News on T4 and TV Series

[Guest Frank_Nabbit]

Peter Bracke, author of the upcoming Crystal Lake Memories book, announced the new movie will be Freddy Vs Jason Vs Michael Myers. He also announced they are considering remaking the original Halloween to start over with the series and do new movies.

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The "Terminator" franchise is rising again, this time as a Fox TV series.

 

Andy Vajna and Mario Kassar's C2 Pictures, which produced the most recent "Terminator" feature, has pacted with Warner Bros. TV and scribe Josh Friedman ("War of the Worlds") for the tentatively titled "The Sarah Connor Chronicles." SkeinSkein will focus on robo-warrior Sarah Connor and her savior son John Connor.

 

Fox has made a pilot commitment to the project, with a significant penalty attached. Net declined comment on the project, which attracted serious interest from several webs.

 

Friedman is aboard to pen the pilot and serve as exec producer-showrunner of the series, which will take place in the fictional time frame between the second and third "Terminator" features. Vajna and Kassar will serve as exec producers, with C2 senior veepveep of development James Middleton also producing.

 

In addition, Vajna confirmed that C2 is in "the final phases of development" of a fourth "Terminator" pic (Daily Variety, Sept. 24, 2004) and that the series will have a link to what's being envisioned as a new feature trilogy.

 

"There will be a connection," Middleton said. Linda HamiltonLinda Hamilton is not expected to be involved in "The Sarah Connor Chronicles." And because the series will be focused on the Connor family, it's not anticipated that Gov. Arnold SchwarzeneggerArnold Schwarzenegger would be a regular part of the skein either regardless of his political fortunes a year from now.

 

Vajna and Middleton had no comment on any potential guest role for Schwarzenegger.

 

Middleton said the series will explore what happened to Sarah Connor after the end of "T2," when the character went on the run. "She has the weight of the world on her shoulder and she also has to raise a 14-year-old son who may be the salvation of the world," he said.

 

Friedman said his "challenge is trying to figure out how to reinterpret (Connor) for television."

 

Because the "Terminator" franchise involves time travel and alternate futures, Friedman believe he'll be able to take a few plot liberties in the series -- emphasis on "few."

 

"The last thing I want to do is take a title and exploit it," Friedman said. "The show needs to stand on its own while still being respectful of the franchise."

 

Unlike the features, "The Sarah Connor Chronicles" will not be non-stop shoot-'em-up or chase scenes, in large part because of the reduced budgets of television.

 

"There's going to be a healthy dose of both (action and family drama)," Friedman said, noting that the "Terminator" mythology "has a lot of big ideas in it that don't cost you a dime to explore."

 

"T3: Rise of the Machines," produced by C2 and Intermedia, grossed $427 million worldwide; the franchise overall has grossed more than $1 billion.

 

Vajna said C2 has been weighing an entry into TV via the "Terminator" franchise for nearly two years and said the company hopes to develop other projects for the medium.

 

After deciding to take the plunge, ICM-repped C2 pitched the idea to several studios, with Warner Bros. ultimately making the most sense, Vajna said. Warners handled domestic distribution of "T3."

 

Friedman, repped by UTAUTA, wrote the script for Brian De PalmaBrian De Palma's upcoming "The Black Dahlia."

[Placebo Effect 0]

Freddy vs. Jason vs. Myers won't happen. Just like the Ash film.

 

Just give us a "Camp Crystal Lake in the snow" Jason film with a $10 million budget. It will make money. Jason X didn't make money because, even to a diehard fan like myself, it looked stupid.

[Guest JMA]

Freddy vs. Jason vs. Myers won't happen. Just like the Ash film.

It's kind of a mismatch, to be honest. Myers is just an insanely tough human (kind of like pre-zombie Jason), while Freddy and Jason are undead monsters.

