OAO Raw Thread - August/14th/2006.

[Conspiracy_Victim 0]

That still wasn't Hogan's worst moment. Hogan not able to start Undertaker's bike still takes the cake.

 

 

Hogan being dragged through the back on Taker's bike was funny as well. As he crashed into some empty cardboard boxes.

 

 

Hogan took the worst Taker chokeslam ever also. Damn when Hogan and Taker get together its guaranteed garbage.

 

That's gotta say something about you when freakin' Khali can take a better chokeslam than you do.

[skullman80 0]

I think you guys are reading a bit much into the dead crowd for Hogan. First off, Orton totally killed the crowd with his yawn inducing promo (note the sign: Orton is boring). Second, they already played the music for the fake Hogan. I'd say the crowd assumed it was another joke Hogan, like a midget or something and thus didn't react. That said, it disturbs me greatly that Hogan chased Orton tonight since that might signal Orton winning at the PPV. But this IS Hogan we're talking about here. Maybe he'll no sell a whole match of Orton working his bad knee, Hulk up, and nail Orton with the bad leg for the 1-2-3.

 

This might sound silly, but does Raw actually have a roster anymore? I'm serious, what is Raw's roster? It's like watching an entire show of nothing but the part time legends, with some Cena/Edge thrown in. At least SD (and even ECW) are giving some new guys a shot.

 

No Hogan killed the crowd just as much as Orton did. The fans are sick of Hogan. Period.

[Danville_Wrestling 0]

This might sound silly, but does Raw actually have a roster anymore? I'm serious, what is Raw's roster? It's like watching an entire show of nothing but the part time legends, with some Cena/Edge thrown in. At least SD (and even ECW) are giving some new guys a shot.

 

Couldn't agree with you more. As people have echoed over the last few weeks, I feel like I've been in the Twilight Zone this summer where hardly anything on RAW changes. I feel that watching this summer has been a complete waste of time because we still have Edge/Cena, we still have DX/McMahons (which stems from the original HBK-McMahon issues that should've died @ WM), and the constant rotating of the IC title belt in matches that don't mean a damn thing because people in the back are too concerned over the next Diva or the "funny" DX-McMahon feud.

 

I wonder if the buyrate for this pay-per-view takes a nosedive how Hogan will politic and spin that one.

[Hawk 34 0]

I think you guys are reading a bit much into the dead crowd for Hogan. First off, Orton totally killed the crowd with his yawn inducing promo (note the sign: Orton is boring). Second, they already played the music for the fake Hogan. I'd say the crowd assumed it was another joke Hogan, like a midget or something and thus didn't react. That said, it disturbs me greatly that Hogan chased Orton tonight since that might signal Orton winning at the PPV. But this IS Hogan we're talking about here. Maybe he'll no sell a whole match of Orton working his bad knee, Hulk up, and nail Orton with the bad leg for the 1-2-3.

 

This might sound silly, but does Raw actually have a roster anymore? I'm serious, what is Raw's roster? It's like watching an entire show of nothing but the part time legends, with some Cena/Edge thrown in. At least SD (and even ECW) are giving some new guys a shot.

 

No Hogan killed the crowd just as much as Orton did. The fans are sick of Hogan. Period.

 

You put Hogan in Canada, Philly or NYC and you got a monster pop for the guy (ironic considering they are smark country) but elsewhere he has had declined pops.

 

I feel for Edge. He'll take the blame for low buyrates after McMahons/DX, Cena and Hogan will all walk away refusing to take the blame.

[LooseCannon25 0]

When the fuck does the plug get pulled on Orton?

 

 

This guy has killed crowds since he started and they keep throwing him in these big programs.

[Danville_Wrestling 0]

When the fuck does the plug get pulled on Orton?

 

 

This guy has killed crowds since he started and they keep throwing him in these big programs.

 

The answer is never unless the WWE suddenly gets some effective competition which isn't happening anytime soon. It's a simple case of the WWE wanting Orton to be awesome and the fans not buying it so to show their utter disgust at the fans reaction they will keep shoving Orton down our throats until we accept him and the longer we resist the worse it will get.

[2GOLD 0]

The whole problem with this feud is nobody believes for a second Orton has a chance against Hogan. Showing that he has "killed" such legends as David Crosby, Old woman in tights, GI JOE, and Captain Perv doesn't convince people he is anything.

 

The legends who can still move kicked him all over the place. The guy is dead in the water and even the fans know it now.

[Guest JustPassinBy]

I missed most of tonite's forgettable show...

 

Did Melina lose the diva search? Thats too bad.

Wonder what the diva finals show on USA will pull? If its a horrible rating, will WWE just announce that this is the final diva search?

[cabbageboy 0]

Is it just me or did Raw really lose something once RVD was caught with the weed? I doubt he would even be there right now anyway since he would have lost the title at SNME, but when he had the WWE title on Raw the title seemed of utmost importance and was heavily featured.

