This week in the NBA

[Mr. S£im Citrus 0]

Well, at least the Lakers lost... we should stay in 7th for now.

[bobobrazil1984 0]

Ugh. rip hamilton and sheed both got ejected in the 3rd Q. Sheed for his usual bitching, not sure what Rip for, ball went into the stands i think?

[mike546 0]

OH ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?!? Only the Knicks would foul on that shot.

[mike546 0]

FUCK YEA! KNICKS WIN!

[alfdogg 0]

Kobe misses a tough three forced up over a double-team at the end of a game against the Nets, Lakers go down by three. Oh well, at least he didn't pass to an open teammate like LeBron does!

[Brett Favre 0]

The Pistons act like bitches when they don't get foul calls, or get called for fouls.

 

Crawford goes Jordan on Billups, after Billups fouls Marbury a few possessions before, so its all even. That McDyess call was bull, but the ball never lies.

 

Good win. Everyone in the starting lineup was in double figures, and the 2nd unit played well themselves.

[mike546 0]

No, Rose definitley hit McDyess on the elbow.

[Brett Favre 0]

If he did, that shit had minimal affect on the shot. BS call during that time of the game.

 

Just because Breen said it hit him, doesnt mean he did anyway.

[Kurt Angle Mark 0]

Clippers rebound after that Suns ass kicking by beating the AI-less 76ers 99-89

 

Also my theory on why the Suns are the Spurs BITCHES is because Parker is faster and quicker and therefore can out Nash Steve Nash.

 

Bill Simmons monthly NBA rankings is up

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story...ht&lid=tab3pos2

 

Good stuff as always

[naiwf 0]

After reading that, it does makes me wonder why no one is taking about Dwyane Wade (and his 28-6-6 on a legit title contender) for MVP. It'll go to Nash which disgusts me as he would be the worst back to back winner ever, but Wade's name isn't even in the fucking conversation and I don't understand why.

[Open the Muggy Gate 0]

18. Houston

How do you write, "That's it, I'm tired of being pushed around and dunked on, I'm tired of having my manhood questioned, I'm tired of having my coach shake his head at me ... I'm declaring war on this entire freaking league!" in Chinese?

 

I fucking loved that.

 

2nd place goes to...

 

(Of course, since Artest is involved, the previous paragraph could look phenomenally ridiculous in three weeks considering he's the one NBA player in the Mike Tyson Zone -- in other words, he could do just about anything and it wouldn't be surprising, with the possibilities ranging from "I can't believe Ron Artest punched out a referee!" to "I can't believe Ron Artest tried to kill the Maloof brothers!")

[Damaramu 0]

After reading that, it does makes me wonder why no one is taking about Dwyane Wade (and his 28-6-6 on a legit title contender) for MVP. It'll go to Nash which disgusts me as he would be the worst back to back winner ever, but Wade's name isn't even in the fucking conversation and I don't understand why.

 

Damn that white man for winning the award! Damn him!

[Brett Favre 0]

That's because Wade's team has underachieved up until recently. I mean, J-Will, Walker, Payton, Mourning, and Shaq? Nash has had Diaw, and House, and Bell to work with other than Marion, and has a better record. Not even close.

[naiwf 0]

That's because Wade's team has underachieved up until recently. I mean, J-Will, Walker, Payton, Mourning, and Shaq? Nash has had Diaw, and House, and Bell to work with other than Marion, and has a better record. Not even close.

 

What difference does underachieving until recently matter when Wade has been averaging 30+ (?) a pop for the last 2 months, his team has won 14 of 15 AND he's the best all around player in the league on one of the 4 or 5 legit title contenders? Do the rules only apply to a guy like that if his name is Duncan, LeBron or Kobe? I don't think he will or should win, but he should at least be in the conversation moreso than the last two guys I listed or Chauncey Billups who essentially plays with an All-Star team if you believe the NBA coaching braintrust. Aside from Nash and maybe Nowitzki, I don't see how anyone should finish ahead of him.

