NFL Week XVI

[razazteca 0]

2 TDs for Vrable and 1 TD for Dillion

 

21-7

[Cartman 0]

Man, if Bruschi is done so is this team

 

I mean yea they are still really good right now but he is the heart of the Defense without Harrison out there.

 

Not to mention he owns Manning.

Edited December 27, 2005 by Cartman

[Art Sandusky 0]

I just have a hard time imagining someone else as the quarterback on a snowy, bitterly cold Sunday afternoon. Not yet anyway. I said before the season and will say again: at the end of last year he had about two years left, and now one more. Fortunately, he's doing virtually everything wrong, so he's got plenty of stuff to work on over the off-season. The problems with simply having players that can run and catch hasn't helped much either. Give him this current team in 1997 and watch them make the playoffs. They wouldn't make the Super Bowl and probably not even out of the first round, but they'd be a wild card. One player can only do so much. Look at Michael Vick.

 

STILL: He's eroded a good bit, but not so much that he can't still take a team into the postseason and possibly deep into it with a corps of very able receivers and a running game that can get 100 yards plus on a consistent basis. Besides, he's only a participant in one segment of the game. Ryan Longwell has squandered an assload of Packer drives after he seemed to be better than ever last year. He missed a couple just last night that could have been huge. And the defense would be pretty damned responsible for an embarassing 48-3 loss, don't you think? When you're trailing or just had a big turnover, the defense is responsible for damage control.

 

It's perception and reality. Favre's not the superman he was, but he's still a scrappy tough old dude that's gonna be game for whatever and can't be counted out, especially if his friends are backing him up.

[Guest Vitamin X]

I'd still count him among the top 10 quarterbacks in the league, which makes him great, but not among the elite. I'd say Carson Palmer and even Drew Brees have moved up past him.

 

The newspaper article Arnold posted earlier did make a lot of sense in many aspects. Favre's arm will still be incredible no matter what age, but his accuracy is starting to slip, not like it was ever that great to begin with. He's taking way too many chances with receivers who can't make grabs, which is great when he's throwing to Walker and Driver, but I've counted at least a few interceptions that have gone Robert Ferguson's way and he wasn't able to get the ball. That's not necessarily Ferguson's fault; Favre needs to adjust to who he has on the field and who they're matched up against. He's been making the "WTF?!" throws his whole career, but he's been making more of them this year and last. The high interception total could be blamed on him trying to do too much.. which was definitely the case in years like `99, 2000.. he really needs a stable running game, otherwise his INTs skyrocket. Unless he has a huge game against his old mentor's team on Sunday, he'll finish with more interceptions than touchdowns in over a decade. He still has maybe a year or two left, and it'd be hard to see him go, but I'm willing to take whatever we can right now.

[nl5xsk1 0]

Man, if Bruschi is done so is this team

I disagree. They could just switch to a 4-3, with Vrabel in the middle & McGinest & Colvin on the outside. I don't really credit the defensive resurgence entirely on Bruschi's return. Seymour coming back & Vrabel moving to the middle (allowing Colvin to play substantially more snaps) did as much as Bruschi's return.

[CanadianChris 0]

Then between New York and Tampa, they'd be even on conference record and common opponents, so it goes down to "strength of victory" which means that if the Giants lose by less than about 30, they're the 5 seed.

Strength of victory means opponents' winning percentage, not net points.