 

The thing I don't get about the McMahons/DX crap (aside from the obvious playing to egos) is what exactly is the point of any of this? Vince's promo tonight was bizarre and I notice this a lot with him in these feuds, where he says the name McMahon is bigger than HHH or HBK, etc. Thing is, that's in a nebulous business sense. In the ring Vince and Shane aren't actual wrestlers and HHH and HBK have a combined 14 or so world titles between them. How is this a contest? What does either side really gain if they win?

[CanadianGuitarist 0]

Though Raw's still on tape delay in Canada, did I miss anything?

 

Saw my Foley promo and Umaga and immediately lost interest.

[LooseCannon25 0]

you know, I don't mean to bore anyone here but watching shit like this week in and out pisses me off and makes me sad at the same time....why?

 

I remember back in the day ('i've been watching since about 1984) when wrestling actually made me care and was compelling and told a great story. I remember feuds that sucked you in like Savage vs. Steamboat, Hogan vs. Andre, and Roberts vs. Savage just to name a few where two guys wanted to beat the shit out of each other for personal reasons. Someone would fuck someone else up and you had to wait a month or even several month, to the next ppv, to see what the result of the match would be and if revenge would be gotten.

 

Nowadays, someone messes with someone else and we have to wait a whole whopping 6 days or so the see what happens. It's just not the same and all these ppv's and tv time has overexposed wrestling. Sorry, I was just watching old school matches on youtube recently..lol

[Gary Floyd 0]

Is it just me or did Raw really lose something once RVD was caught with the weed? I doubt he would even be there right now anyway since he would have lost the title at SNME, but when he had the WWE title on Raw the title seemed of utmost importance and was heavily featured.

 

The thing I don't get about the McMahons/DX crap (aside from the obvious playing to egos) is what exactly is the point of any of this? Vince's promo tonight was bizarre and I notice this a lot with him in these feuds, where he says the name McMahon is bigger than HHH or HBK, etc. Thing is, that's in a nebulous business sense. In the ring Vince and Shane aren't actual wrestlers and HHH and HBK have a combined 14 or so world titles between them. How is this a contest? What does either side really gain if they win?

I've been trying to figure out the point of the whole feud as well. Why does Vince want Shawn to go back to his old ways? What do these guys have to gain from all of this? None of these, among other questions haven't been explained yet, and that's what annoys me about it: There's really no purpose to the feud.

[cabbageboy 0]

I'm sure others have mentioned this, but how did Cena exactly get back for Raw? Let's look at the logistics of it. I can assume Edge and Lita fucked with his dad early in the day and then got on the plane for Raw. Are we to assume that Cena was at the show already, heard about what Edge had done, left to attend to his dad, and then got back during Raw? Why even leave the show for that silly shit anyway? His dad was in no major jeopardy.

[Kizzo 0]

Everyone is just sick of Hogan....

 

Every 5 or 6 months we get another Hulk Hogan return...and someone trying to KILL HULKAMANIA.. I'm sick and tired of that crap....The Rock/Austin are two individuals who know when to back off......and not let their characters be over exposed.

[Gary Floyd 0]

I'm sure others have mentioned this, but how did Cena exactly get back for Raw? Let's look at the logistics of it. I can assume Edge and Lita fucked with his dad early in the day and then got on the plane for Raw. Are we to assume that Cena was at the show already, heard about what Edge had done, left to attend to his dad, and then got back during Raw? Why even leave the show for that silly shit anyway? His dad was in no major jeopardy.

Maybe Warrior taught him how to teleport.

[cabbageboy 0]

It's just weird. They used to get on WCW's case for having a bunch of old guys, but at least that stuff was a part of the main roster. At this point Raw has become this bizarre environment where 80% of the show is "retired legend vs. should be retired legend" or "old legend vs. young punk." You can do a properly built Hogan feud once in a while, but not so much when you've got Flair and Foley in an old guy feud, as well as Vince dicking around with DX. It's almost as if years of ill fated pushes for green OVW guys has finally caught up with them and the only guys that are still over are the old bastards.

 

And by the way, what the fuck is Hacksaw Jim Duggan doing on my TV in the year 2006? Seeing him once was tedious but I could bear it. But why are they bringing him back on a seemingly semi regular basis?

[Gary Floyd 0]

And by the way, what the fuck is Hacksaw Jim Duggan doing on my TV in the year 2006? Seeing him once was tedious but I could bear it. But why are they bringing him back on a seemingly semi regular basis?

Maybe he brings his old dildo blender with him

[Kizzo 0]

It's just weird. They used to get on WCW's case for having a bunch of old guys, but at least that stuff was a part of the main roster. At this point Raw has become this bizarre environment where 80% of the show is "retired legend vs. should be retired legend" or "old legend vs. young punk." You can do a properly built Hogan feud once in a while, but not so much when you've got Flair and Foley in an old guy feud, as well as Vince dicking around with DX. It's almost as if years of ill fated pushes for green OVW guys has finally caught up with them and the only guys that are still over are the old bastards.

 

And by the way, what the fuck is Hacksaw Jim Duggan doing on my TV in the year 2006? Seeing him once was tedious but I could bear it. But why are they bringing him back on a seemingly semi regular basis?

