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Wrestlemania 22...possibly one of the worse Wrestlemania's ever???

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What about Edge's MITB contract? Are they gonna let him cash that title shot in, or have they forgotten?

 

I say they have Cena vs. HHH mid-way through WrestleMania. Cena wins but gets his ass kicked ... Edge comes out after the match and demands an immediate title shot. Edge leaves with the belt.

 

 

 

That's exactly what I'm thinking.

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It's too early to talk about the WrestleMania card at this point. The RAW main event alone could be any combo of Cena/HBK/Angle/Hunter/Hogan and maybe Edge (only because of MITB) and RVD (doubtful) at this point, and we don't even know who will be a face or heel (Cena especially). None of those matches really interest me that much though. And none of the possible RAW/Smackdown brand matches seem like they would be especially exciting either. It will probably end up being below average but who knows at this point.

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Edge beating a tired and worn out champion right after said champion's defense/win would totally suck and would kill everything they've been building Edge up to for what seems like forever now.

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Why would they do that? Face vs. heel to face vs. heel with less heat? That's ridonkulous.

 

Edge coming down and playing around with an already worn-out Cena and then crushing him to win the title in a cheap fashion would get less heel heat? The fans would be out for blood.

 

Problem is that if Cena keeps the title then HHH is going to be face in that match regardless of what he says or does. And Edge taking HHH's title after he beats Cena is not something I see happening.

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Why would they do that? Face vs. heel to face vs. heel with less heat? That's ridonkulous.

 

Edge coming down and playing around with an already worn-out Cena and then crushing him to win the title in a cheap fashion would get less heel heat? The fans would be out for blood.

 

1. It's Cena.

 

2. It's Edge.

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Cena at least has the childrens, thugs and ladies behind him. I can't think of any support Edge gets these days, aside from psuedo-smarks. And I say pseudo because it's fun and because no true smark could find themself liking Edge.

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Guest Leelee

Didn't Bischoff say way back in April or May that Edge couldn't demand the immediate title shot... or something to that effect? Of course, WWE can easily ignore this... but, whatever.

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the match as of now is Cena against the Hulkster-that was the agreement Hogan made with Vince that if he went over HBK at SS then he would have to face Cena at mania-

 

but, if Cena continues to lose popularity the match will be switched probably to HHH and Cena- and Hogan either wrestling Austin if it gets worked out or Big show, Angle.

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Well, my friend Ian at least is an Edge Head. And yeah, he's a pseudo smark.

 

The one match I absolutely do not want to see is Vince/Shawn. Cena/HHH? Fine, at this point just get it off of Cena. Orton/Batista? Meh. But at least they've wanted to push Orton for a while. But who in their right mind wants to see Vince wrestle again at age 60? What kind of way to sell the biggest PPV of the year is THAT? Especially against Shawn Michaels, a guy who is hardly the nostalgia type act Hogan was when he wrestled Vince at WM 19. Shawn could have another brilliant match with Angle on the show, or he could face RVD, or someone from Smackdown in an interpromotional match. I can see Vince forming a heel faction and throwing guys at Shawn, but keep him out of the ring.

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What if they use the MITB shot right after the elimination chamber on sunday?

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They should just stick Hogan in a tag match instead of letting Hogan fulfill his ego by giving him a main event caliber singles match.

 

That way he doesn't have carry the workload, he can get the hot-tag pop and go over and doesn't have waste some-one like Angle.

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I don't see what the big aversion is to doing a sneak attack MITB shot. As long as Edge goes over the former champ relatively clean in a rematch, it should be fine. I like the idea of him getting desperate knowing that his time's running out, then sneak attacking the WWE title winner at Mania. It's not the ME, and it'd be something different than the old "face overcomes the odds and takes down evil heel champ" routine. For the traditionalists, you could still do that on SD.

 

And, seriously, Edge wouldn't be that bad for title run. He's good on the mic, and decent in the ring. When he's in there with someone good, he's very carryable. If you let it go until Summer Slam, Cena will be over enough to be a face again, and can take it off Edge decisively. Or you could give it to HHH, or even Michaels if you wanted.

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Any ideas for a reason Foley and Hogan would feud? I needf storyline backup. So, that begs the question, Why do I still watch? 3 cheers for habit BABY!!!~

 

Foley would be the heel here. He could cut his standard smart promos and point out Hogan's ego (something WWE has no problem talking about) and how Hogan was a selfish performer while Foley will put himself over as the ultimate professional who gave everything he had for the fans (whom didn't appreciate his efforts until he put a sock on his hand). Foley would be smart enough to come across as a bitter jerk because Hogan can't be a heel here.

 

Hogan counters by saying Foley used his success in the business to pursue fame and money outside just as much as Hogan did.

 

WWE loves to do shooty type angles(Matt/Edge and Shawn/Hogan for recent examples), this would be nothing but shoot-filled goodness. Foley could carry the program in promos alone if he is motivated and for a WM payoff against a name like Hogan? He'll bring his game.

 

As for the match? it'd be a train-wreck but Foley will go into Shawn mode, and completely over-sell everything.

 

I still believe Hogan would be better off against Orton and Foley against Edge.

For some reason I'd like to see Cactus Jack invade the Hogan home to get inside Hogan's head.

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I keep trying to tell you guys: There is NO plan for Edge to do any of this shit. He's not going to run in after the Chamber match. He's not running in with the MITB at WM. He'll just use it at the Rumble and job quietly and that's the last we'll hear of it, unless he pleads with Vince or the new GM to have another MITB match at WM.

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I keep trying to tell you guys: There is NO plan for Edge to do any of this shit. He's not going to run in after the Chamber match. He's not running in with the MITB at WM. He'll just use it at the Rumble and job quietly and that's the last we'll hear of it, unless he pleads with Vince or the new GM to have another MITB match at WM.

 

I'm still waiting for Lita to get pissed off at Edge during a lover's spat and take the contract and cash it herself and steal the title shot (they can make up some stupid wwe-ized logic for how Lita could do that).

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What about the cruiserweight title at mania?

 

Another LAME 9 minute battle royal with;

 

* Kid Kash

* Funaki

* Scotty 2 Hotty

* Jamie Knoble

* Gregory Helms

* Brian Kendrik

* Paul London

* Chavo Guerrero

* Daivari

* Super Crazy

* Psychosis

 

Am I forgetting someone?

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What about the cruiserweight title at mania?

 

Another LAME 9 minute battle royal with;

 

* Kid Kash

* Funaki

* Scotty 2 Hotty

* Jamie Knoble

* Gregory Helms

* Brian Kendrik

* Paul London

* Chavo Guerrero

* Daivari

* Super Crazy

* Psychosis

 

Am I forgetting someone?

 

Davari doesn't look like a cruiser considering how he has added mass and is Angle's flunky.

 

Chavo's on Raw and I don't think they want to bring him back into the CW ranks right now, even if for one night and they refuse to put Helms in the CW.

 

I have a feeling Mexi-Cools will be involved with MnM for the tag titles, keeping them busy. London/Kendrick aren't getting pushes which means Knoble/Kash for the title would be the best bet. Knoble is a master at those 5-8 minute matches within the WWE style.

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I wouldn't have any problem with Edge coming out later in the night to destroy the face Cena. Hell, if Edge did it that way it would pretty much be fitting for his character over the past year or so. It would be a cowardly heel tactic, and they could build it up that it was the only way that Edge was finally able to rise to the top. As time goes by, they could continue to say how much of a coward and cheat he is for getting the title the way he did, but all along the way, as champion, he proves himself worthy...and possibly even gets turned face.

 

I'm not a huge fan of the guy, although I'm coming around, but I do think he could be huge.

