toss his name and memory out there whenever they want.

Rudo is being sarcastic

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Chavo on ByteThis said it was "great" Eddie was bring included in storylines. He also said Orton was just being a true heel by using an "any means necessary" tactic. Called it a great show. Said the wrestlers wouldn't have done it if they felt it was wrong.

 

...Chavo's take, not mine.

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...maybe? Seems like he has some integrity. Nonetheless, the WWE's been doing enough for his family that he's probably leaning towards describing their actions in a positive light.

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Guest GoJoe

Some Meltzer comments regarding the situation...

 

DM: I can't say about what Mysterio, Guerrero or Benoit thought because I don't know. It would be very wise politically for them not to say anything if they weren't happy. I do know several friends of his that were very unhappy about it.

 

DM: You don't know the situation Show or Mysterio are in. HHH could say no. So could Undertaker. Anyone else would have to deal with booking repraisals.

 

DM: The low rider stuff didn't bother me. I just saw it as a dumb angle. But they did exploit Guerrero's death for about 30 minutes straight. I just felt stupid when it was over that I gave people the benefit of the doubt last week that didn't deserve it.

 

DM: Personally, the role Mysterio played bothered me more than anyone else, but on something like that, he's in no position to say no. Maybe Show had bad judgement being that even WWE edited what he did off, but it was the people in charge of the show, and ultimately Vince as the final decision maker who deserve all the credit--and the blame.

 

DM: The video piece on Guerrero was a set up for the angle, not meant to balance things out. By the way, the company's goal was to make its audience offended. That's exactly why it did it. The idea was to be offended at Orton for doing it, and not at the company.

 

DM: I just found it ironic that a week ago WWE instructed its announcers on both shows not to mention Guerrero's name during two hour broadcasts.

 

DM: As long as people watch it in good numbers, no matter what they put out, it probably won't be canceled. And if they don't watch in good numbers, no matter what they put out, then it'll be in trouble. I doubt UPN has much respect for the show, almost nobody does these days, but it did help build and save the network.

 

DM: Let me know how the WWE's last controversy generated any money. And as far as money not coming in and getting the message, we've had three straight years of bad house show business and several rock bottom PPV buy rates. Answer me this, has anyone gotten that message?

 

DM: Actually, playing a face on one show and a heel on another in consecutive days with no angle to differentiate is one of the reasons nobody gives a crap about any angles and have little emotional ties to any of the performers..

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DM: The video piece on Guerrero was a set up for the angle, not meant to balance things out. By the way, the company's goal was to make its audience offended. That's exactly why it did it. The idea was to be offended at Orton for doing it, and not at the company.

Oh now it makes sense. It was a 'shoot' death. That dastardly Orton took matters into his own hands, it wasn't scripted at all.

 

Yeah that's the ticket.

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What did The Big Show do that was edited out?

 

Supposedly he spat on the lowrider.

 

He definitely did. You see him walking over there, he lifts up his chin dramatically, then they cut to a shot of the crowd and LOUD booing.

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Throw out the fact that it was Eddie's car.

 

Here is a question posed to me last night by non smart marks.

 

Why wasn't Randy Orton arrested, again? This is now two times that he's attempted murder on Undertaker. These marks I was with last night were put off by the fact that young Randall wasn't being surrounded by the cops for attempting to kill a person, again. I agree. It just steps out of that suspension of disbelief and is flat out illogical and that is the real reason this whole thing is fucking stupid.

 

Note to WWE- Stop doing "death" angles. You are no good at it. I guess I'm still trying to "get it".

 

a non-smark answer

 

Since the Undertaker is already the Dead man, how can Orton be prosecuted for attempting to kill him.

 

Why should any of this confound you now? The WWE have done this before with death / murder angles. Hell, does anyone remember the Kane / Shane feud? Shane LITERALLY tried to kill Kane via vehicular manslaughter and the company, including the announcers, sold him as the BABYFACE because of it.

 

Or how about Kurt Angle & Big Show? Anyone remember Big Show chokeslamming Kurt like 25 feet off a stage back when Kurt was GM? Show tried to kill a man, and when he came back a couple months later, that was barely even mentioned.

 

I agree that they need to stop doing death / murder angles. Their angles and storylines are usually ridiculous enough, but those specific angles are just so incredibly absurd that I just can't imagine even the marks being able to take them seriously. I'm not some big anti-sports entertainment guy, but goddamn, there are better ways to add drama to a feud without having one of the wrestlers faux murder his opponent. I suppose this is what you get, though, when you hire soap-opera & sitcom writers instead of people who know a fucking thing about wrestling before they applied for the job.

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Does anyone else think that the ending of the Tuesday Smackdown Special was by far the most tasteless segment that WWE has ever done?

Let us not forget about this past July.

 

I saw the finish to the show and I wasn't offended at the use of Eddie's car, I was offended of the overbooked finish as well as the goddamn extension of the Taker / Randall feud.

 

And DA who were these marks you were with, it's not like you to associate yourself with that type of ilk.

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Vyce, you hit it on the head for me. I am also not totally anti-sports entertainment and I know that pro wrestling in the U.S. has to have elements of drama and comedy to it. That said, I know that can be had without having to resort to death and shock tv tactics. It just gets embarassing after awhile.

 

 

And Darthtiki, they were some neighbors from around the way that were talking with the wife and happened to catch what I was watching.

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big show was a face already on RAW. he never turned heel, hes only a heel on SD

 

anyhow this bothered me at first, now I realize how stupid it looked for taker to be "severely injured" by kinda crashing into a big piece of plastic, which somehow set off an "explosion" that looked suspciously like fireworks

 

now rey dedicating the match and the lowrider was all well and cool if the match had a clean finish and no stupid orton-taker stuff

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