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How is it going to come off in Chicago when a HEEL (or at least a booked one) wins the main event and the world title at the biggest show of the year? That has NEVER happened in WrestleMania history with the exception of the X-7 finish involving Austin's heel turn, but he wasn't booked as a heel entering that match. It just seems like a terrible decision to put HHH-Cena on last so that HHH can go over and piss off all of the wrestling world. Then again, it really is a no-win situation because no one wants to see Cena with the belt any longer and no one wants to see HHH with the belt again. I'm definitely saving my $50 from this WM, the first one I'll refuse to buy since I first became a true fan in 1995.

 

 

Not sure if you meant "win or retain" or just "win" the World Title at WM as a heel, but Triple H won at WM2000 to retain his belt as a heel. That was the first time it had been done.

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More thrilling negativity from you idiots. And celebrating a girl breaking her leg is a new fucking low.

 

 

I, for one, can't WAIT for HHH to both bury him over the next few weeks on Raw, and then squash him at Mania. As a FAN, it's what you look forward to

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More thrilling negativity from you idiots.
judging from your TNA folder exploits you should feel right at home in the "sea of negative idiots"

 

I, for one, can't WAIT for HHH to both bury him over the next few weeks on Raw, and then squash him at Mania. As a FAN, it's what you look forward to
Erm how bout no?

 

unless "FAN" is an abbriviation for something that means the opposite in your world.

 

I mean you take the general fan - the one that you chastize for not cheering more for Cena (funny how you cheer for Cena's opponent - BAD WWE MARK!! BAD!!) and you think they want to see HHH on top

 

Again?

 

With no one being allowed to even look like they're in the same ball park as him??

 

Again??

 

HHH holding the title with nothing fresh or new to look forward to?

 

Again??

 

You WANT to see that?

 

Why?

 

Either you're just a gimmick poster or you live in some Rand McNally world where you wear hats on your feet and shoes on your head.

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HHH is over enough, and talented enough to justify a reign with the belt. He hasn't been top guy on the show since JULY! Is a title reign that bad????

 

Yes, I absolutely want another HHH reign if it gets us away from Cena - who I like, but not as a ME

 

With no one being allowed to even look like they're in the same ball park as him??

 

Bullshit

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With no one being allowed to even look like they're in the same ball park as him??

 

Bullshit

Oh yeah? YOU were the one advocating a total and utter burial of Cena and then a squash to send him back to "his place" in the federation. Funny how you can advocate it and then call bullshit on it 3 seconds later.

 

Big Show isn't shown as a threat, he beat him AND RVD in the same match

 

RVD booked as a threat?

 

Who's booked in the WWE as any kind of threat to HHH's position as the "king of kings"? come on put something on the table other than hot air.

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Preferably, I'd like to see them build to another HHH-HBK match at Summerslam. Or bring back Randy Savage for a one shot. Or, here's a shock - build up someone new. Who isn't an ECW-reject

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Jeez I don't know what I was thinking saying Randy Savage.

 

 

Maybe steal someone from Jarrett and build him up as a fuck you to Jeff.

 

If you take out all the WWE Rejects, who's left? The timekeeper??????

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I will be watching Wrestlemania. I love wrestling and I love WWE. However, I am smart enough to call a spade a spade and say when the show is shitty. I do want Triple H to win the title at Mania, because I think Cena would be better as a heel. I want Triple H to hold the belt until ECW ONSII and drop it to RVD. Why? Because Triple H has been booked as the superman heel for the longest time and RVD would get a huge rub from that.

 

See, it's not you and WWE against the world, toots. Other people on here enjoy the WWE as a whole, but they don't swallow every piece of shit that the WWE feeds them. Stop looking in black and white and see the shades of gray.

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So your idea is "Shawn Vs HHH" part 983? or steal a TNA guy to push straight to the main event? *LOL* I thought TNA was utter shit? hmmmm that's funny (who from TNA would you specifically go for?)

 

Build a new guy? erm HHH has had opportunities to do so but so far has participated in the successful build of ONE guy (Batista) that's the sum total of new guys HHH has been a help in building.

 

So excuse me if I doubt his track record will change.

 

and you say HBK, Randy Savage, a TNA guy "a new guy"

 

so you admit that NO ONE currently on Raw is built up to even be close to a threat to HHH - I mean after all why go for someone not even on the roster yet if you had guys that were made to look like credible challengers.

 

So thank you for proving my point that no one is booked to look like a credible challenger to HHH

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Two weeks ago on Raw a guy TURNED HIS BACK ON THE RING when HHH pinned Flair. I'm supposed to call him a FAN!???

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So your idea is "Shawn Vs HHH" part 983? or steal a TNA guy to push straight to the main event? *LOL* I thought TNA was utter shit? hmmmm that's funny (who from TNA would you specifically go for?)

 

Build a new guy? erm HHH has had opportunities to do so but so far has participated in the successful build of ONE guy (Batista) that's the sum total of new guys HHH has been a help in building.

 

Thus proving that HHH does actually help build up new talent. More than Van Dam ever did in ECW. 2 years title reign and he cant be bothered

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Two weeks ago on Raw a guy TURNED HIS BACK ON THE RING when HHH pinned Flair. I'm supposed to call him a FAN!???
a wrestling fan yes, he paid his money to see a wrestling show

 

a HHH fan? no

 

a blind mark who loves everything the WWE does? no (or in your language *baah-ba-baaah*)

 

a wrestling fan? yes

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So your idea is "Shawn Vs HHH" part 983? or steal a TNA guy to push straight to the main event? *LOL* I thought TNA was utter shit? hmmmm that's funny (who from TNA would you specifically go for?)

 

Build a new guy? erm HHH has had opportunities to do so but so far has participated in the successful build of ONE guy (Batista) that's the sum total of new guys HHH has been a help in building.

 

Thus proving that HHH does actually help build up new talent. More than Van Dam ever did in ECW. 2 years title reign and he cant be bothered

 

Yeah, RVD never elevated Jerry Lynn to main event status. Wait, he did.

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So your idea is "Shawn Vs HHH" part 983? or steal a TNA guy to push straight to the main event? *LOL* I thought TNA was utter shit? hmmmm that's funny (who from TNA would you specifically go for?)

 

Build a new guy? erm HHH has had opportunities to do so but so far has participated in the successful build of ONE guy (Batista) that's the sum total of new guys HHH has been a help in building.

 

Thus proving that HHH does actually help build up new talent. More than Van Dam ever did in ECW. 2 years title reign and he cant be bothered

funny cause HHH spent years proving the opposite, but now he should "magically" start?

 

2 years TV title reign and RVD can't be bothered to what? not win the world title? not make everyone else look totally inferior to him? not push himself as the wrestling deity to end all deities?

 

well thank god he couldn't be bothered to do that ;)

 

What can't RVD be bothered to do?

 

Oh and come on - who from TNA would you have HHH "help build"?

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I'm not a blind mark. WWE does lots of things I don't like. HHH winning a match isn't one of them

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Apparently them pushing HHH as if he has no equal doesn't bother you either.

 

come on now - don't skirt the issues who from that "third rate fed" (in your own words) would you bring in for HHH to help build?

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What, before or after you bounce all the WWE Rejects? Who are you left with?

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Considering YOU were the one to say "bring in some TNA" guy I really expected you to have enough brains to actually come up with a name.

 

or were you just desperately throwing shit at the wall to see what stuck to try and counter an argument you had no intelligent counter to?

 

Right so TNA are all "losers", the current Raw are all shown as beneath HHH with only his good buddy HBK in the picture - how can you call "bullshit" then when I say no one is allowed to even look like they're in the same ballpark?

 

You proved my point youself - thank you so much for making it that easy :D

 

I guess that leaves "new guys already in the WWE but not built up" or anyone who doesn't have the "TNA stink" (in your terms) then??

 

come on you're so clever, you know what we should all think and stuff - put your brain where your keyboard is and lay it out.

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Ideally? The only guys close are Carlito and Masters, but they're heels - which is why I feel, as I stated in the other thread - a HHH face turn is necessary

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Trips just can't control his ego, he still feels that RVD could be a huge threat to his ME spot and he had to bury him as soon as possible, the only people he decides to put over are non-threats like Benjamin (athletic but very green on the mic), Benoit (great wrestler but "too small"/ "too boring on the mic" for Vince's taste) and Batista/Flair (HHH's buddies and too old to be real main eventers).

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Chris Masters has less heat than Randy Orton. How does that qualify as "close"?

 

Rey is rumored to be coming over to Raw in the next draft, so HHH has to stay heel to go against Rey. Besides, if heel HHH doesn't make anyone look good, how is face HHH going to do it? He's practically a face now as it is (winning clean, overcoming the odds, chasing the title), so the only difference would be going over heels instead of faces. I wouldn't exactly call that freshening up his character.

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Carlito is a Christian level heel...I'm not talking overness here, don't get your panties in a bunch...I'm talking placement on the card...he's got a long way to go before he reaches the ME level...Masters is nowhere near ready, this past Raw screamed that.

 

Rey going to Raw scares me, unless it leads to him beating HHH for the title at, say, Summerslam which is a possibility...the scary part is that HHH will eventually get him back and bury him.

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