 

Anyway, I think there should be a new Friday the 13th film without any past continuity. Basically, they'd just start over with a new movie (only without Jason's mother) and keep things simple. They could even make Jason seem even more like a "legend" by offering several explanations on how he became a killer. Also, it should be left up to the audience to decide whether he's human or zombie.

[2GOLD 0]

Hasn't it been established, or well it WAS established before the studio got their hands on it, that Michael Myers is more than just a human? Rather a dark entity powered by dark magic and the occult?

[NoCalMike 0]

Hasn't it been established, or well it WAS established before the studio got their hands on it, that Michael Myers is more than just a human? Rather a dark entity powered by dark magic and the occult?

 

 

meh, I think that is roughly what The Curse of Michael Myers tried to use as an explanation, but it was severely ignored in every other Halloween movie.

[BlackFlagg 0]

Hasn't it been established, or well it WAS established before the studio got their hands on it, that Michael Myers is more than just a human? Rather a dark entity powered by dark magic and the occult?

all the movies from H20 on only follow parts 1 & 2, they dropped everything that happened in 4-6

[Black Lushus 0]

alright, enough campy horror talk...

 

let's talk about how boring a Terminator related series would be without...you know...Terminators in it! I'd rather see what happens after T3 (which I guess will be T4) than seeing Sarah train John...

[dubq 0]

Meh. I liked the rumored Pinhead vs Myers story from a few years back.

[spman 0]

If they're really that determined to do a sequal, just do Freddy vs Jason 2 and give it a definitive ending, that's what everyone wants to see, none of this triple threat horse shit featuring characters for lesser movies. Even if they can't decide on a definitive ending, you could at least film an ending where Freddy wins, an ending where Jason wins, or one where they both get killed, kind of like Clue where each time you see the movie, you might get a different ending. I still wanna see the Nightmare prequal though with Freddy as the creepy child molestor.

Edited December 15, 2005 by spman

[JasonX 0]

Hasn't it been established, or well it WAS established before the studio got their hands on it, that Michael Myers is more than just a human? Rather a dark entity powered by dark magic and the occult?

 

Actually he's human; he's just a cursed human who when he was a child turned into a soulless killing machine and that the only way to break the curse/transfer it to a new victim was for him to wipe out his entire family.

 

The reason why it's not been talked about is because one of the key plotlines for the sixth film was that Michael had sex with and impregnated his teenage niece from Halloween 4 and 5 during the period between the events Halloween 5 and 6, which was removed from the theatrical cut due to the severe ick factor...

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

spman, are you seriously calling Myers a lesser known character?

 

JasonX, not that I'm disagreeing, but how the hell does his niece allow him to fuck her? Threat of being killed?

[Mole 0]

Good God, another remake?

 

THINK OF NEW IDEAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Failed Bridge 0]

A suspenseful prequel to Nightmare on Elm St where he's the child molester would be a great idea. Give it more of a Se7en feel than the slasher flick feel though. Seeing the events that lead Freddy to become Freddy would be grand.

 

I've no desire to see a movie where the plot revolves around movie character A vs movie character B. Freddy vs Jason sucked and I refuse to see Alien vs Predator as I heard its absolutely terrible.

 

I won't care about the Terminator series unless the events of the series start a little before Skynet goes up or a little bit after it goes up.

[spman 0]

spman, are you seriously calling Myers a lesser known character?

 

JasonX, not that I'm disagreeing, but how the hell does his niece allow him to fuck her? Threat of being killed?

 

 

Im not saying he is lesser known per-se, but to put it in a wrestling context, If Freddy Krueger is Hulk Hogan, and Jason is The Ultimate Warrior, adn the year is 1990, then Michael Myers is Randy Savage. Very popular upper card draw, but still not quite in the same league as the top guys.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

Myers is more like Flair. Halloween is more highly regarded than Friday the 13th and A Nightmare on Elm Street.

 

 

 

... well to the casual fans anyways.

Edited December 15, 2005 by Porter

[2GOLD 0]

Hasn't it been established, or well it WAS established before the studio got their hands on it, that Michael Myers is more than just a human? Rather a dark entity powered by dark magic and the occult?

