BUTT 0 Report post Posted March 21, 2006 Yeah Bob, but you aren't looking at the big picture. If Taker had lost to Orton, it would have ruined all of his heat and destroyed his ability to make the next generation of stars. Undertaker, he's a tippy-top guy. And tippy-top guys don't job. It doesn't make any sense! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Chris Xtreme Report post Posted March 21, 2006 Yea, I don't remember hearing that at all. I think Orton bloodying and beating the shit out of Taker at Armageddon would've worked wonders, just like Brock did. Its funny, I am in a debate with this guy at a non wrestling Message Board who thinks Orton is a great wrestler (and a over heel). He thinks that he should go on a long title run. Aparently Orton Vs Beniot was a match of the year canidate in 2004 ( he admits it wasn't the actual match of the year though). The match was good but not a classic. The guy seems intellegent and isn't being an ass about it. But I still find his opinion to be funny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted March 21, 2006 Yea, I don't remember hearing that at all. I think Orton bloodying and beating the shit out of Taker at Armageddon would've worked wonders, just like Brock did. Its funny, I am in a debate with this guy at a non wrestling Message Board who thinks Orton is a great wrestler (and a over heel). He thinks that he should go on a long title run. Aparently Orton Vs Beniot was a match of the year canidate in 2004 ( he admits it wasn't the actual match of the year though). The match was good but not a classic. The guy seems intellegent and isn't being an ass about it. But I still find his opinion to be funny. Benoit vs Orton from Raw the night after Summerslam was the match of the year in 2004 though I could see someone preferring Benoit vs Kane from Monday Night Raw. Orton bloodying up the Taker wouldn't have worked. Nobody would buy the pretty boy being able to do that to the 500 times tougher old grizzled veteran the Undertaker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted March 21, 2006 Yeah Bob, but you aren't looking at the big picture. If Taker had lost to Orton, it would have ruined all of his heat and destroyed his ability to make the next generation of stars. Undertaker, he's a tippy-top guy. And tippy-top guys don't job. It doesn't make any sense! Undertaker jobbed to Angle at the rescent NoWayOut PPV. Clean as a whistle. Screw all this talk of people wanting to job out the Undertaker 5 times a day from Monday to Friday and 10 times on Saturday. That's exactly what's wrong with the WWE today. Everybody is too even. Someone loses their heat and than they automatically get it back. We need wrestlers who are superior to other wrestlers. We need layers of superiority and I see no reason at all why the Undertaker shouldn't be at the very top of that list. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted March 21, 2006 Benoit vs Orton from Raw the night after Summerslam was the match of the year in 2004 though I could see someone preferring Benoit vs Kane from Monday Night Raw. Orton bloodying up the Taker wouldn't have worked. Nobody would buy the pretty boy being able to do that to the 500 times tougher old grizzled veteran the Undertaker. I thought the six-man elimination from Raw in June was, at least for Raw, the MOTY for 2004. And you're confusing bloodying up with beating up. All it takes is Orton to cheapshot Undertaker from behind, handcuff Undertaker to the top rope and then hit him in the head with a chair once or twice. Undertaker bleeds like crazy, which he can do, and Orton hits one last chair shot and Undertaker goes it. They can sell it as a combination of the chair shots and the huge loss of blood. Orton gets to lay out Undertaker and leave him a bloody mess, but doesn't overpower him to do so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted March 21, 2006 I can't see the overwhelming evidence that Anglesault is back. Please point it out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted March 21, 2006 We need layers of superiority and I see no reason at all why the Undertaker shouldn't be at the very top of that list. We need layers, but a 44-year old who is fragile and doesn't work a full schedule should not be at the very top of the list. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted March 21, 2006 I can't see the overwhelming evidence that Anglesault is back. Please point it out. Mention Test. It's him, believe you me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted March 21, 2006 We need layers of superiority and I see no reason at all why the Undertaker shouldn't be at the very top of that list. We need layers, but a 44-year old who is fragile and doesn't work a full schedule should not be at the very top of the list. Sure, Taker's fragile but he's tougher than a lot of other wrestlers and he can still go which is amazing considering he's supposed to be due for hip surgery which could possibly end his career. Why not have Taker at the top? The Undertaker's about the best thing going right now. He's got a mystique, he's got notsgolia, he's credible, he's still wrestling well, he has respect, he's got a great look, he is unique compared to the rest of the roster and from what I've seen of casual fans they almost all want the Taker to be just like he is. Invincable. The Taker is a special case and he's kind of a side show anyway. Let him be the man. Jobbing him out is just stupid. If Taker wasn't who he was would Angle vs Taker be as intriguing as it was? No, it wouln't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted March 21, 2006 I can see why you're on so many ignore lists. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted March 21, 2006 I can see why you're on so many ignore lists. Because I can see what the casual audience likes? Now seriously, would you really job the Taker out? I can't see him losing cleanly more than once a year otherwise his charactor is ruint and his ability to put anyone over which so much smarts want is gone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted March 21, 2006 Because I can see what the casual audience likes? Now seriously, would you really job the Taker out? I can't see him losing cleanly more than once a year otherwise his charactor is ruint and his ability to put anyone over which so much smarts want is gone. Because I can see what the casual audience likes? No, it's because you're a bit of clueless monkey. Now seriously, would you really job the Taker out? I can't see him losing cleanly more than once a year otherwise his charactor is ruint and his ability to put anyone over which so much smarts want is gone. Who said he had to be jobbed out? He just shouldn't be beating guys who shouldn't be beaten, especially by an old part-time wrestler. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tekcop 0 Report post Posted March 21, 2006 WP knows more about wrestling than HTQ ever will. Jesus, man, listen to yourself for once. How come everyone who disagrees with you is an idiot? But for the reason came here to post. Finlay vs. Rey was great and the finish was spectacular, but Benoit vs. Regal was very short and very dissapointing. Edit: Also, the spoilers don't even mention Orton doing Rey entrance to start the show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted March 21, 2006 Sure, Taker's fragile but he's tougher than a lot of other wrestlers and he can still go which is amazing considering he's supposed to be due for hip surgery which could possibly end his career. You admit he’s fragile and that he needs hip surgery, which is true, and you want him as a top guy? Does that make any sense? Why not have Taker at the top? The Undertaker's about the best thing going right now. He's got a mystique, he's got notsgolia, he's credible, he's still wrestling well, he has respect, he's got a great look, he is unique compared to the rest of the roster and from what I've seen of casual fans they almost all want the Taker to be just like he is. Invincable. The Taker is a special case and he's kind of a side show anyway. Let him be the man. Jobbing him out is just stupid. Great, he’s got a mystique. So what? It gets cancelled out by everything else. Nostalgia? Nostalgia only lasts for so long. Hulk Hogan had tons more nostalgia than Undertaker when they put the belt on him. Ratings for both show promptly fell a full point. He can wrestle well, but he wrestles well on a part-time schedule. No part-timer, unless he’s a super draw, which Undertaker isn’t, should be a top guy. A great look? He has a great entrance, I’ll give him that. Nothing is wrong with Undertaker being a special case, a side show type who does his thing a few times a year. But making him a top guy is insane. If Taker wasn't who he was would Angle vs Taker be as intriguing as it was? No, it wouln't. Doesn’t mean Undertaker should be a top guy, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted March 21, 2006 Because I can see what the casual audience likes? Now seriously, would you really job the Taker out? I can't see him losing cleanly more than once a year otherwise his charactor is ruint and his ability to put anyone over which so much smarts want is gone. Because I can see what the casual audience likes? No, it's because you're a bit of clueless monkey. Now seriously, would you really job the Taker out? I can't see him losing cleanly more than once a year otherwise his charactor is ruint and his ability to put anyone over which so much smarts want is gone. Who said he had to be jobbed out? He just shouldn't be beating guys who shouldn't be beaten, especially by an old part-time wrestler. The Taker is one of the only special guys left in the WWE anymore. He's legit, he feels real and some of that is actually due to his age. It is not a hindrance because as we can see by plainly watching our TV screen that the Taker is not Ric Flair in that he can still believably move. In today's land of bland, bland, bland and yet another dishing of bland on top of that the Taker sticks out. He's an essential part of the puzzle that is needed to keep the WWE alive and well. In wrestling you need a little bit of this and a little bit of that. Taker like it or not is part of that equation. Is the cost of having that part of the equation a hindrance on the overall product? Overall, especially if it's done right I say no. Really, there are very few people that should ever beat the Taker. There are no new guys that are ready (perhaps Lashley sometime in the future) and from the old guys I say it's only Angle, Benoit and Rey who should be allowed to get a duke over him. WP -- Wishes Taker would go down to ROH and squash everyone down there just to listen to the smarks