Guest asher66 Report post Posted August 6, 2006 Boxing's Heavyweight division looks like a wasteland these days. John Ruiz is still hanging around, Evander Holyfield refuses to face reality, and a 7 ft. Russian sideshow holds a world title. In there any hope on the horizon for fans of the big men, or are boxing fans in for several more years of Heavyweight futility? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt. Al Giardello 0 Report post Posted August 6, 2006 A Rahman/Maskaev winner Vs. Klitschko fight would help the HW divison greatly. Calvin Brock looks like a great prospect, I think he has a good future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Report post Posted August 6, 2006 It would help if the top heavyweights fought on some sort of semi-regular basis. When you're thinking that there might be a big fight a year down the line, and there might not even be one then, it's pretty hard to get interested. And no, Klitschko or Ruiz versus a jobber doesn't count as a big fight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Danville_Wrestling 0 Report post Posted August 6, 2006 How is anyone gonna beat that 7 foot Russian guy anyway? I'm no boxing expert and my interest has waned in recent years but that guy is ridiculous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt. Al Giardello 0 Report post Posted August 6, 2006 How is anyone gonna beat that 7 foot Russian guy anyway? I'm no boxing expert and my interest has waned in recent years but that guy is ridiculous. He's horrible. John Ruiz and Larry Donald both got robbed in the desicions against him. He's going to get his ass kicked if he fights a Top 10 HW. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted August 6, 2006 I thought Samuel Peter was going to be a sure thing. Honestly, John Ruiz makes me not want to watch boxing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt. Al Giardello 0 Report post Posted August 6, 2006 I thought Samuel Peter was going to be a sure thing. Honestly, John Ruiz makes me not want to watch boxing. Peter could still be a great fighter. He's fighting James Toney soon, and I really think he has a good chance to KO him. His only lost is to Wladimir Klitschko, in a fight where Peter knocked him down 3 times. So don't count him out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted August 8, 2006 James Toney knocked out? I doubt it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt. Al Giardello 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2006 James Toney knocked out? I doubt it. James Toney doesn't have the desire to box anymore, and is only fighting for a paychecks, which explains why he's been out of shape his last few fights. Peter certainly has the power to knock anyone out in the divison, but the question is can he land a solid punch on Toney. Who knows, anything can happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2006 Toney's been out of shape for over a decade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt. Al Giardello 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2006 Toney's been out of shape for over a decade. But not as bad as he has for years. He's enterting in at almost 240 pounds, it seems like he doesn't even care about winning. If he comes in anything past 235, I wouldn't be suprised if Peter won. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2006 One problem is that Don King wants a HW tournament, but only for fighters he has under his umbrella. For awhile he seemed open to the winner of his tounry taking on Klitscho but who knows now. I know one problem is that too many heavyweight title bouts get put on PPV simply because they are title fights, and people are just not going to pay that kind of money to see guys they don't believe in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted August 13, 2006 Goodbye Hasim Rahman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt. Al Giardello 0 Report post Posted August 13, 2006 Looks like if Calvin Brock isn't the real deal, US Heavyweight boxing is going to be fucked for awhile. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted August 13, 2006 Goodbye Hasim Rahman. I thought Rock would get knocked out in the 9th. I don't know who would pay for that PPV. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted August 14, 2006 Samuel Peter vs. James Toney on Showtime Sept. 2nd. Most people are picking Toney to win, fighting on the inside, thinking he is too crafty...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted August 14, 2006 That's going to be a very interesting fight. I think it might be during one of Showtime's free preview weekends too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted August 15, 2006 Samuel Peter vs. James Toney on Showtime Sept. 2nd. Most people are picking Toney to win, fighting on the inside, thinking he is too crafty...... I'm picking him too. Peter's primarily a power puncher, and there's no heavyweight currently active that's better at avoiding big shots with subtle things like shoulder movement and rolling his neck. He has him beat by miles in experience, and prepares phenomenally well mentally. Also, he's one of the best in the world at fighting while fatigued, so even if Peter does land some good bombs or work the body extensively, Toney's still dangerous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Lushus 0 Report post Posted August 15, 2006 I lost interest in the Heavyweight division when Klitschko lost to Lewis because of his busted eye. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted August 15, 2006 I think it might be during one of Showtime's free preview weekends too. It's not, but Corrales vs Casamayor III is on a free preview weekend in October. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted August 15, 2006 I lost interest in the Heavyweight division when Klitschko lost to Lewis because of his busted eye. I watched that fight again after the fact. Initially, I was pretty pissed because I thought the stoppage totally saved Lewis, but realistically, Klitschko was starting to take a LOT of punishment on that side of his face due to the blood-spewing gash. Lewis eventually would've stopped him anyway, I think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted August 16, 2006 Plus, I thought it was a pretty fun fight while it lasted. I wonder if Vitali's wondering why the hell he retired rather than fight Rahman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt. Al Giardello 0 Report post Posted August 16, 2006 Even if Toney wins, I can't see him becoming a champion. He lost his chance when he tested positive after the Ruiz fight. Barrett is facing the sideshow Valuev in the fall. Hopefully he gets rid of this clown for good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
