The OAO "Who's Actually Excited" thread

[Lord of The Curry 0]

Why does that Estrada fuckass squint so much?

[razazteca 0]

Its hard to get excited about Umaga because, good worker or no, he's playing such a blatently retarded gimmick.

 

Hes not going to cut any money promos, he's not going to have any interesting matches, the way things are going.

Who cares about Umaga, the real star is his manager Estrada.

 

Why does that Estrada fuckass squint so much?

That is what red-faced drunks do?

[k thx 0]

I enjoy Raw. It doesn't offend me and it's better than watching nothing (which is the alternative). It has some good workers, there are some decent storylines, I'm intrigued as to what will happen next week. I'm excited at the thought of Ken Doane getting a push further down the line, I'm excited at Albright getting TV time, I'm excited that ECW and DX look to be coming back which will shake things up a bit, I'm excited that WWE doesn't have a set plan and that, better or worse, anything could happen in the next few months.

 

Now, if that makes me an idiot, so be it. I'll hapily watch TNA, Japanese or US Indie stuff. But WWE is a regular weekly fix and has more, if not neccesarily better, things going on than the other promotions. It's not the best promotion in the world, but it's the one which is easiest to see and gets most time so why not watch it, and if watching it, why not enjoy what your seeing? WWE is built for marks, so why not just suspend beleif and watch it as it's meant to be watched without thinking about logic gaps or backstage politics.

[pochorenella 0]

Fuck. Why do people have to start silly fucking threads like these?

 

Yet you post like 20 times on on said silly thread. Wonderful.

 

I'm excited for the WWE product right now because it seems uncertain but in a rather good way. It has that "anything can happen" vibe that WWE proclaims so much, but now it's actually true in the good sense because there are many wonderful possibilities with everything that's happening. The ECW revival could mean great things if it's handled the right way and by the right people. Of course, WWE's track record is not the greatest when it comes to "Invasions" or things of the like, but I'm willing to give them a chance. The teased DX reunion is an added bonus. The live crowds seem to be liking this, and if it means a couple of new guys get the rub a-la Evolution then fine by me. Why people need to shit on everything WWE does without even letting them do it in the first place is just beyond me, but whatever makes your day.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

Why people need to shit on everything WWE does without even letting them do it in the first place is just beyond me, but whatever makes your day.

After almost ten years where there have been far more misses than hits, it's tough to really get excited when the odds are WWE will find some way to screw things up. After a while, even the staunchest fan gets disillusioned.

[Carnival 0]

While I understand being pessimistic about WWE's ideas, cuz I am too. But why people feel the need to insult someone who is optimistic about an upcoming event is beyond me.

[NoCalMike 0]

To say I am not semi-excited would be a lie, however when I stop and really think about it, I think I am more excited at the POSSIBILITIES that lie ahead for the future, rather then the outcomes that will most likely come of it.

[k thx 0]

Why people need to shit on everything WWE does without even letting them do it in the first place is just beyond me, but whatever makes your day.

After almost ten years where there have been far more misses than hits, it's tough to really get excited when the odds are WWE will find some way to screw things up. After a while, even the staunchest fan gets disillusioned.

Oh poor little disillusioned you.

 

At the end of the day, if you want to watch WWE watch it. If you feel let down and disillusioned and don't want to watch it, don't. If you feel dissillusioned and dislike the product but watch it anyway, then don't bitch about it because you know it's not for you.

 

If you go into things with the attitude of they're gonna fuck it up, however true that may be, you won't enjoy it because you'll be waiting for it to fail, you wont be thinking about the match and if they do something well, you wont appreciate it as much because you'll still be waiting for them to fuck it up.

 

WWE is Sports Entertainment. They don't do things the smarks agree with, but that's because the people on this board aren't their target audience. Either watch it as a fan or don't watch it at all.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

At the end of the day, if you want to watch WWE watch it. If you feel let down and disillusioned and don't want to watch it, don't. If you feel dissillusioned and dislike the product but watch it anyway, then don't bitch about it because you know it's not for you.

 

I stopped wanting to watch WWE when it became clear that, no matter, what happened, things would revolve around Hunter or Vince in some form on Raw, and whatever Smackdown did would always be positioned as secondary. I stuck with WWE, at least Raw, for longer than I thought I would, but eventually the drive to watch it got sapped away.

 

If you go into things with the attitude of they're gonna fuck it up, however true that may be, you won't enjoy it because you'll be waiting for it to fail, you wont be thinking about the match and if they do something well, you wont appreciate it as much because you'll still be waiting for them to fuck it up.

 

It's not an attitude but a feeling that, at any moment, the ceiling is going to cave in. When I did watch WWE with any seriousness I didn't wait for things to fail, and I did want them to succeed, but at the same time I always had the feeling in the back of my mind that things would fall apart because WWE had a track record of doing so. I was still able to enjoy a lot of the things they did right, but eventually the number of things they screwed up got so numerous that it was too much trouble to stick with it and I walked away.

 

WWE is Sports Entertainment. They don't do things the smarks agree with, but that's because the people on this board aren't their target audience. Either watch it as a fan or don't watch it at all.

 

WWE don't do things a lot of people don't agree with, not just 'smarks', but regular casual fans too. As for people on this board not being their target audience, a lot of people on here want to be their target audience, and would probably watch WWE if they promoted a quality product that WWE, with all their resources, have no real excuses not to deliver.

[Guest hasbeen]

Do some of your TV's lack an on/off switch?

[Kahran Ramsus 0]

Do some of your TV's lack an on/off switch?

 

Yes. That's the problem. WWE needs us more than we need them, even though they don't realize it. I'm happier watching football or 24 than RAW, so that's what I do, and it is a choice that millions of others make too. The problem is that the company would rather ignore (or blame) the fans for their problems rather than putting on a product that the fans would actually watch. If the McMahons want a vanity product on television, that's their choice, but then don't go bitching about it when nobody wants to watch it.

[Guest hasbeen]

Either way, the bitching is useless and some of it is nonsense. Write well written, non insulting emails to the people in charge if you want to write something.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

Either way, the bitching is useless and some of it is nonsense. Write well written, non insulting emails to the people in charge if you want to write something.

Writing emails to anyone in charge at WWE is just as useless. At least something written here will get a response and might generate discussion.

[Guest hasbeen]

It's not always useless.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

It's not always useless.

True. There's always a chance you might get back a form email from Todd Grisham.

[Guest hasbeen]

You might be surprised.

[Promoter 0]

It's hard to get excited about anything WWE tries to do because they so rarely get things right, and even when they do get things right, more often than not the usual egos get in the way and cut things off at the knees. If you've been a fan for 5 years and you're still getting excited, good for you. But don't expect sympathy if you get let down, as you probably will be, because WWE screw things up so much that you really should have seen it coming. Maybe if WWE go through a period with more hits than misses, then more people will feel able to get excited again, but that is unlikely to happen for all the obvious reasons.

 

 

Agree completely. I just hope this time they can actually capitalize. There is some good going on. For how long and when will Vince stop hogging spotlight time from his stars is the real question.

[Guest]

There's not going to be another boom period as long as the brands are split. As long as there are two separate rosters, anything can't happen in the WWF. RAW has been pretty good as of late at creating "shades of gray" characters and chaos on the show. But that excitement will quickly fade once they've exhausted all feud and match possibilities. They could have the best roster of all-time, and they are throwing it away.

 

When was the last time they had a war between two really big stables? That's always been a staple of a boom period.

This is something I need to address and that has been overlooked.

 

There will never be another boom period. EVER. They have lost this current generation, and their kids won't watch either. I feel that when a generation is lost, it's going to be extremely hard to get it back (we can look at the NHL as an example, if we want to).

 

Wrestling is now a niche thing. That's it. Walk up to some random person and ask them about wrestling and they'll laugh right in your face, even if they watched 3-5 years ago. Compare that to the buzz in 1998, even if we agree or disagree that the matches weren't good. The company needs the marks if they want to succeed. The marks are going away quickly.

[Jaxxson Mayhem 0]

It's not always useless.

True. There's always a chance you might get back a form email from Todd Grisham.

 

 

HAHA...

 

 

Does he really check this?

[NoCalMike 0]

Gawd, I remember being a Senior in highschool and one mention of Raw or Nitro would captivate almost the entire classroom full of students.

 

Without Another Major player in the Mainstream North American Wrestling scene that is not only on TV, but can actually challenege and steal wrestlers from WWE, I mean major guys.......Wrestling will never be like it was. EVER.

[benoit4hor 0]

I'd find it hard to be entertained by RAW too, if I spent Monday Nights on this board, trying to come up with something witty every other minute during the show.

 

But hey it makes for an entertaining read Tuesday morning.

[Downhome 0]

My hard drives were dead Sunday night, so I watched the PPV just as I used to. No checking online to see what people thought, none of that shit. Just me and a few people watching the show. I enjoyed the show for the most part, other than a few stupid things here and there (Kane shit, Eugene/Striker), and I was actually shocked that so many people hated the PPV.

[Ginger Snaps 0]

While I understand being pessimistic about WWE's ideas, cuz I am too. But why people feel the need to insult someone who is optimistic about an upcoming event is beyond me.

 

Some people are just sad and bitter about certain aspects of their own lives.

 

Such as the fact that Fedor Emalianenko will never show up at their doorstep and beg to fuck them up the ass, no matter how much they secretly want him too.

[reign 0]

So after catching the last 40 minutes or so of Raw Monday night and reading two interesting reads on the Old School thread on 1995 and 1996 I kinda felt like a fan again. I felt that finally Raw has given me something to be interested in...that "anything might happen" feeling that a few of you have brought up...and I find that the usual TSM elite have definately weighed in on this subject matter. Interesting but not at all suprising thoughts by Rudo and Curry and I can't disagree with most of what they said but I also can't deny that I'm keeping my hopes up. I guess if were up to them TSM would just close down the whole WWE portion of this site since the product causes them so much irritation. Judging by the ferocity and quickness of their responses, apparently posting about anything positive regarding WWE is the eqivalent of shoving a salt rock down their pee-hole.

 

I have yet to see CM Punk but I have heard great things and with Heyman's booking we could see some really good stuff. Does Punk work as a heel? It looks as though RVD will be the uber face so I am wondering if CM Punk will be built as the top heel. He sounds like the kind of guy that would fit into a new DX but I'd rather see him with Heyman.

 

Someone mentioned that there hasn't been a big stable vs stable angle in a while. Some might say Team Angle II vs JBL's Cabinet was the last but that sucked. I am looking forward to seeing a new DX working against the Spririt Squad. If HHH and Michaels can work together to put those guys over and make them the new stars then have at it. While this is going on Edge can feud with Cena over the title.

 

The last thing I want to see is Cena working with DX although if Vince is keeping him face that might be the only way to get him over. Then again people are having way too much fun booing his ass out of the building. Yet another reason why I like to watch.

[benn 0]

To say I am not semi-excited would be a lie, however when I stop and really think about it, I think I am more excited at the POSSIBILITIES that lie ahead for the future, rather then the outcomes that will most likely come of it.

Agree 100%.

[King Cucaracha 0]

I've fallen into 'Train Wreck' mode. I've given up on expecting RAW to be 'good' good and I can get 'good' good wrestling elsewhere, so I'm happy to watch RAW for the 'so bad it's' good. That way, if there's a good match it comes as somewhat of a pleasant surprise. If not, at least my low expectations allow me to enjoy the goofy gimmicks and 'so bad they're' good skits with Vince.

 

Smackdown's been better recently, but the low expectations are the only thing getting me through The Great Khali and were the only thing getting me through The Boogeyman.

 

 

I don't know if that as 'excited' though.

[JustJoe2k5 0]

I've fallen into 'Train Wreck' mode. I've given up on expecting RAW to be 'good' good and I can get 'good' good wrestling elsewhere, so I'm happy to watch RAW for the 'so bad it's' good. That way, if there's a good match it comes as somewhat of a pleasant surprise. If not, at least my low expectations allow me to enjoy the goofy gimmicks and 'so bad they're' good skits with Vince.

 

Smackdown's been better recently, but the low expectations are the only thing getting me through The Great Khali and were the only thing getting me through The Boogeyman.

 

 

I don't know if that as 'excited' though.

 

I could do that, but the show is so terrible that I can't even force myself to watch it in the first place. Doesn't help that every time I switch to the USA Network to see what's happening Vince McMahon is ALWAYS on the screen.

[Guest Hadley]

Well, at least theyre still making quality dvds (im looking forward to the dusty rhodes, brian pillman, and awa dvds).

[EricMM 0]

Can Punk play heel?

 

See: Punk holding the ROH title hostage.

[billdynamite 0]

I've seen Punk in a few Indy matches... meh, he's really not THAT amazing.