 

It is weird....they bash wCw about its use of old guys...its now 90% of their focus in FUCKING 2006 for gods sake. Atleast there was a crusierweight division to fall back on in wCw...and we had guys like Jericho and etc in the mid card.

[AmazingRen 0]

Nowadays it seems like most of the Raw roster is filled with women and non-regular performers (McMahons, Hogan, Foley, Flair, Duggan).

 

I like Carlito, but the main problem with him is his offense is weak (punches, kicks....etc). Reminds me Chris Jericho when it comes to that.

[MFer 0]

Speaking of which, what is Jericho doing these days?

[Gary Floyd 0]

Quick review of Raw

 

The Good

 

-The crowd was awesome. Great signs too.

-Rando. Seriously, the guy is the best part of these threads.

 

The bad

 

-Dx vs. The McMahons. Again what is the point of this feud other than bloated egos? Definately the most confusing, and one of the worst feuds of the year.

 

-Lita wins the belt. Why does Mickie have to job in her hometown? Why does the WWE continue to job people in their home towns and home states? Plus, of all the people, why Lita?

 

-Hogan vs. Orton. A perfect example of the WWE forcefeeding us with bullshit and hoping we immediately accept it. Sorry Vine, we aren't idiots, we are tired of Orton, and we are tired of Hogan.

 

-What tag division? And why is Jim Duggan back?

 

-Edge vs. Cena. Poor Edge. The guy is the best heel on Raw, and he's stuck feuding with the Great White Hype.

 

-JR continues to sound more confused each week. Actually, I don't know what to think of that

 

All in all, a dreadful edition of Raw.

[Ravenbomb 0]

helping his cyborg bretheren wipe out humanity

[JustJoe2k5 0]

It's just weird. They used to get on WCW's case for having a bunch of old guys, but at least that stuff was a part of the main roster. At this point Raw has become this bizarre environment where 80% of the show is "retired legend vs. should be retired legend" or "old legend vs. young punk." You can do a properly built Hogan feud once in a while, but not so much when you've got Flair and Foley in an old guy feud, as well as Vince dicking around with DX. It's almost as if years of ill fated pushes for green OVW guys has finally caught up with them and the only guys that are still over are the old bastards.

 

And by the way, what the fuck is Hacksaw Jim Duggan doing on my TV in the year 2006? Seeing him once was tedious but I could bear it. But why are they bringing him back on a seemingly semi regular basis?

 

It is weird....they bash wCw about its use of old guys...its now 90% of their focus in FUCKING 2006 for gods sake. Atleast there was a crusierweight division to fall back on in wCw...and we had guys like Jericho and etc in the mid card.

 

I can't help but think about that everytime Hulk Hogan "burns his bridges" with Vince McMahon only to return in time for the next WrestleMania.

[Taker666 0]

I'am not gonna comment on this show sence everything I felt about it has already been said on this thread.

 

but where the FUCK was Kane?

 

he becomes #1 Contender for the IC Title and doesn't even show up or no mention of him. seriously, this fuckin sucks. and when does he get his IC title shot anyways.

 

EDIT: And did Orton say "I have killed every legend I have stepped into the ring with" during his promo?

 

Newsflash Orton, The Undertaker chewed you up annd spitted you out last year, he fucked you over in ways you deserved to be.

[KingPK 0]

-Lita wins the belt. Why does Mickie have to job in her hometown? Why does the WWE continue to job people in their home towns and home states? Plus, of all the people, why Lita?

 

I'm starting to think that that is leading up to a Trish-Lita match at Unforgiven where Trish wins the title in her hometown in her final WWE appearance. That'd at least explain why the Trish-Melina feud suddenly fell off the face of the Earth.

[The Niggardly King 0]

You know it's bad when the only possible feud that could interest me would be Kane/Umaga.

[Scroby 0]

I'm not surprised Raw sucked....again. With Summerslam being Raw heavy, I figured they were going to promote the show with angles/storylines and have very little wrestling. I'm actually surprised that Nitro,Spirt Squad,and The Highlanders even got on Raw. I'm also wondering why the Randy Orton/Hulk Hogan thing didn't happen at the 10 o'clock hour and have the Carlito/Edge match as the main event or just switch the two around. Have the Orton/Hogan segement before the Carlito/Edge match. The whole Hogan ending the show helped suck the rest of the little life that Raw had right out of the show.

 

If Summerslam remains a Raw heavy ppv, I won't get it.

[The Niggardly King 0]

The fucked up Irish whip was one thing, but Hogan AUDIBLY telling the guy "Alright, just keep backing up dude" while he was wagging his finger at him beats him not being able to start Takers bike.

[Guest Princess Leena]

Even I must admit Randall's promo was boring as shit tonight, and this feud has been nothing but terrible.

 

But, most of the time, Orton is still over enough to keep his job, so quit your bellyachin'.

[The Niggardly King 0]

This feud could have been decent if it was Orton going after Brooke and being his good ol creepy self. It just turned into a generic young guy vs old guy feud with the generic young guy vs old guy insults.