OAO Raw Thread - June/5th/06.

[WrestlingFan4Ever 0]

Well, at least I haven't seen Sandman-Big Show before so it could be an interesting dynamic.

[razazteca 0]

So without telling me any spoilers, how was the show tonight?

Asscial

[goldengreek 0]

Also from PWI:

 

WWE is reporting that both Lilian Garcia and Beth Phoenix were hurt at tonight's Raw. Garcia took a nasty bump off of the ring when Charlie Haas ran into the ring and bumped her off of the apron. WWE is saying she suffered a sprained wrist and is being taken to a hospital for X-rays. Phoenix suffered what is being called by WWE.com a "fractured mandible" when Victoria hit her and will need oral surgery.

Ill give her "oral" surgery

[Conspiracy_Victim 0]

According to PWI, Big Show v Sandman has been added to the PPV

That could be watchable. Big Show's usually pretty good in hardcore matches.

 

No sells a bunch of cane shots, picks up a win. Then they go out drinking. Hilarity ensues.

[Guest Princess Leena]

Fractured jaw? Not good. Poor Beth.

 

They might as well kill off the women's division now.

[Open the Muggy Gate 0]

HAAS OF FIRE!

[Downhome 0]

Also from PWI:

 

WWE is reporting that both Lilian Garcia and Beth Phoenix were hurt at tonight's Raw. Garcia took a nasty bump off of the ring when Charlie Haas ran into the ring and bumped her off of the apron. WWE is saying she suffered a sprained wrist and is being taken to a hospital for X-rays. Phoenix suffered what is being called by WWE.com a "fractured mandible" when Victoria hit her and will need oral surgery.

Ill give her "oral" surgery

 

Why the quotes? Do you mean you'll stick it in her ear instead?

[The Amazing Rando 0]

man, that was NASTY.

[goldengreek 0]

Since they are mixing and matching, they could have had a great "hardcore" TLC match with shelton, hardy, the mexicools, AWESOME, and whichever old ecw cruisers they have signed

[Guest Princess Leena]

Hehe, good job Charlie.

[CanadianChris 0]

HAAS OF FIRE!

I missed it the first time around...she's lucky if she's only got a sprained wrist, from what I saw of it. She could have landed on her head, easy.

[goldengreek 0]

Also from PWI:

 

WWE is reporting that both Lilian Garcia and Beth Phoenix were hurt at tonight's Raw. Garcia took a nasty bump off of the ring when Charlie Haas ran into the ring and bumped her off of the apron. WWE is saying she suffered a sprained wrist and is being taken to a hospital for X-rays. Phoenix suffered what is being called by WWE.com a "fractured mandible" when Victoria hit her and will need oral surgery.

Ill give her "oral" surgery

 

Why the quotes? Do you mean you'll stick it in her ear instead?

I'm greek so in her ass it goes

[cabbageboy 0]

That had to be one of the worst Raws in history. I'm not one who usually tosses around phrases like that, but man this show was horrid. Not only was most of it forgettable, but what important stuff they did was insanely counter productive. Shall we review:

 

--ECW's guys are effectively heels now, having all attacked John Cena. And then they ran like cowards when the WWE guys came out. This just blew my mind. I could see a huge fight with everyone involved and they go to break, then come back saying "During the break we got things under control."

 

--They have practically advertised that RVD has to win the WWE title and rename it the ECW title at the PPV. If he doesn't, he's going to look like the biggest joke on earth. As we saw tonight, he's going to have any number of guys to run in on his behalf. I mean seriously, Rob, if they job you out at THIS show you might as well take a gun and stick it to your head, cause it's over.

 

--Fucking RANDY ORTON on an ECW PPV????? Randy FUCKING Orton on One Night Stand???? Why in the name of god did anyone think this was a good idea? I don't even care that Angle is going to squash him like a bug again. They couldn't get somebody more worthwhile for this Angle Challenge? I'll bet anyone here that Orton will be the lone WWE guy that draws zero heat from the rabid crowd. He's that shitty and heatless. Honestly, it kills my will to watch the PPV.

 

--As an aside is there any actual ECW on this ECW PPV? I warned everyone last week when Angle was the draft pick that it was just the Alliance redux, with WWE guys defecting and ultimately ECW won't have any real identity.

 

--Why are they not hyping the fact that ECW is going to be on TV starting NEXT WEEK? I'd think that is kinda important. They haven't mentioned this much at all, when it's the sort of thing you need to hammer into people for a month at least.

 

--Lastly, why is this shit with HHH and Vince main eventing Raw? There can't possibly be anyone on earth who seriously cares about this at all, yet here it is week after week being the focus of Raw while they have an actual PPV to promote.

 

Seriously, what does it say when they took the most obvious no brainer megahit PPV in ONS and have now made me so disgusted that I am considering not even getting the PPV?

[Open the Muggy Gate 0]

I just watched the video once again and just laughed my ass off at the fact he kills her, bounces off again, and poses like it was nothing. God Bless Charlie Haas.... he's so fired.

[The Amazing Rando 0]

I just watched the video once again and just laughed my ass off at the fact he kills her, bounces off again, and poses like it was nothing. God Bless Charlie Haas.... he's so fired.

 

Again, total accident. If anything, they won't dim the lights for his entrance anymore. I remember this incident with a guy named D'Lo Brown... I don't exactly remember him being fired.

[Enigma 0]

Charlie Haas just got himself a ticket to indefinite Heat duty.

[UZI Suicide 0]

I can live with Angle-Orton if it is booked like this

 

*Bell rings*

 

*Angle ducks a punch*

 

*Angle slam*

 

*Ankle Lock*

 

*Tap Out*

[Hawk 34 0]

I just watched the video once again and just laughed my ass off at the fact he kills her, bounces off again, and poses like it was nothing. God Bless Charlie Haas.... he's so fired.

 

Again, total accident. If anything, they won't dim the lights for his entrance anymore. I remember this incident with a guy named D'Lo Brown... I don't exactly remember him being fired.

 

I'm thinking Haas will change his Ultimate Warrior entrance now.

[goldengreek 0]

That had to be one of the worst Raws in history. I'm not one who usually tosses around phrases like that, but man this show was horrid. Not only was most of it forgettable, but what important stuff they did was insanely counter productive. Shall we review:

 

--ECW's guys are effectively heels now, having all attacked John Cena. And then they ran like cowards when the WWE guys came out. This just blew my mind. I could see a huge fight with everyone involved and they go to break, then come back saying "During the break we got things under control."

 

--They have practically advertised that RVD has to win the WWE title and rename it the ECW title at the PPV. If he doesn't, he's going to look like the biggest joke on earth. As we saw tonight, he's going to have any number of guys to run in on his behalf. I mean seriously, Rob, if they job you out at THIS show you might as well take a gun and stick it to your head, cause it's over.

 

--Fucking RANDY ORTON on an ECW PPV????? Randy FUCKING Orton on One Night Stand???? Why in the name of god did anyone think this was a good idea? I don't even care that Angle is going to squash him like a bug again. They couldn't get somebody more worthwhile for this Angle Challenge? I'll bet anyone here that Orton will be the lone WWE guy that draws zero heat from the rabid crowd. He's that shitty and heatless. Honestly, it kills my will to watch the PPV.

 

--As an aside is there any actual ECW on this ECW PPV? I warned everyone last week when Angle was the draft pick that it was just the Alliance redux, with WWE guys defecting and ultimately ECW won't have any real identity.

 

--Why are they not hyping the fact that ECW is going to be on TV starting NEXT WEEK? I'd think that is kinda important. They haven't mentioned this much at all, when it's the sort of thing you need to hammer into people for a month at least.

 

--Lastly, why is this shit with HHH and Vince main eventing Raw? There can't possibly be anyone on earth who seriously cares about this at all, yet here it is week after week being the focus of Raw while they have an actual PPV to promote.

 

Seriously, what does it say when they took the most obvious no brainer megahit PPV in ONS and have now made me so disgusted that I am considering not even getting the PPV?

I concur

[Ravenbomb 0]

God Bless Charlie Haas.... he's so fired.

 

Heh, yeah. Mark Henry: Injures a couple wrestlers, continues main event push. Charlie Haas: Injures someone who could possibly do their job with a broken limb, demoted to Heat then fired

[cabbageboy 0]

You don't get my point. I don't care if Angle just squashes Orton. It's the mere fact that Orton is ON the PPV. Isn't he still supposed to be suspended for another week? What, did they have to rush him back because there was no one else who could go in and get killed by Angle?

 

The problem with doing all these lame WWE vs. ECW matches for the PPV is that some of these WWE guys will have to go over, and it'll just serve to infuriate the crowd. Or worse just kill the crowd.

[Downhome 0]

Alright, here we go:

 

[The Niggardly King 0]

Charlie Haas brought the best "What the fuck just happened??!!" moment of the week.

[Guest Princess Leena]

You don't get my point. I don't care if Angle just squashes Orton. It's the mere fact that Orton is ON the PPV. Isn't he still supposed to be suspended for another week? What, did they have to rush him back because there was no one else who could go in and get killed by Angle?

 

The problem with doing all these lame WWE vs. ECW matches for the PPV is that some of these WWE guys will have to go over, and it'll just serve to infuriate the crowd. Or worse just kill the crowd.

 

Randall's suspension was announced like a day or so after WM... so, I guess that's when it started.

 

And even though I love Randy, it's fucking stupid having him at ONS.

 

I hope the fans there promptly shit all over the match.

 

And my Randy is gonna lose another PPV match, for basically no reason.

[cabbageboy 0]

As I said, I don't think he'll even draw any heat. He's going to be the one lone WWE guy who has zero heat. I wonder what that would say to WWE management?

[Exslade ZX 0]

Awww man, it's so horrible, but I've been laughing my ass off at the Lillian thing for like the last 10 minutes. I taped RAw, and its so fucked up because you can just hear her wailing for like the next 10 seconds.

 

And yet somehow, when he first bounced off it was like charlie didn't even notice/feel her at all

[Ravenbomb 0]

But then again, since ECW is returning full-time there is really no need for another nostalgia PPV featuring a bunch of one off matches that don't mean anything in the grand scheme of things.

 

ONS is set up to be the kickstart for the ECW brand.

 

Which is actually kindof a cool dynamic. 1NS was about old ECW, 2NS is about new ECW. But all the ECW vs. WWE stuff kinda drags it down a bit if there's no regular ECW matches

[The Niggardly King 0]

Umaga's music playing over the KMA graphic was AWESOME...and it now shoud be the music played for the "unveiling"

 

Yeah, that was fantastic...

[Danville_Wrestling 0]

I bet Charlie has to feel terrible right now and I hope he doesn't catch too much shit for this from the front office because it was a simple accident. That said Lillian is very lucky all she got was a sprained wrist.

 

This ECW PPV is very confusing to me. You've got the WWE vs. ECW show on Wednesday and then you've basically got WWE vs. ECW matches on the pay-per-view. What's the difference? Last year's ONS is shaping up much better than this year's and I just don't see how they are going to book themselves out of killing the crowd in six days when you potentially have RVD and Sabu jobbed out to Cena and Rey. However, they'll probably have RVD win and then have it overturned later just so Cena doesn't get killed.

 

Nice to see Raw becoming the HHH show once again. I was sick of seeing him in the first hour and it just didn't stop. I don't hate HHH but when you appear 5+ times on the show it really wears on the fans not to mention the crowd.

 

Very uneventful Raw except for the whole Lillian deal.

[Downhome 0]

Since it's going to be done anyway, what the hell:

 

http://lillianfalls.ytmnd.com/