 

Actually he's human; he's just a cursed human who when he was a child turned into a soulless killing machine and that the only way to break the curse/transfer it to a new victim was for him to wipe out his entire family.

 

The reason why it's not been talked about is because one of the key plotlines for the sixth film was that Michael had sex with and impregnated his teenage niece from Halloween 4 and 5 during the period between the events Halloween 5 and 6, which was removed from the theatrical cut due to the severe ick factor...

 

The series was just a mess. After 1 and 2, there is nothing good in the Halloween series. Every movie was just horribly stupid and hard to watch. At least the occult angle explained how he can be shot in the face and be fine. Or how at the end of the new shitfest (that includes kung fu fighting Busta Rhymes kicking his ass) that Michael gets up like nothing happened after being horribly burned in a fire.

 

And Michael Myers isn't Flair, he's more like Terry Gordy. Great early on but as things went along and more "injuries" piled up, he just wasn't the same.

[Guest JMA]

Halloween 2 really isn't good unless you compare it to the even shittier sequels (even Carpenter admits that it isn't good). I liked the original because we didn't know everything about Michael's history.

[2GOLD 0]

Halloween 2 really isn't good unless you compare it to the even shittier sequels (even Carpenter admits that it isn't good). I liked the original because we didn't know everything about Michael's history.

 

Two looks like Casablanca compared to 4,5, and 6.

And the Freddy prequel should be made but it won't be made. New Line doesn't have the balls to make it and it probably wouldn't do great business making them think it was a waste. But a prequel would re-establish Freddy as a pure monster and evil. Now he's more or less a joke, a cool joke because of Robert but a joke nonetheless.

[Guest JMA]

Halloween 2 really isn't good unless you compare it to the even shittier sequels (even Carpenter admits that it isn't good). I liked the original because we didn't know everything about Michael's history.

 

Two looks like Casablanca compared to 4,5, and 6.

Don't forget the completely worthless 3.

 

And the Freddy prequel should be made but it won't be made. New Line doesn't have the balls to make it and it probably wouldn't do great business making them think it was a waste. But a prequel would re-establish Freddy as a pure monster and evil. Now he's more or less a joke, a cool joke because of Robert but a joke nonetheless.

Agreed 100%.

[RedJed 0]

Considering New Line openly admits the Elm Street franchise put them on the proverbial map, AND there has been rumored rumblings of a prequal for a good year now at least, I think it's very possible this will happen with a NOES prequal, especially if damn near every other franchise is either remaking their original films, etc. There is a market for it, and it would succeed, maybe even more than a Freddy v. Jason sequal.

 

Speaking of that, has anyone gotten any followup on that 3 way dance with Myers, Jason, and Freddy beyond that small brief report? I havent heard anything else reported on it with the net lately.....

 

I am surprised if that does in fact happen, as the proposed FvJ sequal has gone through many changes already in a few years time. Plus the Halloween franchise is owned by Dimension Films, but with all of the changes within that company, as well as Akkad now RIP, maybe the franchise is going to work with New Line instead?

 

If I had a choice in the manner, I would much rather see a straight Freddy v. Jason sequal with no others involved, other than maybe Pinhead. Actually a Pinhead v. Myers film might not be so bad either.

[ChrisMWaters 0]

For those talking about a NOES Prequel...

 

Didn't they do that already on that TV show "hosted" by Krueger?

[RedJed 0]

For those talking about a NOES Prequel...

 

Didn't they do that already on that TV show "hosted" by Krueger?

 

Yup, it was an episode of Freddy's Nightmares, and actually was the pilot episode, IIRC. Another side tid-bit on that, I think it was directed by Tobe Hooper. Wasn't too bad but didnt give the backstory justice since it was done in 30-40 minutes time.

[daileyxplanet 0]

I like how JasonX was a blatant ripoff of one of the Leprechaun movies.