The Super pre-SNME Thread

[Just John 0]

Will be curious to see how they even work this into the Ross was fired storyline.

 

By ignoring it and hoping no one remembers.

[razazteca 0]

Maybe JR will be the new GM.

[Guest Coffey]

From my understanding, Vince McMahon wanted a new announcer in the first place because he didn't like the way that Jim Ross looks. He doesn't think that Ross is "camera friendly." Now, if Jim Ross were to come back as GM, wouldn't that defeat the point of getting rid of him as an announcer in the first place? Afterall, the GM is a pretty big on-air role.

[haVoc 0]

Bringing back JR was the only way they could get Austin back on camera. He'll probably bring JR out during his drinking contest with JBL.

[Si82 0]

I'm not starting a new thread so I'll post this in here:

 

From Meltzer's update:

 

Jim Ross returns to WWE as the announcer for Saturday Night's Main Event a week from today.

 

Is this good or bad?

Bad.

 

Ross started to sound like a confused old man in his final months with WWE and, besides that, his performaces had been going downhill for years with him constantly falling back on an endless list of crappy cliches.

 

I was hoping Ross, and indeed his buddy Austin, would stay the fuck away forever.

[razazteca 0]

Why must the announcers be "camera friendly"? The job of the announcer is to shrill the main event, storylines, angles, wrestlers, personalities, etc., there is no need for the announcer to look like a model. All the announcer needs is a good voice and the ability to translate the emotion in the ring to the fans. All of these pretty boy announcer reminds me of the crab people from South Park....factory produced cookie cutter nobodys with no personality or individuality.

[The Niggardly King 0]

This will be good, as I have begun to miss JR's yelling and schilling and his tendency to fuck stuff up. It matches with the current product.

[Guest Coffey]

Why must the announcers be "camera friendly"? The job of the announcer is to shrill the main event, storylines, angles, wrestlers, personalities, etc., there is no need for the announcer to look like a model. All the announcer needs is a good voice and the ability to translate the emotion in the ring to the fans.

You're preaching to the choir, man. Vince has the power, not the fans.

[razazteca 0]

Maybe the producers of WWE television need to look for work elsewhere like maybe BRAVO so they can work their dream job of manufacting the gayest programs on television...I know there has to be at least one or two people in WWE that want to work on Queer Eye or Project Runway.

[cawthon777 0]

Disappointment? I'll have to wait until the show airs but as of right now - no.

 

I know we all like to put our wrestling memories on a pedestal and build them up in our heads as the best thing ever. When it comes to the era of SNME, it really wasn't any better than what we have now. In fact, aside from the inclusion of Phil Collins' "Take Me Home" during the end credits, we're a lot better off now.

 

Look at the first SNME. The Junkyard Dog, with his mom (it was Mothers Day) fought Pete Doherty to close the show. That's the equivalent of the Big Show facing Matt Striker in terms of star power. And do we need a history lesson as to how often the hillbillies appeared during those first few episodes?

 

The kind of fans we are, we could sit down and dissect each and every installment of SNME and chalk up 80% of it as pure wrestlecrap. And yet that's the stuff that really helped get the company over in the 80s.

 

It used to be that the card for Saturday Night's Main Event wasn't even announced until the week before the show. At least now they're giving it a few week's worth of buildup rather than closing Raw with a brief promo from Cena / HHH about their tag match the following week.

 

I think with the fact they're actually promoting the full card a few weeks beforehand (a card that features no matches which, on paper, are obvious squashes) and the timeslot now is 3 hours earlier than it was in 1985 ... they're already off to a good start.

[Art Sandusky 0]

I think it'll be good to have JR there. Just have (in storyline) NBC tell WWE that they didn't look kindly upon how JR was fired and want him back or else there's no show on Saturday night. Let JR become the third man in the booth, since Joey Styles prefers sparse commentary and Coach tries to carry what's going on (but can't).

 

Tell me that wouldn't be cool.

[Si82 0]

I think it'll be good to have JR there. Just have (in storyline) NBC tell WWE that they didn't look kindly upon how JR was fired and want him back or else there's no show on Saturday night. Let JR become the third man in the booth, since Joey Styles prefers sparse commentary and Coach tries to carry what's going on (but can't).

 

Tell me that wouldn't be cool.

That wouldn't be cool.

 

And do you really think WWE will try to explain Ross being back?

[EdwardKnoxII 0]

I think it'll be good to have JR there. Just have (in storyline) NBC tell WWE that they didn't look kindly upon how JR was fired and want him back or else there's no show on Saturday night. Let JR become the third man in the booth, since Joey Styles prefers sparse commentary and Coach tries to carry what's going on (but can't).

 

Tell me that wouldn't be cool.

That wouldn't be cool.

 

And do you really think WWE will try to explain Ross being back?

 

And why would NBC care about how he was fired? Hell that was months ago.

[2GOLD 0]

So Vince against the Network? Only if they bring in Cyrus with an NBC press pass to walk out and say, "EXCUSE ME! EXCUSE ME!"

 

Then just make him GM, say it was ordered by NBC and Vince complied because he knew what's good for filling his pockets with cash.

[Art Sandusky 0]

I think it'll be good to have JR there. Just have (in storyline) NBC tell WWE that they didn't look kindly upon how JR was fired and want him back or else there's no show on Saturday night. Let JR become the third man in the booth, since Joey Styles prefers sparse commentary and Coach tries to carry what's going on (but can't).

 

Tell me that wouldn't be cool.

That wouldn't be cool.

 

And do you really think WWE will try to explain Ross being back?

 

And why would NBC care about how he was fired? Hell that was months ago.

Since major broadcast networks have, in wrestling, always been characterized as repressive control machines, why not just make it a positive kind of control. Or maybe they'll just have someone show up and say "Vince, Coach sucks. No way he's going to be on our network."

[Toshiaki Koala 0]

If they wanted to make the RAW Vs. Smackdown! match mean something, they could hype it as the winning brand goes on last at Wrestlemania.

 

Such a match already took place. It was called the Royal Rumble. You don't want the Rumble to be COMPLETELY meaningless, do you?

 

Seriously, what current storylines? So far, the Vince vs HBK storyline is "Vince is mad at Shawn for something". HHH vs Cena is "HHH is like, really awesome, and Cena really sucks but he has the belt", Orton vs Angle vs Rey is "EDDIE! EDDIE! EDDIE!".

 

That's the best summation of the current WWE storylines that I've ever read. Smackdown is still awesome, of course, but you nailed it.

[Dobbs 3K 0]

My question is, does anyone really honestly WANT Jim Ross back as an announcer? I agree that the way they wrote him off from RAW sucked and was in very bad taste, but I haven't enjoyed listening to the guy since about 2000, if not earlier. I couldn't stand his constant repetition of the same one liners. It was like he called every match in the exact same fashion. I much prefer the three man team at this point, especially with Joey Styles as the play by play man.

 

If they feel the need to bring back JR for SNME, fine, but I don't want him back on a regular basis. Frankly, if I had my way, Vince wouldn't be involved in any storylines, and we'd have a pseudo-old school announce team of Vince and Jim Ross and/or Jerry Lawler calling the matches.

[razazteca 0]

Anything is better than listening to Coach stumbling onto other people's lines. Coach has never been a good announcer ever.

[pochorenella 0]

Jim Ross confirmed on WWE.com that for SNME it'll be Tazz, Jerry Lawler, and himself as the broadcast team.

[Si82 0]

Jim Ross confirmed on WWE.com that for SNME it'll be Tazz, Jerry Lawler, and himself as the broadcast team.

There's something about that team that makes me think it just isn't going to work. Why couldn't they have just had Ross and Tazz?

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

I can't wait for the next time the WWE fucks with JR and people act all indignant like JR doesn't deserve it. JR is now asking, nay, BEGGING, to be fucked with now. I never felt sorry for the guy before, because he's been with the company long enough to know they aren't going to do right by him, but now I *want* him to get embarassed on live tv.

[RedJed 0]

For what its worth, count me in as one of those who actually wants to see Ross return back to announcing. Like it or not, even with his exaggerated catchphrases, the guy knows how to tell a story when a story is needed to be told. The Lawler-Ross interaction was stale at the time, but its clear Lawler doesnt gel nearly as well as with Styles/Coach. Ideally, Ross and Lawler should go back to announcing Raw, and Styles should be moved over to team with Tazz on Smackdown. Cole and Coach? Who knows, who cares. Backstage interviewers perhaps? But they have shown that they arent cut out for an actual announcing role.

 

Ross, Lawler, and Tazz on SNME should be interesting. I'd much prefer Tazz/Ross doing SD matches and Ross/Lawler doing Raw matches and then have them all on announcing for the interpromotional main event.

 

Any thoughts on what else may be added to the SD side for the show on Sat?

[Lil' Bitch 0]

Why did they end SNME?

[Perfxion 0]

Ratings were dropping faster than Savage's mass off the roids at the time.

[Si82 0]

Like it or not, even with his exaggerated catchphrases, the guy knows how to tell a story when a story is needed to be told.

I don't think screaming at the top of your lungs constitues telling a story.

[Guest Dam(o)nYankees]

I agree with Alvarez on this one. I cant listen to Styles praise Ashley's right hands anymore. Bring back JR.

[Lord of The Curry 0]

Because hearing JR verbally felate HHH and Cena is a change for the better?

[RedJed 0]

Like it or not, even with his exaggerated catchphrases, the guy knows how to tell a story when a story is needed to be told.

I don't think screaming at the top of your lungs constitues telling a story.

 

If you think thats all he does, or for that matter "fellates Cena and HHH" - then some people are not understanding the abilities Ross has compared to the other announcers. At least with Ross once in a blue moon he can make a feud or match interesting via the commentary, whereas I dont really see anyone else on the roster other than Tazz at times really trying to do the same.

[Si82 0]

Like it or not, even with his exaggerated catchphrases, the guy knows how to tell a story when a story is needed to be told.

I don't think screaming at the top of your lungs constitues telling a story.

 

If you think thats all he does, or for that matter "fellates Cena and HHH" - then some people are not understanding the abilities Ross has compared to the other announcers. At least with Ross once in a blue moon he can make a feud or match interesting via the commentary, whereas I dont really see anyone else on the roster other than Tazz at times really trying to do the same.

I do think that's all he does now. He's become a pathetic shell of his former self.

 

Sure at one time Ross was an excellent commentator but over the years his abilities have declined rapidly. He's fallen back into a comfort zone. He knows he has the respect of fans and doesn't bother to better himself. It doesn't help that he's been stuck with Jerry Lawler on commentary for God know's how many years. The best work Ross has done in recent years was with others on commentary like Paul Heyman and Tazz. Being with a different partner on commentary made him step up his game.

 

Putting him back in there with Lawler will not bring out the best in J.R. in my opinion. Add to that the fact that Steve Austin will be there and I'm sure he'll be screaming "STONE COLD, STONE COLD, STONE COLD!!!" like an idiot.

[Guest Coffey]

I don't think screaming at the top of your lungs constitues telling a story.

You must HATE TNA. That's all Tenay & West do.