outcry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted March 21, 2006 Sure, Taker's fragile but he's tougher than a lot of other wrestlers and he can still go which is amazing considering he's supposed to be due for hip surgery which could possibly end his career. You admit he’s fragile and that he needs hip surgery, which is true, and you want him as a top guy? Does that make any sense? Why not have Taker at the top? The Undertaker's about the best thing going right now. He's got a mystique, he's got notsgolia, he's credible, he's still wrestling well, he has respect, he's got a great look, he is unique compared to the rest of the roster and from what I've seen of casual fans they almost all want the Taker to be just like he is. Invincable. The Taker is a special case and he's kind of a side show anyway. Let him be the man. Jobbing him out is just stupid. Great, he’s got a mystique. So what? It gets cancelled out by everything else. Nostalgia? Nostalgia only lasts for so long. Hulk Hogan had tons more nostalgia than Undertaker when they put the belt on him. Ratings for both show promptly fell a full point. He can wrestle well, but he wrestles well on a part-time schedule. No part-timer, unless he’s a super draw, which Undertaker isn’t, should be a top guy. A great look? He has a great entrance, I’ll give him that. Nothing is wrong with Undertaker being a special case, a side show type who does his thing a few times a year. But making him a top guy is insane. If Taker wasn't who he was would Angle vs Taker be as intriguing as it was? No, it wouln't. Doesn’t mean Undertaker should be a top guy, Yeah, it makes sense to let him keep on going even if he has a bad hip. I remember years ago people saying that wrestlers should go over Benoit because of how injured he was and it was only a matter of time before he had to retire. Yet, Benoit's still there and some of those guys that "should've" beaten Benoit are gone. Man, I don't even know what I'm arguing anymore. That's what I'm kind of saying. Taker shouldn't necessarily run the company as champion or anything but he should always be at the top and always a threat. Kind of as a side attraction but not too, too much. To do that he has to be invincible or almost invincible. Yes, it's true that he hasn't been a top draw but there seem to be signs of that turning around. His DVD was apparantly from what I heard the best selling wrestling DVD of all time. I think he's having a little bit of a resurgence in popularity. Just going back to that equation thing again. Lots of us on this board thumb up are nose at the WWE storylines. Yet, we continue to watch and why is that? A lot of it is due to the possibility of watching an entertaining charactor or a great wrestling match. That keeps us hooked and lets us survive the junk that is constantly thrown in our faces by the WWE. The Undertaker even if he isn't the best draw ever does keep a lot of people hooked like that and that's why he has to stay strong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted March 21, 2006 Yeah, it makes sense to let him keep on going even if he has a bad hip. I remember years ago people saying that wrestlers should go over Benoit because of how injured he was and it was only a matter of time before he had to retire. Yet, Benoit's still there and some of those guys that "should've" beaten Benoit are gone. Benoit was ten years younger. Undertaker is ten years older and a lot more fragile and more likely than Benoit is, even now, to fall apart so bad he can’t come back. Man, I don't even know what I'm arguing anymore. That's what I'm kind of saying. Taker shouldn't necessarily run the company as champion or anything but he should always be at the top and always a threat. Kind of as a side attraction but not too, too much. To do that he has to be invincible or almost invincible. Yes, it's true that he hasn't been a top draw but there seem to be signs of that turning around. His DVD was apparantly from what I heard the best selling wrestling DVD of all time. I think he's having a little bit of a resurgence in popularity. If Undertaker is always meant to be at the top and a threat, what about when it comes time for the new guys to take his spot and help carry the company? That time is now. It’s his time to stop being a top guy and let someone new in his spot. As for his DVD selling huge, that’s great, but it was nostalgia. Nostalgia does not last and is not something to build around. Just going back to that equation thing again. Lots of us on this board thumb up are nose at the WWE storylines. Yet, we continue to watch and why is that? A lot of it is due to the possibility of watching an entertaining charactor or a great wrestling match. That keeps us hooked and lets us survive the junk that is constantly thrown in our faces by the WWE. The Undertaker even if he isn't the best draw ever does keep a lot of people hooked like that and that's why he has to stay strong. I’m all for Undertaker being kept strong, so it means something when he gets beaten, but it should not be at the expense of someone who could mean something and doesn’t need to be squashed, which is what usually happens with people Undertaker feuds with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted March 21, 2006 Yeah, it makes sense to let him keep on going even if he has a bad hip. I remember years ago people saying that wrestlers should go over Benoit because of how injured he was and it was only a matter of time before he had to retire. Yet, Benoit's still there and some of those guys that "should've" beaten Benoit are gone. Benoit was ten years younger. Undertaker is ten years older and a lot more fragile and more likely than Benoit is, even now, to fall apart so bad he can’t come back. Man, I don't even know what I'm arguing anymore. That's what I'm kind of saying. Taker shouldn't necessarily run the company as champion or anything but he should always be at the top and always a threat. Kind of as a side attraction but not too, too much. To do that he has to be invincible or almost invincible. Yes, it's true that he hasn't been a top draw but there seem to be signs of that turning around. His DVD was apparantly from what I heard the best selling wrestling DVD of all time. I think he's having a little bit of a resurgence in popularity. If Undertaker is always meant to be at the top and a threat, what about when it comes time for the new guys to take his spot and help carry the company? That time is now. It’s his time to stop being a top guy and let someone new in his spot. As for his DVD selling huge, that’s great, but it was nostalgia. Nostalgia does not last and is not something to build around. Just going back to that equation thing again. Lots of us on this board thumb up are nose at the WWE storylines. Yet, we continue to watch and why is that? A lot of it is due to the possibility of watching an entertaining charactor or a great wrestling match. That keeps us hooked and lets us survive the junk that is constantly thrown in our faces by the WWE. The Undertaker even if he isn't the best draw ever does keep a lot of people hooked like that and that's why he has to stay strong. I’m all for Undertaker being kept strong, so it means something when he gets beaten, but it should not be at the expense of someone who could mean something and doesn’t need to be squashed, which is what usually happens with people Undertaker feuds with. Yeah, I know Benoit's 10 years younger but I was trying to make a point about toughness. Undertaker's one of the toughest on the roster so that's why "it doesn't matter" if he has a bad hip. He can go and if he can go than there's no point in saying that he should be taken out into the street and shot. If he can wrestle than let him wrestle. If Undertaker is always meant to be at the top and a threat, what about when it comes time for the new guys to take his spot and help carry the company? You should listen to my working buddy who hates new guys coming in and beating the old guys. He says it's totally unrealistic. The newcomers taking over the older guys spots buisness is great thinking in a beautiful, perfect world but this is the problem many people don't see when they say this -- People say it so freaking often that if it actually happened as much as people wanted than we would never have a wrestling star. Every week (obvious exaggeration to make my point) or so it would be time to put over the next newest start. Nobody would get over because nobody would mean anything. Wrestling wouldn't even have a history. We would have no Hulk Hogan because Andre would've been losing left and right in 1982. We would have no Steve Austin because Bret Hart would've been jobbing left, right and centre the 2 years prior to their feud making new stars. Right now the Taker means a LOT and I don't think it's time for someone to convincingly get over on him. When that time comes it should be at the very end of his career and hopefully at a time where the Taker can still go somewhat. If Taker can build himself up and up (and I think his career has been revitalised the last couple of years compared to when he was the biker and annoying at times for certain reasons) than the payoff is going to be so huge if he totally puts someone over. It's just not time yet. Besides, there are only about 4 people on the Smackdown roster who could concievably beat him now anyway. No new guys are believable yet. Though to be honest I personally wouldn't mind Taker leaving with a legacy because that's what his charactor is all about. Sometimes it's good to leave the fans happy and those little things can add up. I'd probably have Taker lose on the way out if it was up to me though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Si82 0 Report post Posted March 21, 2006 You should listen to my working buddy who hates new guys coming in and beating the old guys. He says it's totally unrealistic. The newcomers taking over the older guys spots buisness is great thinking in a beautiful, perfect world but this is the problem many people don't see when they say this -- People say it so freaking often that if it actually happened as much as people wanted than we would never have a wrestling star. Every week (obvious exaggeration to make my point) or so it would be time to put over the next newest start. Nobody would get over because nobody would mean anything. Wrestling wouldn't even have a history. We would have no Hulk Hogan because Andre would've been losing left and right in 1982. We would have no Steve Austin because Bret Hart would've been jobbing left, right and centre the 2 years prior to their feud making new stars. Right now the Taker means a LOT and I don't think it's time for someone to convincingly get over on him. When that time comes it should be at