 

I'd rather see a Foley/Flair match than a Foley/Hogan match. I don't see a problem with Hogan on the show either. Some people would buy a WM just to see him work the card yet again.

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instead of starting a new thread about WM and what we think/hope to see, I decided to just bump this one...

 

WMXXII

WWE Tag Team Titles

2/3 Falls

Mexi-Cools Vs MnM

 

*This should be a fun match as M.C are pretty over and MnM has the classic heel tag team science down pat now and I would argue they have been the most complete tag team in WWE since the TLC trio of E&C, Hardy and Dudley Boyz. Some may argue, WGTT, but while WGTT might have been a better collection of talent, MnM has been a better team and has gotten more of a credible push, mainly because of Melina.

 

Mexi-Cools seemed like a joke initially but they really have proven to be a successful and over face team for SmackDown. Unless they decide to do a dual-champions match with Raw’s champions, Mexi-Cools are the best choice for Mania against MnM. The Royal Rumble match-up should be won by Mexi-Cools by DQ or count-out to build for the re-match at No Way Out where MnM cheat to win this time, establishing that Mexi-Cools had beaten them twice already, the match would be a 2/3 falls match, also just gives this match an extra spice to it and because it’s been awhile since WWE has done a 2/3 falls tag team match.

 

I would kick the show off with this because it should be a hot match and wouldn’t be a clunker which would hurt the momentum of the show. MnM should be in their biggest glamour attitude yet, take their regular entrance and expand it to a larger and more “big” stage. MnM could go over here and extend their reign but I’d rather see Mexi-Cools win it for the feel good pop and it’d allow the feud to stretch out for another month or two*

 

 

Woman’s Title

Trish Stratus Vs Mickie James

 

*The storylines on Raw have been, to say the least, disjointed but the Mickie and Trish storyline has been effective enough that it still works, even if it has gone as far to include Ashley into it. Hopefully that’s merely a bump in this feud.

 

I would have Trish offer a complimentary title shot against Ashley at the Rumble as an apology for Mickie’s antics. However, Candice as a way to be devious and bitchy, talks Vince into letting Mickie be the guest referee for the match and Mickie of course, initially protests this as does Trish but Mickie actually really wanted to be the referee. One way or another, Trish wins the match and retains her title thanks to Mickie.

 

If they wanted to, Trish could turn heel here and that would alter the storyline very little and I doubt the fans really want to boo Trish right now since she either works in this current character or the intelligent, promiscuous bitch (and Lita is fulfilling 2/3 of that character description right now) so keeping Trish as the face would be better for now. Trish going over Mickie to definitively ends the feud or have Mickie “upset” Trish works. *

 

CW Title

KASH Vs Noble

*Rather simple, Kash has been an excellent heel champion and Noble is an excellent baby-face. Instead of going for the usual gauntlet/battle royal or just ignoring it completely, I’d have a straight up singles match for the title. I would have Noble go on a winning streak and have Kash completely refuse to give him the title shot. Kash is an excellent asshole heel and Noble should be able to get the crowd into it. Ideally, the match would go 15 minutes but if there’s anyone who can truncate 15 minutes into 6 minutes of good wrestling, it is Jamie “By God” Noble. *

 

 

US Title

Booker T Vs Lashley

 

*I am not clear on the status of Booker T for the moment, but assuming that he is healed up and can start actively wrestling; He should remain the US champion. Lashley is currently being built up and while I don’t want to compare him to Goldberg because the comparison isn’t really there besides the obvious size similarity, Lashley has been somewhat “dominant” but still hasn’t had a definable “feud”, something else similar to Goldberg when he first started in WCW. Lashley should be named #1 contender simply for being dominant. Lashley should squash Booker T here though but not brutally. *

 

 

Money in the Bank

RVD, Benjamin, Haas, Guerrero, Mysterio, Hardy, JBL and Daivari

 

*MITB was a success last year in terms of the match itself and how it gave Edge an identity for once and was able to use it to win the title. Last year, Jericho was credited for creating the match and this year, I would expand the match towards both brands and add two more spots. The idea is that the winner “receives the automatic guarantee of a shot at their respective brand’s title, good for an entire year” Meaning they can save themselves in the possibility the winner gets traded, they get a title shot regardless of which brand it is they are on. Benjamin, RVD, Hardy, Daivari and Mysterio are obvious choices and with Chavo’s recent mini-push to capitalize on Eddie’s death, he wouldn’t be out of place in a ladder match. As for Charlie Haas, we don’t know when he’s coming back but I would assume sooner then later and regardless if he teams with or against Benjamin upon his return, he’s a fit for this match as well. Last year, Kane didn’t quite fit in with the other wrestlers in the match, so JBL can play that "big man" role as he is a good brawler and he would add an interesting presence to the match. *

 

IC Title

Flair Vs Masters w/Carlito

 

*We all know WWE still has a hard-on for Masters despite having yet to show anything remotely bordering on actual heat. The IC title actually still exists and Ric Flair claims ownership of the title. WWE obviously will want to use Masters on some relative high point for the show, pairing him with Flair isn’t out of the question. The ideal thing would be putting Carlito as his second. Carlito can carry the promo end of the feud, (Shawn/Diesel ’94). Flair would bump and bleed most likely all over the place to make Masters look good. Masters is hardly the ideal champion or wrestler, or even human being but in the case of being realistic, this match isn’t far-fetched. *

 

World Tag Team Titles

Cena/Hogan Vs Kane/The Big Show

 

*They have to use Hogan, and Hogan is getting paid more money then anyone else will be. They lost their Austin/Hogan shot and Hogan isn’t going to reduce himself to a nothing spot on the card, even though I’m sure he would just as well collect the paycheck and do another skit like last year, this time I would imagine WWE would like to promote a Hogan match for the show.

 

Hogan’s list of demands includes Cena, Angle and Show. This gives him 2 of those guys. He already has established a partnership with Cena from last year, so it’s not as randomly as it may seem. TBS/Kane is being built (or was) as dominant champions and currently, WWE has nothing to combat with it. Why not just set up this “major” tag match between 4 former WWE champions?

 

This saves them from blowing the Cena/Hogan match, where it can be used to push another show for another big buy-rate. This match would hardly be a classic technical match but the crowd should be interesting.*

 

Undertaker Vs Benoit

*This is really just hopeful smark sentiment here but this would be the perfect opportunity to give Undertaker that true quality match that he lacks in his 13-0 streak (whilst his work with Orton, Flair and HHH weren’t shoddy, they weren’t special either). If they aren’t doing Undertaker/Angle for the title, this is the next best option. I’m not sure how you set this up, maybe in the rumble, UT comes out and dominates and people clear out and Benoit is the only person to stand UT in the face? Who knows how you set this match up but Undertaker/Benoit works 100x’s better then Undertaker/Henry would (this is the match, I feel will actually occur). *

 

World Title

Angle Vs Orton

*It’s a joke that Orton would even be a main event name for Mania considering he’s been nothing but a joke for awhile now on Smackdown but when the roster is depleted of its stars thanks to death, injuries, unbreakable streaks and the company’s lack of trust in men shorter then 6’, Orton is basically the only guy left standing for Angle. Maybe it’s not too late and they can have Shawn win the rumble and he chooses Smackdown to get back at Angle and they can do the blow-off for good there but a re-match isn’t necessary…but its better then Orton getting an undeserved WM main event spot. *

 

WWE Title

Triple H Vs Edge Vs Shawn Michaels

*I really just don’t want to see HBK/McMahon at WM. It would be tremendously worthless, I don’t know if this match would work either. If they do Triple H/Edge straight up, Trips is turning face. Edge doesn’t work as a face and shouldn’t be a face anyways. Shawn’s presence really has no purpose here, kind of like WMXX when he injected himself into it. I’d much rather see Triple H/Edge one on one and to see Shawn work Angle…

 

But we’re going to have Shawn/McMahon no matter how much we wish against it.

