JasonX Posted January 15, 2006 Report Posted January 15, 2006 So in the week since the "Kurt Angle wins the SD tile" spoilers hit, any news on what the fuck his status is regarding the roster split? Given how popular he is and how there was a huge improvement on Raw when he got drafted to the show last spring, can we hope and pray that Vince is giving Kurt the same sort of "floater" status ala Rock in regards to Kurt being able to go back and forth between shows as he pleases regardless of being the SD champ? Or has he been permenantly exiled back to the ghetto that is Smackdown, for the crime of ruining John Cena's run as champ and forcing Vince to give the little shit Edge the belt?
Kurt Angle Mark Posted January 15, 2006 Report Posted January 15, 2006 I don't know how been sent to the better show is a punishment
2GOLD Posted January 15, 2006 Report Posted January 15, 2006 The show needed a veteran talent or someone who has been ready for a run with the belt. The choices were either Angle or...well Angle. RAW got the weak ass triple bogey champ and SMACKDOWN got the double bogey champion.
Fökai Posted January 15, 2006 Report Posted January 15, 2006 He's jumping to Smackdown, as a face. That's all that's been announced for now, considering that it's only a day after his televised victory and we haven't seen any television shows since then. Calm down for now. Everything else is up in the air as of the day of this past Tuesday. That includes booking the Rumble and Mania.
The Tino Standard Posted January 15, 2006 Report Posted January 15, 2006 Considering that WWE.com is still hyping the Shawn Michaels-Kurt Angle match for this coming Monday (even noting that Angle won Smackdown's title), I wouldn't go so far as to say he's completely done with Raw. Hell, I don't even think the writers know what his status is, so how should we?
Enigma Posted January 15, 2006 Report Posted January 15, 2006 PWInsider is saying that Angle's heading back to Smackdown and his match against HBK on Raw will be his last Raw appearance.
Jericho2000Mark Posted January 15, 2006 Report Posted January 15, 2006 He's jumping to Smackdown, as a face. I hope this doesn't mean we get Angle-Orton at Mania, not that I don't think Angle can carry him, but I can't possibly think of a less appealing Main Event(well, maybe I can). Besides, once WWE gives Angle the neutered face treatment, they'll be forced to turn him back anyway.
JasonX Posted January 15, 2006 Author Report Posted January 15, 2006 PWInsider is saying that Angle's heading back to Smackdown and his match against HBK on Raw will be his last Raw appearance. If that's true, fuck the WWE and fuck Raw since if Kurt Angle isn't on Raw, I have ZERO reason to watch Raw anymore.....
Guest Boobie Posted January 15, 2006 Report Posted January 15, 2006 He's jumping to Smackdown, as a face. I hope this doesn't mean we get Angle-Orton at Mania, not that I don't think Angle can carry him, but I can't possibly think of a less appealing Main Event(well, maybe I can). Besides, once WWE gives Angle the neutered face treatment, they'll be forced to turn him back anyway. Angle v.s. Marc Henry.
Guest Dam(o)nYankees Posted January 15, 2006 Report Posted January 15, 2006 I don't know how excited I am about a permanent return to Smackdown for Angle. After he gets through the Henry program, all he has left that is remotely interesting is Taker, Rey and Benoit, two of which will be used for No Way Out and Mania. Hopefully after he loses the belt he heads back to Raw.
Just John Posted January 15, 2006 Report Posted January 15, 2006 The money program for Mania is Angle/Mysterio. We should also get some more Angle/Benoit matches along the way which are always fun. Oh, and Raw is going to be complete garbage now. Michaels can't wrestle every match.
Jericho2000Mark Posted January 15, 2006 Report Posted January 15, 2006 But who was there left on Raw for Kurt to wrestle? Michaels? That's been done. Cena? That's been overdone. Triple H? They don't gel in the ring. Big Show and Kane? Angle wrestled Show all the time on SmackDown when the only three main eventers were Angle, Show and Lesnar for the longest time. With Kane, they had a very good match on SmackDown but one of the worst matches at WrestleMania 18, and that's saying something, because that was one of the worst Manias when it came to match quality. On SmackDown, Angle has fresh fueds with Rey, Benoit, Taker and though I don't think he should be main eventing, JBL.
Guest Dam(o)nYankees Posted January 15, 2006 Report Posted January 15, 2006 The money program for Mania is Angle/Mysterio. We should also get some more Angle/Benoit matches along the way which are always fun. Yeah, but the day after Mania (MAYBE Judgment Day) all the interesting angles for Kurt on SD! are used up.
Just John Posted January 15, 2006 Report Posted January 15, 2006 Well, at least it takes that long. Unlike on Raw, where all his interesting angles have been completely used up.
Hawk 34 Posted January 15, 2006 Report Posted January 15, 2006 The money program for Mania is Angle/Mysterio. We should also get some more Angle/Benoit matches along the way which are always fun. Yeah, but the day after Mania (MAYBE Judgment Day) all the interesting angles for Kurt on SD! are used up. This is where having a plan and being a competent company would benifit WWE and Angle for once...Batista should be back around early summer so there's your summer program for Smackdown. Just re-hash Benoit for an extra couple months and they can ride it out until the next booking pattern.
Guest Dam(o)nYankees Posted January 15, 2006 Report Posted January 15, 2006 Well, at least it takes that long. Unlike on Raw, where all his interesting angles have been completely used up. He can feud with Shawn Michaels for the rest of his life on Raw.
Guest Dam(o)nYankees Posted January 15, 2006 Report Posted January 15, 2006 The money program for Mania is Angle/Mysterio. We should also get some more Angle/Benoit matches along the way which are always fun. Yeah, but the day after Mania (MAYBE Judgment Day) all the interesting angles for Kurt on SD! are used up. This is where having a plan and being a competent company would benifit WWE and Angle for once...Batista should be back around early summer so there's your summer program for Smackdown. Just re-hash Benoit for an extra couple months and they can ride it out until the next booking pattern. Honestly, if they have to drag out a feud for filler, I'd rather it be the Rey feud or maybe a Taker feud. I love the Angle vs. Benoit matches, but and this is just me, but when Benoit gets into a multi-month feud with someone (Angle in 01, Angle in 02, HHH in 04, to an extent the Booker and Jordan feuds last year) as the feud moves on, the matches get better, but the feud itself gets really gimmicky, silly and stupid. He just doesn't have the personality to be feuding with one guy for three months and keep it fresh.
Hawk 34 Posted January 15, 2006 Report Posted January 15, 2006 The money program for Mania is Angle/Mysterio. We should also get some more Angle/Benoit matches along the way which are always fun. Yeah, but the day after Mania (MAYBE Judgment Day) all the interesting angles for Kurt on SD! are used up. This is where having a plan and being a competent company would benifit WWE and Angle for once...Batista should be back around early summer so there's your summer program for Smackdown. Just re-hash Benoit for an extra couple months and they can ride it out until the next booking pattern. Honestly, if they have to drag out a feud for filler, I'd rather it be the Rey feud or maybe a Taker feud. I love the Angle vs. Benoit matches, but and this is just me, but when Benoit gets into a multi-month feud with someone (Angle in 01, Angle in 02, HHH in 04, to an extent the Booker and Jordan feuds last year) as the feud moves on, the matches get better, but the feud itself gets really gimmicky, silly and stupid. He just doesn't have the personality to be feuding with one guy for three months and keep it fresh. Or better yet, start building new people up. They have proven that they can get someone over if they push them had enough. It's only a matter of pushing the right person.
Guest Dam(o)nYankees Posted January 15, 2006 Report Posted January 15, 2006 He's jumping to Smackdown, as a face. I hope this doesn't mean we get Angle-Orton at Mania, not that I don't think Angle can carry him, but I can't possibly think of a less appealing Main Event(well, maybe I can). Besides, once WWE gives Angle the neutered face treatment, they'll be forced to turn him back anyway. Angle v.s. Marc Henry. Honestly, in four minutes or whatever it was, Kurt and Mark had a nice little Big Fat man story going. That would being more intriguing to me (as a last ditch resort) than seeing The Orton Face in the Main Event of Wrestlemania.
Guest SickMoveFiend Posted January 15, 2006 Report Posted January 15, 2006 Batista should be back around early summer so there's your summer program for Smackdown. Fuck that, Batista should NEVER get the belt back at this point nore should Angle or Benoit ever have to job to that injury prone jackass let alone run a program with him. I don't care how big Batista's fanbase is-which has actually diminished greatly since Mania-, he was a waste of a push and a terrible champion. Fire his ass for all I care.
SuperJerk Posted January 15, 2006 Report Posted January 15, 2006 I find it funny that Angle was moved to Raw in the first place since he spent most of his time feuding with a came that came over with him from SD. they also could've waited a week or more and put the belt on Benoit, so Angle wasn't the only choice.
Guest FromBeyondTheGrave Posted January 15, 2006 Report Posted January 15, 2006 I find it funny that Angle was moved to Raw in the first place since he spent most of his time feuding with a came that came over with him from SD. Yeah, that is funny.
Masked Man of Mystery Posted January 15, 2006 Report Posted January 15, 2006 He could also feud with Orton and Lashley, ad maybe they'll decide the bring Haas back to Smackdown since Shelton has his "mother" and they can have that feud and even bring Shelton back to Smackdown to rebuild his career and there's two more feuds right there
Guest SickMoveFiend Posted January 15, 2006 Report Posted January 15, 2006 He could also feud with Orton and Lashley, Orton needs too much improvement before he can even dream of working a program with Angle. There isn't any point in Orton going over another vet who is way more accomplished then his boring arse. And just forget about Lashley, I dont know what it is people see in him. But he is not worth a push from Angle.
haVoc Posted January 15, 2006 Report Posted January 15, 2006 They usually do the draft/trades about a month after WM, right? There's enough guys on SD for Kurt to feud with until then.
iggymcfly Posted January 15, 2006 Report Posted January 15, 2006 Batista should be back around early summer so there's your summer program for Smackdown. Fuck that, Batista should NEVER get the belt back at this point nore should Angle or Benoit ever have to job to that injury prone jackass let alone run a program with him. I don't care how big Batista's fanbase is-which has actually diminished greatly since Mania-, he was a waste of a push and a terrible champion. Fire his ass for all I care. Angle/Batista will be the best program they could run over the summer. Having a credible world champion take on someone who held the belt for nine months before and never lost the title should draw huge money. Now with that being said, there's no reason they have to give Batista the title back. They could run a first PPV match where Angle retains due to his "championship advantage" in a DQ loss, even though Batista feels like he should still be champion, and then in the gimmick match blowoff, just let Angle win clean. Determining who should main event a big program and determining who should be champ are two totally different issues. By the time Angle gets done with Batista, who knows what may be open. Lesnar could come back or Lashley could get over huge as a face or Jericho could come back or Cena could come back from Raw. The point is that they'll have at least one big program to run coming out of Mania.
Guest DuDe Posted January 15, 2006 Report Posted January 15, 2006 And just forget about Lashley, I dont know what it is people see in him. But he is not worth a push from Angle. Uhm, maybe they see a very capable mat wrestler, and considering that both him and Angle come from a similar background, we might actually see some cool matches from the both of them?
cabbageboy Posted January 15, 2006 Report Posted January 15, 2006 Why does everyone assume Angle is a face now? He still has Daivari with him (who is a loyal slave) and there is really on point in turning him. Angle has NEVER made a decent face since he always has had a natural smarm about him. He'll be the de facto face vs. Mark Henry but then after that he'll drift into tweener territory. I'd put him against UT at WM since that'd be the biggest draw. I'm not sure why everyone wants Rey main eventing since he's simply not believable as a world champion. When people can say "I could kick this guy's ass" he's not a credible threat to the title. See Credible, Justin.
Hawk 34 Posted January 15, 2006 Report Posted January 15, 2006 Why does everyone assume Angle is a face now? He still has Daivari with him (who is a loyal slave) and there is really on point in turning him. Angle has NEVER made a decent face since he always has had a natural smarm about him. He'll be the de facto face vs. Mark Henry but then after that he'll drift into tweener territory. I'd put him against UT at WM since that'd be the biggest draw. I'm not sure why everyone wants Rey main eventing since he's simply not believable as a world champion. When people can say "I could kick this guy's ass" he's not a credible threat to the title. See Credible, Justin. People brought Shawn and Eddie as champion...and Eddie only had a couple inches over Reyand Rey has more mass then Shawn does.
naiwf Posted January 15, 2006 Report Posted January 15, 2006 Why does everyone assume Angle is a face now? He still has Daivari with him (who is a loyal slave) and there is really on point in turning him. Angle has NEVER made a decent face since he always has had a natural smarm about him. He'll be the de facto face vs. Mark Henry but then after that he'll drift into tweener territory. I'd put him against UT at WM since that'd be the biggest draw. I'm not sure why everyone wants Rey main eventing since he's simply not believable as a world champion. When people can say "I could kick this guy's ass" he's not a credible threat to the title. See Credible, Justin. People brought Shawn and Eddie as champion...and Eddie only had a couple inches over Reyand Rey has more mass then Shawn does. Did you see Shawn/Rey last year? If not, Shawn looked like a relative giant standing next to Rey and he's one of the smallest ME's/champs of all time. I can't buy a guy who is a legit 5'4 as the Heavyweight Champion of the World no matter what he does when 90% of the roster is well over 6 feet and 50-100 pounds heavier than he is. Sorry.
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