Failed Bridge 0 Report post Posted December 15, 2005 anybody else pick this up? I'm not done with my newly aquirred Seinfeld season 5 set (haven't started season 6) but I still picked it up since it was on sale for a little over $30. Marge Be Not Proud and Scenes from the Class Struggle in Springfield are the only two episodes I don't like from this season. Unfortunately this season is also the one where Guest Stars become the norm and play themselves (as is the case with Homerpalooza) oh, I also got the regular box and there were no Marge Head style sets to be seen in the store I got it from. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jericholic82 0 Report post Posted December 15, 2005 anybody else pick this up? I'm not done with my newly aquirred Seinfeld season 5 set (haven't started season 6) but I still picked it up since it was on sale for a little over $30. Marge Be Not Proud and Scenes from the Class Struggle in Springfield are the only two episodes I don't like from this season. Unfortunately this season is also the one where Guest Stars become the norm and play themselves (as is the case with Homerpalooza) oh, I also got the regular box and there were no Marge Head style sets to be seen in the store I got it from. yea I saw the "normal" box version at kmart Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted December 15, 2005 I got my copy today and was very glad they went with the alternative-style box too. Also, since it was on sale, I picked up Season 6 which I didn't do last September. Damn this box is ugly and unsturdy, plus I forgot how condescending they were about the "Oh you want a new box, do you?!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted December 15, 2005 They should be. It's a friggin' box, who cares. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted December 15, 2005 Even if you can ignore the inconsistency of the box stylings, there's still the problem with the shoddy quality and construction of the head boxes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the max 0 Report post Posted December 15, 2005 The fact that you open the head packaging and all of the papers and junk fall out is just shortsighted. Plus, with the arrogance that they have, we know that they know the market for these boxsets; Collectors. That just looks stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placebo Effect 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2005 Scenes From the Class Struggle in Springfield is probably my least favorite episode ever. It's not that it's not funny at points. It's just incredibly annoying, and I'd much rather watch anything from the past seven seasons than that again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2005 If you limit it to the prime seasons (3-8), my least favorite eps would be "Homer's Enemy" and "Lisa the Vegetarian", both on their own merits and for the dangerous trends they created (Lisa becoming annoyingly preachy and Homer becoming an ignorant asshole) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placebo Effect 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2005 If you limit it to the prime seasons (3-8), my least favorite eps would be "Homer's Enemy" and "Lisa the Vegetarian", both on their own merits and for the dangerous trends they created (Lisa becoming annoyingly preachy and Homer becoming an ignorant asshole) Ehhhh. I love Homer as the ignorant asshole. And Lisa's delivered some good stuff as well. Homer's Enemy is one of the best episodes ever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Leelee Report post Posted December 16, 2005 I also obtained this DVD set. Without an ugly box! Probably my favorite season. And, IMO, the last season before The Simpsons started running out of ideas... and got overly stupid for their own good. Plus, the constantly celebrity voices. With some of my favorites like Bart Selling His Soul, and King-Size Homer, and the 3D Treehouse of Horrors. Only Homerpalooza I didn't like... but, that's because it was targetted for an audience that I am not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nighthawk 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2005 I like Homerpalooza because Homer reminds me of my dad in that one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2005 How in the world can you not like Marge Be Not Proud? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aero 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2005 Scenes from Class Struggle in Springfield has one thing good going for it... Mr. Burns' cake at the end of the episode. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaosrage 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2005 If you limit it to the prime seasons (3-8), my least favorite eps would be "Homer's Enemy" and "Lisa the Vegetarian", both on their own merits and for the dangerous trends they created (Lisa becoming annoyingly preachy and Homer becoming an ignorant asshole) Are you kidding? Homer's Enemy is by far the best episode the Simpsons has ever done. Almost every line from it is funny and quotable. The downfall of the Simpsons was when the show became random. The last half of every episode would be about something completely different from the first half. The randomness wasn't funny, it was stupid and annoying. What season did that start? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Failed Bridge 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2005 How in the world can you not like Marge Be Not Proud? I've seen it far too many times now. It does have its good spots like "THRILLHO", The Lee Carvallo bits and the Camp Grenada bit. I do however hate the Don Brodka character in it. If my local Fox affiliate hadn't over-played it to no end then I'd probably still find it an ok episode, but definately not one I'd put at the top of my list. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2005 If you limit it to the prime seasons (3-8), my least favorite eps would be "Homer's Enemy" and "Lisa the Vegetarian", both on their own merits and for the dangerous trends they created (Lisa becoming annoyingly preachy and Homer becoming an ignorant asshole) Are you kidding? Homer's Enemy is by far the best episode the Simpsons has ever done. Almost every line from it is funny and quotable. The hell are you talking about? Even if it is "funny", it's a dark humor episode that isn't a quote machine at all. It didn't help that I could actually sympathize with Grimes' plight towards Homer, and on top of that it seemed like this was the episode where Homer began to cross the line from "good-natured dimwit" to "dimwitted asshole" (see: funeral scene) The warehouse subplot was pretty good, I'll admit, but hardly compensated for the main plot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Failed Bridge 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2005 Homer's Enemy was a pretty good episode but nothing special. The only thing that stands out in it is Grimes' final tyraid. The ending sucked. Homer saying "Marge...change the channel" and then Lenny saying "That's our Homer" while the rest of the people laugh hysterically was just plain stupid. I'll refrain from talking about Season 8 anymore though until that set comes out. It does have one of my favorite episodes ever in it though (You Only Move Twice) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2005 Well, at least I could still talk about "Lisa the Vegetarian" here As for Marge Be Not Proud, I like that episode. Especially now that I'm older, it made me think about times I had been really bad growing up (albeit not law-breaking like Bart) and the effects of those actions on the family. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mik 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2005 Yeah, I bought the Marge head. That one was nearly sold out while the alternative box was stacked to the brim. Guess this board isn't a representative sample. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Failed Bridge 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2005 that episode has some great spots in it. Like the Troy McLure video where he takes the little kid to the slaughter house, or the whole worm disecting part and Homer chasing after the pig as it rolls along; "Its just a little slimey...its still good, its still good!". When I grow up I'm going to Bovine University! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaosrage 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2005 The hell are you talking about? Even if it is "funny", it's a dark humor episode that isn't a quote machine at all. It didn't help that I could actually sympathize with Grimes' plight towards Homer, and on top of that it seemed like this was the episode where Homer began to cross the line from "good-natured dimwit" to "dimwitted asshole" (see: funeral scene) The warehouse subplot was pretty good, I'll admit, but hardly compensated for the main plot. What, the warehouse subplot was the only part that wasn't great. That was just setting up the "My son owns a factory" joke. Here's a few quotes I love from it. http://forums.thesmartmarks.com/index.php?...0entry1360620 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Failed Bridge 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2005 I can't say the quotes you listed in that link are anything that truly stands out. To most its a very average episode. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Amazing Rando 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2005 "Yeah, I saw the whole thing. First it started to fall over....then it fell over." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2005 I hate the Frank Grimes episode. Grimes was a good guy. He had a hard life but overcame it with hard work. The episode basically says that Homer is a bad person with no redeeming qualities. So I am supposed to be happy that in the end Grimes dies essentially because of Homer Simpson and that Homer doesn't give enough of a damn to stay awake at his funeral? A very dark episode that took the heart out of the show, in my opinion. Homerpalooza, while not a bad episode in its own right, was very destructive, imo to the overall show. They started existing in the "real world" and there was a focus on trying to be "cool" and "hip" and with the times. Part of the charm of the simpsons was that it was timeless. You could watch an episode from 1992 and not tell that it was from 1992. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2005 Megadittos, Rudo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jericholic82 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2005 I agree on the Grimes ep. He was good guy and I did feel sorry for him. But Homer seemed to really want to be friendly to him, he was just too stupid to realize why Grimes didnt like him. I really liekd when Homer won the childs model palnt building constest and grimes protested and laughed at him for being in a childs contest and then Lenny said "Yea,and Homer beat their brains in" I always foudn that part funny . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Amazing Rando 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2005 I hate the Frank Grimes episode. Grimes was a good guy. He had a hard life but overcame it with hard work. The episode basically says that Homer is a bad person with no redeeming qualities. So I am supposed to be happy that in the end Grimes dies essentially because of Homer Simpson and that Homer doesn't give enough of a damn to stay awake at his funeral? A very dark episode that took the heart out of the show, in my opinion. Homerpalooza, while not a bad episode in its own right, was very destructive, imo to the overall show. They started existing in the "real world" and there was a focus on trying to be "cool" and "hip" and with the times. Part of the charm of the simpsons was that it was timeless. You could watch an episode from 1992 and not tell that it was from 1992. 1. Homer's Enemy really did showcase alot of what was wrong with Homer Simpson's personality and included some of the bizarre almost meta-references of him going to space, winning a Grammy, meeting presidents, and other such things that a man of his qualities should have never had happen, but at the same time Frank Grimes is SO over the top playing a "please love me" character that they nearly cancel out with Grimes being his own downfall. Grimes tried so hard for recognition that it killed him when he finally snapped, while the episode makes Homer out to be uncaring towards the guy, why would Homer care about him in the first place? It's not Homer's fault that he got to meet presidents and had the opportunity to go to space or even win a Grammy. Homer's life has been quite "right place, right time" including him getting a job at the plant, while Grimes has had the opposite. Hell, Grimes gets pissed cause Homer was eating lobsters (that he bought just for that occasion) and that Bart owned a factory (didn't he buy it for like 3 bucks?) when, had Grimes NOT flipped out and took a better look, he would have found out that he bought them just for the dinner and that the factory was a piece of shit empty warehouse. Blame everything you want on Homer, but Frank Grimes lost his mind in that emotional explosion at the end, and it led to his demise. It was very much a "right place, right time" vs. "wrong place, wrong time" episode. And Homer does have redeeming qualities, as seen in episodes like Lisa's Pony, Lisa The Vegetarian, Homer vs. Lisa And The 8th Commandment, Saturdays Of Thunder, Hurricanne Neddy, When Flanders Failed, etc. Sometimes it takes some big shit to go down and some hard judgment on his part to get to the redemption, but he's made it there. Grimes simply went from being a hard-luck character to being an attention whore in the span of the 22 minute episode, whereas Homer's line at the end of the episode (and "whatever happened to that guy?" remark in a later episode) that Homer is the community's comic relief, and has been for so long that nobody even questions it anymore, and when someone DOES question it, they seem almost stupid. 2. What about episodes like Lisa The Greek that showcase a Super Bowl, regardless of how they edit it? There are a few episodes that put them in the real world that came long before that one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2005 Homer does have redeeming qualities, as seen in episodes like Lisa's Pony, Lisa The Vegetarian, Homer vs. Lisa And The 8th Commandment, Saturdays Of Thunder, Hurricanne Neddy, When Flanders Failed, etc. Sometimes it takes some big shit to go down and some hard judgment on his part to get to the redemption, but he's made it there. Notice that all the episodes you mentioned are older than "Homer's Enemy" While he did have some redeeming episodes after this, I stand by my opinion that this was the episode where Homer's character began to shift for the worse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2005 Homer wanted Frank to like him, not because he liked Frank, but because he hated being disliked. There is this disconnect between Homer and the world around him -even with his family- that shows this utter lack of the humanity in the character. There is no heart. It is all ego. Homer didn't have to cry at Frank Grimes' funeral, but to fall asleep? You can't justify that. There is no good in that. There is no heart in that. Homer is a bad person as a result of it. Grimes saw right through what Homer was doing, and his insanity came from the fact that no one else did. Yes, the Simpsons have dabbled in the "real world" before, Homer at Bat was one of their best episodes ever and they used real world baseball players. But it was never in a stylistic way. It wasn't trendy. Now everything the Simpsons does is trendy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nighthawk 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2005 I'll go on record as saying that the Simpsons now is much, much better than they were a few years ago. Not back to their peak, but there was a definite slump that they came out of there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites