Stephen Joseph 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2006 Dude Stephen Joseph Not Johnson. I mean, I got a Johnson, but it ain't my last name. Dig? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gary Floyd 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2006 Dude Stephen Joseph Not Johnson. I mean, I got a Johnson, but it ain't my last name. Dig? Sorry about that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaosrage 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2006 Has anyone heard the Opie and Anthony interview with one of the producers of the Loose Change video? http://www.911podcasts.com/files/audio/Opi...s911Segment.mp3 It's fucking hilarious. The guy comes off even more insane here than he does in the video. This needs to be at the top of the page so everyone can hear. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gary Floyd 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2006 Has anyone heard the Opie and Anthony interview with one of the producers of the Loose Change video? http://www.911podcasts.com/files/audio/Opi...s911Segment.mp3 It's fucking hilarious. The guy comes off even more insane here than he does in the video. This needs to be at the top of the page so everyone can hear. Also, watch this: Penn and Teller on 9/11 conspiracy theories. Oh, and this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wahoo Report post Posted June 7, 2006 You should really just stop. Nobody here is taking you seriously. Man, please tell me what you have a problem with? If we were talking about World War II and I listed some facts about some battles that didn't go well for the USA, would you accuse me of supporting Hitler? If I said I was Christian and threw out some bible verses about Jesus, would you then think I hated gay people? You know little about me yet are jumping to wild conclusions and will not give one clue as to why you feel this way. This makes you seem like a hypocrite because this is exactly what many conspiracy theorists do. Oh, and I dare one of you fucking conspiracy theorists to say these kind of things to somebody who lost someone on 9/11. I'll bet your theories will go over great. According to your definition many of the victim's families are conspiracy theorists. Some of the info in this thread is stuff that many of them are doing everything they can to inform the public about. The 9/11 Commission came into being after many months of pressure from the families. Here is a mainstream news article that tells all about it. What about the Congressman who recently raised concerns about what the intelligence agencies knew about the hijackers before 9/11? Were the victim's families outraged by him asking this? Also, this is one of the worst threads I have ever posted in. Yes, the childish name calling has really interfered with the people trying to discuss facts about an important event in an intelligent manner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wahoo Report post Posted June 7, 2006 I have never heard of this passport until this thread, so a link to a legitimate news article down near the bottom: http://edition.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/inv.i...rism/index.html AP article via a Las Vegas newspaper: http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/200...s/17011253.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edwin MacPhisto 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2006 Oh man. That guy on the radio is ridiculous. That shit is way funny. Here's the passport bit, since I had to kind of look for it in the CNN article: New York Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik said Sunday a passport belonging to one of the hijackers was discovered a few days ago several blocks from the crash site by a passerby. Based on the new evidence, the FBI and police decided to widen the search area beyond the immediate crash site. I'm not sure what the hubbub is. Huge-ass explosions. Passport flies a few blocks away. It's not like it was right in the center of everything. I don't exactly find it terribly damning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Urban Warfare 0 Report post Posted June 8, 2006 That radio interview was fucking priceless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gary Floyd 0 Report post Posted June 8, 2006 Has anyone heard the Opie and Anthony interview with one of the producers of the Loose Change video? http://www.911podcasts.com/files/audio/Opi...s911Segment.mp3 It's fucking hilarious. The guy comes off even more insane here than he does in the video. This needs to be at the top of the page so everyone can hear. This should be listened to by every conspiracy happy jackass. It just proves how fucking stupid they are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted June 8, 2006 This thread should have been made out of passports. Hi! My. Name. is. Slayer. My. Voice? Is my. Passport? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dobbs 3K 0 Report post Posted June 8, 2006 Yeah, thanks for the Opie and Anthony link. They pretty much dismantled the guy. I think it was a little unfair at the end where they let the callers go wild on him, but they had pretty much completely disproven him by that point. I love how he brought up "voice manipulation software" or whatever, basically inferring that the people whose loved ones had called them from the doomed airplanes, were tricked by the government, or something idiotic like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted June 8, 2006 This Loose Change guy on Opie and Anthony is hilarious Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wahoo Report post Posted June 8, 2006 Everyone involved was pretty much a moron there. The Corey guy doesn't have any solid proof but thinks he knows exactly what happened. Opie and Anthony right off the bat show their knowledge level is low by doubting there was War Games (they're covered in the 9/11 Commission Report). Their main purpose was just to make fun of a conspiracy guy, but what else can you expect from a comedy show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dobbs 3K 0 Report post Posted June 8, 2006 Well, at least it's been proved that the "documentary" that this entire thread was based on is complete bullshit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wahoo Report post Posted June 8, 2006 Well, at least it's been proved that the "documentary" that this entire thread was based on is complete bullshit. Would you want Opie and Anthony as your lawyers at a trial? What were these great facts and arguments they brought forth? It takes a long time to put bombs in a building - there are pictures of the hijackers at the airports - the news media lies - you're stupid and hate your parents, yadda yadda yadda! The documentary has a lot facts and their site has many links to the government files and major news articles. Now, their analysis and the conclusions they jump to based on these facts reeks of bullshit, but people should be able to decide that on their own and not take their opinions from some comedy radio DJs who did little or no research on the topic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gary Floyd 0 Report post Posted June 9, 2006 Well, at least it's been proved that the "documentary" that this entire thread was based on is complete bullshit. Would you want Opie and Anthony as your lawyers at a trial? What were these great facts and arguments they brought forth? It takes a long time to put bombs in a building - there are pictures of the hijackers at the airports - the news media lies - you're stupid and hate your parents, yadda yadda yadda! The documentary has a lot facts and their site has many links to the government files and major news articles. Now, their analysis and the conclusions they jump to based on these facts reeks of bullshit, but people should be able to decide that on their own and not take their opinions from some comedy radio DJs who did little or no research on the topic. So, you really take "Loose Change" seriously? Because if you do, This thread has to end sooner or later. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted June 9, 2006 Well, at least it's been proved that the "documentary" that this entire thread was based on is complete bullshit. Would you want Opie and Anthony as your lawyers at a trial? What were these great facts and arguments they brought forth? It takes a long time to put bombs in a building - there are pictures of the hijackers at the airports - the news media lies - you're stupid and hate your parents, yadda yadda yadda! The documentary has a lot facts and their site has many links to the government files and major news articles. Now, their analysis and the conclusions they jump to based on these facts reeks of bullshit, but people should be able to decide that on their own and not take their opinions from some comedy radio DJs who did little or no research on the topic. So, you really take "Loose Change" seriously? Because if you do, This thread has to end sooner or later. Geez, get over "Loose Change" already. It's not as if that video is the be all end all of questions about 9/11. If Loose Change is shown to be 100% bullshit that still doesn't mean anything in the bigger picture. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gary Floyd 0 Report post Posted June 9, 2006 Well, at least it's been proved that the "documentary" that this entire thread was based on is complete bullshit. Would you want Opie and Anthony as your lawyers at a trial? What were these great facts and arguments they brought forth? It takes a long time to put bombs in a building - there are pictures of the hijackers at the airports - the news media lies - you're stupid and hate your parents, yadda yadda yadda! The documentary has a lot facts and their site has many links to the government files and major news articles. Now, their analysis and the conclusions they jump to based on these facts reeks of bullshit, but people should be able to decide that on their own and not take their opinions from some comedy radio DJs who did little or no research on the topic. So, you really take "Loose Change" seriously? Because if you do, This thread has to end sooner or later. Geez, get over "Loose Change" already. It's not as if that video is the be all end all of questions about 9/11. If Loose Change is shown to be 100% bullshit that still doesn't mean anything in the bigger picture. Is it just me, or wasn't this thread originally about "Loose Change"? If so, what the fuck happened? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dobbs 3K 0 Report post Posted June 9, 2006 Yeah, but "Loose Change" contains basically all the arguments of the people who think 9/11 wasn't perpetrated by Al-Quaeda. So basically, if it's bullshit, all the arguments are as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gary Floyd 0 Report post Posted June 9, 2006 Yeah, but "Loose Change" contains basically all the arguments of the people who think 9/11 wasn't perpetrated by Al-Quaeda. So basically, if it's bullshit, all the arguments are as well. Well, there you go folks. End of story. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wahoo Report post Posted June 9, 2006 I'm just saying that "Loose Change" contains a lot of well documented facts that a lot of people aren't aware of. These easily verifiable facts shouldn't be thought of as bullshit just because their analysis of these facts is bullshit. Let's say Brock Lesnar is seen backstage at a WWE show. Pretend some site takes that fact and uses it to report he is definately coming back. Now this would make them morons for reporting like this, but that doesn't change the fact that he actually was backstage, whether it was just to visit friends or whatever. The anti-conspiracy people who don't have a clue about basic facts, yet are still very opinionated and think they know it all, are almost as annoying as the conspiracy people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stephen Joseph 0 Report post Posted June 11, 2006 Umm I know alot of the facts. Kind of did alot of research when the theories started to fly around I can conclude that planes were hijacked, people died, and there was no government conspiracy. Wahoo, do you know what Occam's Razor is? If so, apply it here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted June 11, 2006 For some of the CTers, I think it's just a case where they cannot accept that something like that happened to America. They cannot believe that someone could do that, that someone could crash planes into buildings and kill people. Sometimes you just need to make up a new story to make yourself feel better. If your government did it, to some of them it makes them feel safer and more secure. But when the theories start dropping like flies and it becomes more and more obvious that the original story was the truth...they get angry and just go with the, "I REFUSE TO BELIEVE IT" and no one will tell them otherwise. So I've taken a new approach. Let em. If they would rather live in the world where it's easier on them that the government did it, it's fine by me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted June 11, 2006 I can conclude that planes were hijacked, people died, and there was no government conspiracy. Ok even if you agree with the first two parts of the sentence, which I happen to, that doesn't eliminate a "government conspiracy" I am not someone who doesn't think Arabs hijacked planes and flew them into the WTC. However I do have questions as to pre-9/11 intelligence that maybe could have prevented it and why there seemed to be so many warnings and indicators out there that seemingly went ignored. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted June 11, 2006 However I do have questions as to pre-9/11 intelligence that maybe could have prevented it and why there seemed to be so many warnings and indicators out there that seemingly went ignored. That's not government conspiracy, it's government incompetence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CheesalaIsGood 0 Report post Posted June 11, 2006 However I do have questions as to pre-9/11 intelligence that maybe could have prevented it and why there seemed to be so many warnings and indicators out there that seemingly went ignored. That's not government conspiracy, it's government incompetence. So can I still hate George Bush then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Felonies! Report post Posted June 11, 2006 Of course, the fear that 2GOLD puports to captivate conspiracy theorists is the same as that which binds everyone else to the official story. Just saying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Henry Spencer 0 Report post Posted June 11, 2006 I really cannot fathom people who find Opie and Anthony funny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gary Floyd 0 Report post Posted June 11, 2006 I really cannot fathom people who find Opie and Anthony funny. I fell that way about every morning zoo-shock jock type Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