[Brett Favre 0]

Nash's team has overachieved, his has underachieved. He has more talent around him to put up those numbers, while Nash doesn't. Maybe he's a top 10 candidate, whatever, but like you said, Nash is ahead of him.

[Kurt Angle Mark 0]

Nash is the MVP by far, the reason being is that not only is he a good player but he makes everyone around him better which IMO is the definition of Valuable in team sports.

 

Anyway I must agree that Wade is the best individual player in the league. What separates him from guys like Kobe, T-Mac and Vince is that he can't shoot 3's to save his life, therefore he never settles for shots and keeps attacking. The only reason I don't like Wade more is that he is easily the biggest cry baby in the league, he bitches every single time he thinks he gets fouled.

[Just John 0]

I understood (though didn't agree with) a lot of the arguments against Nash winning the MVP last year. I mean, Amare, Q, Marion, and Johnson were all putting up great numbers that made it look like anyone could do Nash's job. But now... Now 3 of those 4 guys are gone. Two went to other teams where their numbers aren't anywhere near what they were with Nash, mind you. Marion has stepped up, but there's no way he completely compensates for those other three. Meanwhile, Diaw, Bell, and the like are putting up great numbers with Nash that they could have only dreamed about with their old teams.

 

To me, not only does Nash's performance this season warrant him getting the MVP award this year, but it completely vindicates and eliminates all controversy from last year's award as well.

[Brett Favre 0]

Nash is going to have more MVP Awards than Shaq and Kobe combined.

[naiwf 0]

To me, not only does Nash's performance this season warrant him getting the MVP award this year, but it completely vindicates and eliminates all controversy from last year's award as well.

 

I guess I agree with that, but the history of NBA hoops will look awkward assuming Nash doesn't get crippled in the next couple of days and wins another MVP simply because this stat will be true.

 

Career MVP's

 

2 - Steve Nash

1 - Shaquille O'Neal

 

It's not Nash's fault, but God damn does that look wrong.

[Brett Favre 0]

That's great. It's about time PGs got their recognition.

[naiwf 0]

Kidd deserved it over Duncan, I still think Shaq deserved it over Nash last year. Nash definitely deserves it this year, but I don't think the media are consistent with the purpose behind the award, and their voting shows it.

 

Steve Nash with multiple MVP awards just doesn't sit well with me at all. I don't get why other guys get it (or get passed over for it) due to career achievement. Some guys get it for being the best player on the team with the best record, but this year Nash is gonna get his in part because Amare's absence proved that he was more valuable than previously expected. Nash will be in the same position next year and if he wins 3 straight I won't be able to take the award seriously. Nash is no John Stockton and yet Stockton never got a fucking sniff because he played with Malone. I just don't see the logic.

 

Sorry for the rant, but it just irks me when the voters constantly change the criteria with no explanation, just like they did in baseball with the A-Rod/Ortiz debacle last year.

[Brett Favre 0]

The thing with Steve Nash last year, everyone around him with the exception of Marion had a career year, AND the team went from worst to first pretty much due to his acquistion. So there were more factors. The thing with Stockton, Malone was always there, and right now, no one that Steve Nash plays with is that good. Amare might have gotten to that level or will, but he's been hurt, which is why I think he'll win it again this year.

[naiwf 0]

The thing with Steve Nash last year, everyone around him with the exception of Marion had a career year, AND the team went from worst to first pretty much due to his acquistion. So there were more factors. The thing with Stockton, Malone was always there, and right now, no one that Steve Nash plays with is that good. Amare might have gotten to that level or will, but he's been hurt, which is why I think he'll win it again this year.

 

Here's my problem with the Nash victories.

 

Last year he played with 2 other top 20-30 guys in the league (Marion & Amare) and won, largely because well Shaq had Wade and people didn't think he deserved it because Wade is supposedly greater than the combo of the Matrix & Amare. Or at least that was the logic when people explained why Nash deserved it.

 

This year he'll win because he only played with Marion, whose game has incidentally improved to very low borderline MVP candidacy on his own. This time Wade won't win even though Marion is playing better than Shaq this year.

 

Next year, if Amare comes back at even 85% of what he was, and the Suns win 60+ which is possible, if not probable, then Nash will be the favorite once again because he'll return to being the "best" player on the best team even though again he'll have 2 all world guys on his team while Wade will be playing with a diminishing Shaq and will likely put up even more ridiculous numbers than he did this year.

 

The voting isn't all that consistent. When did 3 all stars on one starting 5 supposedly constitute a handicap that needs to be overcome when judged against a dynamic duo? I hope that explains the point better.

[Brett Favre 0]

Not fair man. The Suns were in last place with Amare, JJ, and Marion. The Heat were a playoff team with Wade, and just a better playoff team with Shaq. There's a major difference.

 

Next year, I really doubt he'll be considered for the MVP Award because Amare should be a dominant force. But that hasn't happened, so theres not point in arguing.

[alfdogg 0]

Did Shaq really have that great of a year last year? The Heat were already the #4 seed in the East before making that trade, and as was said, the Suns went from worst to first. If it was anyone other that Shaq in that position, all you'd hear is "oh, it's just because he plays in the East".

[Brett Favre 0]

It's easy to say that Nash played with two all-stars last year, but most if not all predictions before the season started had the Suns barely making the playoffs, or not making them at all in a tough ass Western Conference.

[Just John 0]

Next year, if Amare comes back at even 85% of what he was, and the Suns win 60+ which is possible, if not probable, then Nash will be the favorite once again because he'll return to being the "best" player on the best team even though again he'll have 2 all world guys on his team while Wade will be playing with a diminishing Shaq and will likely put up even more ridiculous numbers than he did this year.

 

See, I don't think Nash will be much of a factor in next year's MVP voting for those reasons. 2 years ago, Marion wasn't as good as he has been this year. People will have much higher expectations for Marion next year. Amare will be recognized as a force next year, and not an up-and-comer like he was 2 years ago. Nash will be still be the glue for the team, but Marion and Amare will make the Suns look like a multi-headed monster. It'll be like a better version of Kidd, Carter, and Jefferson. Although, I do think it's impossible to speculate on next year's MVP, since we don't know what trades and FA signings will be made.

 

The only person who I think is being robbed of a little MVP talk is Sam Cassell. It's always Elton Brand this, Elton Brand that, Elton Brand hit me with a wiffle ball bat, or whatever. Brand's a GREAT player, but he's been great for years and hasn't done shit for the Clippers. Cassell is the veteran presence those young guys with lots of potential really needed.

[naiwf 0]

See, I don't think Nash will be much of a factor in next year's MVP voting for those reasons. 2 years ago, Marion wasn't as good as he has been this year. People will have much higher expectations for Marion next year. Amare will be recognized as a force next year, and not an up-and-comer like he was 2 years ago. Nash will be still be the glue for the team, but Marion and Amare will make the Suns look like a multi-headed monster. It'll be like a better version of Kidd, Carter, and Jefferson. Although, I do think it's impossible to speculate on next year's MVP, since we don't know what trades and FA signings will be made.

 

The only person who I think is being robbed of a little MVP talk is Sam Cassell. It's always Elton Brand this, Elton Brand that, Elton Brand hit me with a wiffle ball bat, or whatever. Brand's a GREAT player, but he's been great for years and hasn't done shit for the Clippers. Cassell is the veteran presence those young guys with lots of potential really needed.

 

I agree with the stuff about ET. The man deserves some kudos for helping the Clippers become a playoff contender, especially after being labelled a bit of a malcontent in his last stop. I do think that Brand however, is also vastly underrated by a significant portion of the media since there aren't too many guys capable of averaging 25-10-3, with 2.6 BPG and a steal too.

[alfdogg 0]

Brand's always been a great player, as has been said, the big reason the Clippers have become good now is because Sterling finally got off his ass and got some solid veteran players to put around him (and yes, Cassell deserves a lot of that credit, obviously). It's not that Brand wasn't doing anything for the Clippers, the Clippers weren't doing anything for Brand. Much similar to KG in Minnesota.