 

Maybe this isn’t the best possible card for Mania…

 

Mexi-Cools/MNM (2/3 Falls WWE Tag Titles)

Trish/Mickie (Woman’s Title)

Noble/Kash (CW Title)

Booker/Lashley (US Title)

RVD/Benjamin/Haas/Guerrero/Rey/Hardy/Daivari/JBL (MITB)

Masters/Flair (IC Title)

Undertaker/Benoit

Hogan + Cena/ TBS + Kane (world tag titles)

Angle/Orton (world title)

Michaels/Edge/Triple H (WWE Title)

 

But considering the actual card would likely be

Angle/Orton

Triple H/Edge

McMahon/HBK

Cena/Hogan

Undertaker/Henry

TBS/Kane Vs Masters/Carlito

Add random mid-card madness.

 

the first card looks more appealing, to me at least

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I refuse to believe that HHH/Edge will be the main event to Wrestlemania. I mean that's just terrible. If they want HHH in the main event that bad, they'd be better off just letting him win the title on Raw, and then running HHH/RVD as their main event. Hell, HHH/Flair would be better than HHH/Edge.

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Edge vs. HHH as the main event? UH!!!

 

Cena should have just turned heel with the belt and faced Hogan at Mania, but what do I know.

 

Vince/HBK is even worse. They really got some kind of hate for Chicago and Manias there eh? 2 at least had the battle royal(NFL) and The Bulldogs winning the titles.

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instead of starting a new thread about WM and what we think/hope to see, I decided to just bump this one...

 

WMXXII

WWE Tag Team Titles

2/3 Falls

Mexi-Cools Vs MnM

 

*This should be a fun match as M.C are pretty over and MnM has the classic heel tag team science down pat now and I would argue they have been the most complete tag team in WWE since the TLC trio of E&C, Hardy and Dudley Boyz. Some may argue, WGTT, but while WGTT might have been a better collection of talent, MnM has been a better team and has gotten more of a credible push, mainly because of Melina.

 

Mexi-Cools seemed like a joke initially but they really have proven to be a successful and over face team for SmackDown. Unless they decide to do a dual-champions match with Raw’s champions, Mexi-Cools are the best choice for Mania against MnM. The Royal Rumble match-up should be won by Mexi-Cools by DQ or count-out to build for the re-match at No Way Out where MnM cheat to win this time, establishing that Mexi-Cools had beaten them twice already, the match would be a 2/3 falls match, also just gives this match an extra spice to it and because it’s been awhile since WWE has done a 2/3 falls tag team match.

 

I would kick the show off with this because it should be a hot match and wouldn’t be a clunker which would hurt the momentum of the show. MnM should be in their biggest glamour attitude yet, take their regular entrance and expand it to a larger and more “big” stage. MnM could go over here and extend their reign but I’d rather see Mexi-Cools win it for the feel good pop and it’d allow the feud to stretch out for another month or two*

 

 

Woman’s Title

Trish Stratus Vs Mickie James

 

*The storylines on Raw have been, to say the least, disjointed but the Mickie and Trish storyline has been effective enough that it still works, even if it has gone as far to include Ashley into it. Hopefully that’s merely a bump in this feud.

 

I would have Trish offer a complimentary title shot against Ashley at the Rumble as an apology for Mickie’s antics. However, Candice as a way to be devious and bitchy, talks Vince into letting Mickie be the guest referee for the match and Mickie of course, initially protests this as does Trish but Mickie actually really wanted to be the referee. One way or another, Trish wins the match and retains her title thanks to Mickie.

 

If they wanted to, Trish could turn heel here and that would alter the storyline very little and I doubt the fans really want to boo Trish right now since she either works in this current character or the intelligent, promiscuous bitch (and Lita is fulfilling 2/3 of that character description right now) so keeping Trish as the face would be better for now. Trish going over Mickie to definitively ends the feud or have Mickie “upset” Trish works. *

 

CW Title

KASH Vs Noble

*Rather simple, Kash has been an excellent heel champion and Noble is an excellent baby-face. Instead of going for the usual gauntlet/battle royal or just ignoring it completely, I’d have a straight up singles match for the title. I would have Noble go on a winning streak and have Kash completely refuse to give him the title shot. Kash is an excellent asshole heel and Noble should be able to get the crowd into it. Ideally, the match would go 15 minutes but if there’s anyone who can truncate 15 minutes into 6 minutes of good wrestling, it is Jamie “By God” Noble. *

 

 

US Title

Booker T Vs Lashley

 

*I am not clear on the status of Booker T for the moment, but assuming that he is healed up and can start actively wrestling; He should remain the US champion. Lashley is currently being built up and while I don’t want to compare him to Goldberg because the comparison isn’t really there besides the obvious size similarity, Lashley has been somewhat “dominant” but still hasn’t had a definable “feud”, something else similar to Goldberg when he first started in WCW. Lashley should be named #1 contender simply for being dominant. Lashley should squash Booker T here though but not brutally. *

 

 

Money in the Bank

RVD, Benjamin, Haas, Guerrero, Mysterio, Hardy, JBL and Daivari

 

*MITB was a success last year in terms of the match itself and how it gave Edge an identity for once and was able to use it to win the title. Last year, Jericho was credited for creating the match and this year, I would expand the match towards both brands and add two more spots. The idea is that the winner “receives the automatic guarantee of a shot at their respective brand’s title, good for an entire year” Meaning they can save themselves in the possibility the winner gets traded, they get a title shot regardless of which brand it is they are on. Benjamin, RVD, Hardy, Daivari and Mysterio are obvious choices and with Chavo’s recent mini-push to capitalize on Eddie’s death, he wouldn’t be out of place in a ladder match. As for Charlie Haas, we don’t know when he’s coming back but I would assume sooner then later and regardless if he teams with or against Benjamin upon his return, he’s a fit for this match as well. Last year, Kane didn’t quite fit in with the other wrestlers in the match, so JBL can play that "big man" role as he is a good brawler and he would add an interesting presence to the match. *

 

IC Title

Flair Vs Masters w/Carlito

 

*We all know WWE still has a hard-on for Masters despite having yet to show anything remotely bordering on actual heat. The IC title actually still exists and Ric Flair claims ownership of the title. WWE obviously will want to use Masters on some relative high point for the show, pairing him with Flair isn’t out of the question. The ideal thing would be putting Carlito as his second. Carlito can carry the promo end of the feud, (Shawn/Diesel ’94). Flair would bump and bleed most likely all over the place to make Masters look good. Masters is hardly the ideal champion or wrestler, or even human being but in the case of being realistic, this match isn’t far-fetched. *

 

World Tag Team Titles

Cena/Hogan Vs Kane/The Big Show

 

*They have to use Hogan, and Hogan is getting paid more money then anyone else will be. They lost their Austin/Hogan shot and Hogan isn’t going to reduce himself to a nothing spot on the card, even though I’m sure he would just as well collect the paycheck and do another skit like last year, this time I would imagine WWE would like to promote a Hogan match for the show.

 

Hogan’s list of demands includes Cena, Angle and Show. This gives him 2 of those guys. He already has established a partnership with Cena from last year, so it’s not as randomly as it may seem. TBS/Kane is being built (or was) as dominant champions and currently, WWE has nothing to combat with it. Why not just set up this “major” tag match between 4 former WWE champions?