the very end of his career and hopefully at a time where the Taker can still go somewhat. If Taker can build himself up and up (and I think his career has been revitalised the last couple of years compared to when he was the biker and annoying at times for certain reasons) than the payoff is going to be so huge if he totally puts someone over. It's just not time yet. Besides, there are only about 4 people on the Smackdown roster who could concievably beat him now anyway. No new guys are believable yet. What's unrealistic in my mind, is having the older guys go over the younger ones. It's terrible seeing the old guard go over the newer guys. This point was really driven gome for me at Unforgiven last year. Ric Flair going over Carlito, WTF? Honestly, as much of a legend Flair is he should not be going over younger guys for titles. Then you had Shawn Micheals going over Chris Masters while JR harps on about young guys taking the torch and not having it passed. How can young guys take the torch when they brough up to WWE with crappy gimmicks, made to wrestle the same generic style and booked to lose to the vetrans. It makes them look secnond rate. I'm not saying guys shoud be jobbing every week, like you seem to think this would entail, but they should be losing to guys, giving them the rub, and helping them ove up the card convincingly in the fans eyes. As for Taker, here is a guy who had everyone jobbing for him when he came to WWE. Snuka, Hogan, Roberts etc... All those guys and more lost to Taker and it helped get him over. When has Taker ever returned the favour to the younger guys? He never has and probably never will because he's simply too selfish and the new guys "don't know how to work" of course. Oh and when a guy needs a hip replacement, I would say it times to hang up the boots. It's funny that in any interview WWE guys will blast WCW for failing to push new talent when exactly the same thing is happening in WWE today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nl5xsk1 0 Report post Posted March 21, 2006 Yeah, I know Benoit's 10 years younger but I was trying to make a point about toughness. Undertaker's one of the toughest on the roster so that's why "it doesn't matter" if he has a bad hip. He can go and if he can go than there's no point in saying that he should be taken out into the street and shot. If he can wrestle than let him wrestle. Uhh, I don't know how to tell you this, WP. Wrestling's fake. Undertaker is "one of the toughest on the roster" because he's been booked to be one of the toughest on the roster, not because of any innate toughness. The "toughest" real thing that he's done is get SARA tattooed on his neck, because that would hurt like a son-of-a-bitch. But everything he's done in the ring ... it's predetermined. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted March 21, 2006 You should listen to my working buddy who hates new guys coming in and beating the old guys. He says it's totally unrealistic. The newcomers taking over the older guys spots buisness is great thinking in a beautiful, perfect world but this is the problem many people don't see when they say this -- People say it so freaking often that if it actually happened as much as people wanted than we would never have a wrestling star. Every week (obvious exaggeration to make my point) or so it would be time to put over the next newest start. Nobody would get over because nobody would mean anything. Wrestling wouldn't even have a history. We would have no Hulk Hogan because Andre would've been losing left and right in 1982. We would have no Steve Austin because Bret Hart would've been jobbing left, right and centre the 2 years prior to their feud making new stars. Right now the Taker means a LOT and I don't think it's time for someone to convincingly get over on him. When that time comes it should be at the very end of his career and hopefully at a time where the Taker can still go somewhat. If Taker can build himself up and up (and I think his career has been revitalised the last couple of years compared to when he was the biker and annoying at times for certain reasons) than the payoff is going to be so huge if he totally puts someone over. It's just not time yet. Besides, there are only about 4 people on the Smackdown roster who could concievably beat him now anyway. No new guys are believable yet. What's unrealistic in my mind, is having the older guys go over the younger ones. It's terrible seeing the old guard go over the newer guys. This point was really driven gome for me at Unforgiven last year. Ric Flair going over Carlito, WTF? Honestly, as much of a legend Flair is he should not be going over younger guys for titles. Then you had Shawn Micheals going over Chris Masters while JR harps on about young guys taking the torch and not having it passed. How can young guys take the torch when they brough up to WWE with crappy gimmicks, made to wrestle the same generic style and booked to lose to the vetrans. It makes them look secnond rate. I'm not saying guys shoud be jobbing every week, like you seem to think this would entail, but they should be losing to guys, giving them the rub, and helping them ove up the card convincingly in the fans eyes. As for Taker, here is a guy who had everyone jobbing for him when he came to WWE. Snuka, Hogan, Roberts etc... All those guys and more lost to Taker and it helped get him over. When has Taker ever returned the favour to the younger guys? He never has and probably never will because he's simply too selfish and the new guys "don't know how to work" of course. Oh and when a guy needs a hip replacement, I would say it times to hang up the boots. It's funny that in any interview WWE guys will blast WCW for failing to push new talent when exactly the same thing is happening in WWE today. Ric Flair should not even be in the ring. He is a danger to everyone involved and is an absolute disaster waiting to happen on national Tv. There's no way he should be going over Carlito. I agree even more than you do. See, his situation is totally different than it to Taker's situation. Michaels (considering all things to be considered at the moment) going over Masters at the current time is fine. Michaels say going over someone like Lashley would be a different scenario. How can young guys take the torch when they brough up to WWE with crappy gimmicks, made to wrestle the same generic style and booked to lose to the vetrans. It makes them look secnond rate Well yeah, that's one of the main problems the WWE has right now. They have essentially dug them themselves one very, very deep hole (with the bland wrestlers that they have brought up) that they're going to have a hard time digging themselves out of. The problem is they don't know they're digging a hole. I'm not saying guys shoud be jobbing every week, like you seem to think this would entail, but they should be losing to guys, giving them the rub, and helping them ove up the card convincingly in the fans eyes. No, I didn't entail that. I was making reference to the fact that on average if everyone were to job as often as the smarts wanted so new guys would be made this scenario is what would happen. So who are you going to have the Taker lose to over on Smackdown? How many guys are you going to have him put over and in how long a time span? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted March 21, 2006 Yeah, I know Benoit's 10 years younger but I was trying to make a point about toughness. Undertaker's one of the toughest on the roster so that's why "it doesn't matter" if he has a bad hip. He can go and if he can go than there's no point in saying that he should be taken out into the street and shot. If he can wrestle than let him wrestle. Uhh, I don't know how to tell you this, WP. Wrestling's fake. Undertaker is "one of the toughest on the roster" because he's been booked to be one of the toughest on the roster, not because of any innate toughness. The "toughest" real thing that he's done is get SARA tattooed on his neck, because that would hurt like a son-of-a-bitch. But everything he's done in the ring ... it's predetermined. You missed my point. Undertaker is one of the toughest on the roster. We're not talking about kayfabe inring toughness here. We're talking about real inring toughness. Stories have been cited. Ask Foley or ask whatever other wrestler you can find. That's not debatable. Taker has proven he can go when he's hurt and when he's hurt bad. The fact that many people don't notice is a testament to his toughness. You can rely on him once he's in that wrestling ring despite his wrestling age. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pochorenella 0 Report post Posted March 21, 2006 A bit more detailed spoilers from PWInsider.com: Just to add some color to what was reported earlier…Building was about 85% full…the very top on the upper level behind the announcers was tarped as was the seat in the upper level behind the cameras…rest of the house was packed. Matt Hardy defeats Vito in our dark match…crowd loved Matt. Then SmackDown! Begins. Randy Orton does a promo from the platform next to the entrance…running down Rey and Angle showing a clip of SNME, which was Rey pulling him of off Cena. Orton says he will be the next World Champ…because he doesn’t need flashy entrances or gold medals to prove how good he is…crowd was hot all through it. Then came the Last Chance Battle Royal…winner gets the final SmackDown slot in the Money in the Bank match at WM XXII. Last out was Road Warrior Animal…he had a mic and went off on GM Theodore Long saying he won his match against Matt Hardy “fair and square”…when he got to the ring everyone else ganged up on him and tossed him out first. Several eliminations later…we are left with Mercury, Nitro, Lashley, and Tatanka…MNM think they’ve eliminated Tatanka but it was through the top and 2nd rope…so he’s still in…the WWE tag champs double up on Lashley…eventually giving him the SnapShot…as they drag Bobby to the ropes for the elimination…Tatanka comes back in and saves the day…after he chops both repeatedly, he teams up with Lashley to battle MNM…after the two dominate for a short time…MNM looks like they are going to be put out but they save the day and force out the charging Tatanka, sending him over the top to the floor…now 3 remain…Lashley looks to be outnumber but takes control, eventually picking up Mercury with Nitro on the apron…throwing him into his partner…Nitro falls to the floor…but Mercury’s right foot gets caught in the top rope…Lashley untangles him…picks him up and throws him out…Melina and Nitro are quickly to his side along with the refs… Lashley is going to WrestleMania…the trainer is out to check on Mercury and he is OK and with assistance, heads to the back…Lashley