 

This saves them from blowing the Cena/Hogan match, where it can be used to push another show for another big buy-rate. This match would hardly be a classic technical match but the crowd should be interesting.*

 

Undertaker Vs Benoit

*This is really just hopeful smark sentiment here but this would be the perfect opportunity to give Undertaker that true quality match that he lacks in his 13-0 streak (whilst his work with Orton, Flair and HHH weren’t shoddy, they weren’t special either). If they aren’t doing Undertaker/Angle for the title, this is the next best option. I’m not sure how you set this up, maybe in the rumble, UT comes out and dominates and people clear out and Benoit is the only person to stand UT in the face? Who knows how you set this match up but Undertaker/Benoit works 100x’s better then Undertaker/Henry would (this is the match, I feel will actually occur). *

 

World Title

Angle Vs Orton

*It’s a joke that Orton would even be a main event name for Mania considering he’s been nothing but a joke for awhile now on Smackdown but when the roster is depleted of its stars thanks to death, injuries, unbreakable streaks and the company’s lack of trust in men shorter then 6’, Orton is basically the only guy left standing for Angle. Maybe it’s not too late and they can have Shawn win the rumble and he chooses Smackdown to get back at Angle and they can do the blow-off for good there but a re-match isn’t necessary…but its better then Orton getting an undeserved WM main event spot. *

 

WWE Title

Triple H Vs Edge Vs Shawn Michaels

*I really just don’t want to see HBK/McMahon at WM. It would be tremendously worthless, I don’t know if this match would work either. If they do Triple H/Edge straight up, Trips is turning face. Edge doesn’t work as a face and shouldn’t be a face anyways. Shawn’s presence really has no purpose here, kind of like WMXX when he injected himself into it. I’d much rather see Triple H/Edge one on one and to see Shawn work Angle…

 

But we’re going to have Shawn/McMahon no matter how much we wish against it.

 

Maybe this isn’t the best possible card for Mania…

 

Mexi-Cools/MNM (2/3 Falls WWE Tag Titles)

Trish/Mickie (Woman’s Title)

Noble/Kash (CW Title)

Booker/Lashley (US Title)

RVD/Benjamin/Haas/Guerrero/Rey/Hardy/Daivari/JBL (MITB)

Masters/Flair (IC Title)

Undertaker/Benoit

Hogan + Cena/ TBS + Kane (world tag titles)

Angle/Orton (world title)

Michaels/Edge/Triple H (WWE Title)

I wouldn't buy it. That's not a Wrestlemania card, and I'm sure as fuck not plunking down 50 dollars for that. It would be a very nice Survivor Series card though. But Mania needs to be special. And Edge sticks out like a sore thumb in that match and Orton is awful, so the two title matches are a no for me, and I doubt even more so for a casual fan. Which means the undercard needs to be appealing, and Hulk Hogan needs a big time one on one match. The number one contender's ladder match has THREE low card wrestlers in it (Chavo, Daivari, Hardy) possibly four with Haas in it. Maybe they can build up Haas, so that's not as bad. But people really need to let go of this Chavo thing. The people don't care about Chavo. They didn't care about him for the year and a half before Eddie died, and they don't care now. Chanting for his dead uncle is not the same as genuinely caring about the man. Hardy is a Velocity regular now, and Daivari has no business in a number one contender's match.

 

The fans at this point just don't care enough about Masters or Lashley to want to see them hold the number two belt, or more importantly, pay to see that.

 

The tag title match, Women's title match and Benoit/Taker match are, however, the foundations of a good Mania card.

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I keep trying to tell you guys: There is NO plan for Edge to do any of this shit. He's not going to run in after the Chamber match. He's not running in with the MITB at WM. He'll just use it at the Rumble and job quietly and that's the last we'll hear of it, unless he pleads with Vince or the new GM to have another MITB match at WM.

 

D'oh- although to be fair I didn't see it coming either!

 

I really like the proposed WM22 card though, on a slight aside, didn't someone report just after Summerslam that if Jericho was going to return, he would do so at the Rumble, maybe he'll get into WM somehow or maybe that's just my wishful thinking.....

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