follows and looks concerned…it was not how it was supposed to go. After a break…Krystal interviews JBL who cuts a promo on how Austin broke his nose at SNME and with his hand still hurt, he can’t take on Benoit tonight, but he has recruited William Regal to take his place here tonight. Mark Henry cuts a promo from the locker room saying the Undertaker took his title shot…hurt his manager Daivari, but he won’t win in their casket match at Mania…he is going to end the undefeated streak once and for all. Rey Mysterio next takes on Finlay…very good match…back and forth…several near pinfalls…just as Rey looks to hit his move from the top rope but Randy Orton comes out and RKOs him while he is in the air…awesome pop!...Finlay covers him for the win…Orton watches with a smirk as Finlay celebrates. Next up was the a contract signing for the match just added to WM XXII…Booker T vs. the Boogeyman…but Theodore Long has an addition….but Booker says he won’t sign…the GM says sign or be fired…so Booker does…Booker will have a partner in a handicap match…Sharmell!...they are not amused. After a break…it’s Chris Benoit out to face William Regal…JBL and Jillian Hall out in tow…short but very good match…JBL was not happy as Regal taps to the Crossface. Main event is last…Angle vs. Mark Henry…non-title…Angle avoids the big splash…then snaps and starts beating down the World’s Strongest Man…when the referee pulls him off…Angle starts to yell at him in the corner…Henry recovers and splashes both…with the ref out, Randy Orton returns…as he waits for Angle to get to his feet to give him an RKO…Rey Mysterio runs out, climbs to the top rope, going to for Orton but he gets Angle instead as Randy gets out of the way…Henry gets up and tosses Rey to the floor and Orton RKOs Angle…Henry gets the 1-2-3…Orton, back down the aisle smirks again…Rey and Angle face off in the ring…Kurt pushes Rey down…and we have a 3 way stare down…Henry gets a nod from Orton as he leaves. Angle gets the belt from the ref and shows it to the crowd and gets a big pop. That RKO on Rey sounds cool. Only one more SD! until Mania and MNM still have no match. What are you waiting for, WWE? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MillenniumMan831 0 Report post Posted March 21, 2006 They'll get thrown into the casket w/ Henry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Si82 0 Report post Posted March 21, 2006 So who are you going to have the Taker lose to over on Smackdown? How many guys are you going to have him put over and in how long a time span? Taker should be used to put over guys that the WWE plans to give the big push to. Take Orton, I personally don't like the guy but WWE is high on him. So why not have him go over Taker instead of jobbing to him in the last match of their feud. Beating a guy like Taker, clean, would do a young workers career the world of good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dam(o)nYankees Report post Posted March 21, 2006 Only one more SD! until Mania and MNM still have no match. What are you waiting for, WWE? I don't want them to have a match at this point. Let them show up in the Undertaker match or something. I don't see them to take 8 minutes away from one of the other matches to have a heatless tag match for the sake of having a heatless tag match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Princess Leena Report post Posted March 21, 2006 I can't see the overwhelming evidence that Anglesault is back. Please point it out. Mention Test. It's him, believe you me. I keep mentioning my love of TEST~!. But, he no-sells it. I'm sure we'll drag the entire AS out when the Yankees start losing regular season games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theintensifier 0 Report post Posted March 21, 2006 Benoit vs Orton from Raw the night after Summerslam was the match of the year in 2004 though I could see someone preferring Benoit vs Kane from Monday Night Raw. I hope your joking, seriously hope you're jokin here.......Benoit / Michaels from 2/04 and then 5/04 would prrobably get my vote for Raw MOTY. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nl5xsk1 0 Report post Posted March 21, 2006 I'm sure we'll drag the entire AS out when the Yankees start losing regular season games. Yeah, a loss in game 1 will be enough to bring the 'sault back in DY. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cabbageboy 0 Report post Posted March 21, 2006 Let's cut to the chase here about something. The theory is that UT needs to put people over. The thing is...who exactly? If you look at that SD roster I'm not sure exactly who is worth jobbing UT out to. I might say Lashley in a year or so but not right now (he's getting a rub from another grizzled veteran, Fit Finlay). And the fact remains that Orton simply isn't worth salvaging at this point. When there is literally nothing a guy can do to get over, not even badmouthing a much loved and deceased star, then it's time to give up. HHH killed the guy's heat and credibility, so just give up and move on and push some other untalented 6 ft. 5 OVW trainee. I mean Orton is the very definition of a guy who 10 years ago would have been released if for nothing else to save his own career. If there was a WCW I can assure you he'd have gone there after the one-two punch of HHH and UT both burying him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites