OAO SummerSlam Thread - August/20th/2006.

[SamoaRowe 0]

The show sounds like it was pure and utter shit.

 

I'm glad Edge retained though.

[CanadianGuitarist 0]

The show sounds like it was pure and utter shit.

 

I'm glad Edge retained though.

 

 

Wasn't all bad. Pretty forgettable, all in all, but not a total waste of money.

[benn 0]

I only saw Orton/Hogan, the finish of Foley/Flair, the start of Booker/Batista, DX/McMahons, and the finish of the WWE title.

 

Orton needed to work the leg more and Hogan obviously should have put him over. There was only one chinlock though and it was pretty short by Orton's standards.

 

The finish of Foley/Flair was great.

 

What I saw of Booker/Batista was boring.

 

DX/McMahons was weird and horribly overbooked. The Coast to Coast Sweet Chin Music spot looked cool though and this should be the blowoff to their feud.

 

The outcome of Edge/Cena was pleasing but they could have gone about it much simpler.

 

The whole show was either overbooked or rushed, but the end result was a reasonably watchable PPV.

[Hawk 34 0]

The show sounds like it was pure and utter shit.

 

I'm glad Edge retained though.

Hardly.

 

Chavo/Rey was a servicable opener. TBS/Sabu was textbook with an authentic Sabu botch. Hogan/Orton was what you expect from them but Orton put effort out there and so did Hogan to an extent. The I Quit match was fantastic and the finish was smart although some will complain about the lack of a big holy shit spot. Booker/Batista was nothing but it had to be to extend the program. McMahons/DX was overbooked but had its moments. The main event was solid enough and the crowd was good.

 

Hardly a "pure and utter shit" show.

[The Niggardly King 0]

The Hogan match would have been better if Orton did the Shawn Michaels type of selling.

[CanadianGuitarist 0]

Benn only saw half the show, and he was spot on as far as a review. Hawk was right, too. This show was not memorably great. But it was, for the most part, enjoyable.

[The Tino Standard 0]

Orton really needs to learn how to play off the crowd better.

 

When he was in control of the match, the crowd started firing up Hogan chants and he just looked out into nowhere like a deer in headlights. You need to do SOMETHING there to rile up the crowd... Egg them on, thumb your nose at them... ANYTHING heelish.

 

And it's about fucking time Edge got a real win in this rivalry with Cena. Color me shocked (and pleasantly surprised).

[bob_barron 0]

Hardly a "pure and utter shit" show

 

No, the show was pure and utter shit aside from Flair v. Foley until Edge won in the main event.

[The Mandarin 0]

Hardly a "pure and utter shit" show

 

No, the show was pure and utter shit aside from Flair v. Foley

 

The last five minutes to Cena/Edge were terribly sloppy, so I didn't even care for the finish. Some near falls were well done though since they were out of the blue and for the babyface.

 

I'm such a blind mark for Flair, I really loved his match even though there were fewer spots than most of the recent Edge/Foley stuff. Finish was okay because Foley looked like a fucking mess, but I couldn't care less about the story considering I don't watch WWE television much at all. Foley's affection for Melina or whatever is gross.

 

Rest of the show was pretty awful, I just flat out didn't watch during much of the tag match. The SmackDown side of things were not good at all, I missed the ECW match so I don't know how that went, and Hogan vs. Orton was as dull as you'd expect.

 

Really disappointed considering I relatively liked the last few months worth of PPV that I saw (Backlash, ECW, Vengeance).

 

Seriously though, Flair still entertains the hell out of me with his bleeding, and drunkeness and unintelligible speech. PPV MVP.

[GODSON 0]

It was not a bad show, it just wasn't a good show. Since this is the second biggest ppv of the year, I had high standards. Nothing live up to the hype but Edge and Cena which was pretty good I think. I don't understand the Ric Flair love these past two years from the internet but this was the typical Ric Flair bloodfest. Put anybody else in the same position and people would sh!t on the match. No different from his matches with HHH.

[Guest Kobe24KGold]

Flair and Foley was on its way to being a classic until one of the worst finishes in history. WHO the FUCK cares about dog-faced Melina? Fuckin A. The placement of Melina in such a match belies the intensity and acrimony that were the hallmarks of this fucking feud. Not only that, but a truly great match is one that will still be viewed favorably in 5 or 10 years. Nobody gives a fuck about Melina, except for looking up the crack of her butthole.

 

I'm glad Hogan buried Orton and waited 3 days to legdrop him. Blandy Orton never deserved THIS much, anyway. Oh, and Hogan doing the crotch chop was gold. Too bad HHH looked like an idiot trying to get back at him with the ear-cupping.

 

Fuck Cena and I'm glad his hometown booed his ass. He's not the next big face; he's the next big heel. Vince should realize that before it's too late. Edge winning made me VERY happy.

 

The smartmark community is slowly turning on Sabu.

 

I'm glad the crowd booed Rey, Chavo, and Vicki.

 

Very forgettable PPV.

[Hawk 34 0]

Kobe proves my point exactly about how you actually have to pay attention to every detail of a Mick Foley storyline understand the entire purpose of that particular finish. He missed the entire point. It isn't about Melina's looks. It has nothing to do with that but he fails to look beyond this.

 

It was more then just Foley saving his valet/friend from getting attacked. Look at Foley's trangression in this current character of his and you'll see that it all started with Foley's urge to get Melina's approval. This started way before Flair entered the picture.

 

Foley established very early on that he sees Melina as something special for reasons beyond just physical. Throughout the storyline with Flair, Melina played a key part in it.

 

Take a look at the pre-match promo with Melina and Foley. Foley was relaxed but Melina knew she had to get Foley in a different mindset. She threatened she'd be disapointed and hinted their friendship might not survive a lost. Look at Melina's facial expression once Foley left with determination...that wasn't the look of someone who was using someone but rather happiness.

 

Melina came out to comfort Mick upon the first stoppage and once she saw the violence first hand, she had to end it. Melina put away her ego to stand against Flair to help a father figure like Mick.

 

Mick, has clearly stated over the months the importance that Melina has to him and that finish proved that Foley was still human despite the entire carnage.

 

Foley WON. He turned Flair into a animal thirsty for blood. He got the approval of the girl he needed the approval of. He got his humanity back after losing it at WrestleMania. At the start, Flair ripped Foley for being a garbage wrestler and in the end, Flair was consumed and was willing to attack a girl in his rage. At the end of the match, he wasn't satisfied.

 

It's a pretty simple story and it had a pretty simple ending. It wasn't that complex, just the basic Mick Foley deal.

[cabbageboy 0]

This was a decent show tonight, not really amazing but not too bad. I enjoyed Flair/Foley though I thought the ending was a bit lame with Foley quitting to protect Melina (aside: there were too many chicks coming out during matches tonight).

 

I'm trying to figure out what the point of this Rey/Chavo feud is. Neither man was really over tonight and it's making crowds feel uncomfortable.

 

Hogan/Orton was actually a bit better than I was thinking it would be, mainly because it was kept short enough to where Orton didn't get to do nonstop headlocks. That said, I was begging for Hogan to no sell the RKO and a whole match of legwork, then nail Orton with the bad leg and drop the bad leg for the pin. I think I got some of that, but not all.

 

I was glad to see Edge retain tonight though he'll likely job now in Toronto so Cena can have the belt and promote The Marine. As far as Booker/Batista goes, man Batista has looked really crappy since he's gotten back. He almost had a Steiner moment tonight with the powerbomb.

[Guest Kobe24KGold]

Kobe proves my point exactly about how you actually have to pay attention to every detail of a Mick Foley storyline understand the entire purpose of that particular finish. He missed the entire point. It isn't about Melina's looks. It has nothing to do with that but he fails to look beyond this.

 

It was more then just Foley saving his valet/friend from getting attacked. Look at Foley's trangression in this current character of his and you'll see that it all started with Foley's urge to get Melina's approval. This started way before Flair entered the picture.

 

Foley established very early on that he sees Melina as something special for reasons beyond just physical. Throughout the storyline with Flair, Melina played a key part in it.

 

Take a look at the pre-match promo with Melina and Foley. Foley was relaxed but Melina knew she had to get Foley in a different mindset. She threatened she'd be disapointed and hinted their friendship might not survive a lost. Look at Melina's facial expression once Foley left with determination...that wasn't the look of someone who was using someone but rather happiness.

 

Melina came out to comfort Mick upon the first stoppage and once she saw the violence first hand, she had to end it. Melina put away her ego to stand against Flair to help a father figure like Mick.

 

Mick, has clearly stated over the months the importance that Melina has to him and that finish proved that Foley was still human despite the entire carnage.

 

Foley WON. He turned Flair into a animal thirsty for blood. He got the approval of the girl he needed the approval of. He got his humanity back after losing it at WrestleMania.

 

It's a pretty simple story and it had a pretty simple ending. It wasn't that complex, just the basic Mick Foley deal.

 

Oh, I understand the story arc. I just don't care about it. It's weak. Foley's little fascination with Melina started as a "wink, wink", I can be funny on the Internet and curry favor from the smarks, too. The only problem is...it was overrated as fuck and nobody gave a damn about it in the first place. Foley erred, here.

 

The liaison that Foley has with Melina reminds me of all the losers in high school and college who get LJBF'd (Let's just be friends) by the good-looking girls because they were either A) ugly or B) were frustrated chumps or C) dressed like shit. Au Contraire, as Foley is the loser, not Flair. Foley can be Melina's cuddle bitch all he wants, but he's never getting any of that pussy. Flair, the Alpha Male that he is, will get some and then some more while WOOOing after each orgasm.

[Karc 0]

Kobe proves my point exactly about how you actually have to pay attention to every detail of a Mick Foley storyline understand the entire purpose of that particular finish. He missed the entire point. It isn't about Melina's looks. It has nothing to do with that but he fails to look beyond this.

 

It was more then just Foley saving his valet/friend from getting attacked. Look at Foley's trangression in this current character of his and you'll see that it all started with Foley's urge to get Melina's approval. This started way before Flair entered the picture.

 

Foley established very early on that he sees Melina as something special for reasons beyond just physical. Throughout the storyline with Flair, Melina played a key part in it.

 

Take a look at the pre-match promo with Melina and Foley. Foley was relaxed but Melina knew she had to get Foley in a different mindset. She threatened she'd be disapointed and hinted their friendship might not survive a lost. Look at Melina's facial expression once Foley left with determination...that wasn't the look of someone who was using someone but rather happiness.

 

Melina came out to comfort Mick upon the first stoppage and once she saw the violence first hand, she had to end it. Melina put away her ego to stand against Flair to help a father figure like Mick.

 

Mick, has clearly stated over the months the importance that Melina has to him and that finish proved that Foley was still human despite the entire carnage.

 

Foley WON. He turned Flair into a animal thirsty for blood. He got the approval of the girl he needed the approval of. He got his humanity back after losing it at WrestleMania.

 

It's a pretty simple story and it had a pretty simple ending. It wasn't that complex, just the basic Mick Foley deal.

 

That's pretty much my understanding of the storyline. It's not a love story or a slut story like every other WWE angle (which is just more evidence to me that Foley wrote this himself), it's a guy trying to redeem himself. Only two things bothered me to the point where I still did not care.

 

1. They used Melina as the woman. I can't stand Melina on TV, at ALL.

2. Anyone who became a WWE fan after 2000 is not going to get that storyline, at ALL. I mean, seriously, this angle takes thought to understand. Not a lot of it, but more than is given by Carlito and Trish, for example. Foley has to explain this tomorrow night, with the Stryker chalkboard, preferably. I mean, some of the youngin' Cena tools might need some pictures.

 

As for the rest of the card, it's clear that this is the annual WWE mood swing of "let's fuck the fans in the worst way imaginable to amuse ourselves." WWE logic at its finest having two different endings to the same finish in the title matches. That was funny to watch.

[Hawk 34 0]

Kobe proves my point exactly about how you actually have to pay attention to every detail of a Mick Foley storyline understand the entire purpose of that particular finish. He missed the entire point. It isn't about Melina's looks. It has nothing to do with that but he fails to look beyond this.

 

It was more then just Foley saving his valet/friend from getting attacked. Look at Foley's trangression in this current character of his and you'll see that it all started with Foley's urge to get Melina's approval. This started way before Flair entered the picture.

 

Foley established very early on that he sees Melina as something special for reasons beyond just physical. Throughout the storyline with Flair, Melina played a key part in it.

 

Take a look at the pre-match promo with Melina and Foley. Foley was relaxed but Melina knew she had to get Foley in a different mindset. She threatened she'd be disapointed and hinted their friendship might not survive a lost. Look at Melina's facial expression once Foley left with determination...that wasn't the look of someone who was using someone but rather happiness.

 

Melina came out to comfort Mick upon the first stoppage and once she saw the violence first hand, she had to end it. Melina put away her ego to stand against Flair to help a father figure like Mick.

 

Mick, has clearly stated over the months the importance that Melina has to him and that finish proved that Foley was still human despite the entire carnage.

 

Foley WON. He turned Flair into a animal thirsty for blood. He got the approval of the girl he needed the approval of. He got his humanity back after losing it at WrestleMania.

 

It's a pretty simple story and it had a pretty simple ending. It wasn't that complex, just the basic Mick Foley deal.

 

Oh, I understand the story arc. I just don't care about it. It's weak. Foley's little fascination with Melina started as a "wink, wink", I can be funny on the Internet and curry favor from the smarks, too. The only problem is...it was overrated as fuck and nobody gave a damn about it in the first place. Foley erred, here.

 

The liaison that Foley has with Melina reminds me of all the losers in high school and college who get LJBF'd (Let's just be friends) by the good-looking girls because they were either A) ugly or B) were frustrated chumps or C) dressed like shit. Au Contraire, as Foley is the loser, not Flair. Foley can be Melina's cuddle bitch all he wants, but he's never getting any of that pussy. Flair, the Alpha Male that he is, will get some and then some more while WOOOing after each orgasm.

 

Putting aside the fact that Foley's actual wife is tremendously beautiful. That's the point. Foley is supposed to be that guy. He even said this straight out.

 

The finish was great because it worked much more from a story point then some idiotic uneccesary holy shit bump. If you want senseless bumps, go watch CZW. The finish put over the brutality much more this way then a big bump ever would have.

 

Look at how memorable this match will be despite the lack of a big bump. It was the intensity of the two guys and simplicity of the match that put it over. Almost similar to Blanchard/TA.

[Guest Kobe24KGold]

Kobe proves my point exactly about how you actually have to pay attention to every detail of a Mick Foley storyline understand the entire purpose of that particular finish. He missed the entire point. It isn't about Melina's looks. It has nothing to do with that but he fails to look beyond this.

 

It was more then just Foley saving his valet/friend from getting attacked. Look at Foley's trangression in this current character of his and you'll see that it all started with Foley's urge to get Melina's approval. This started way before Flair entered the picture.

 

Foley established very early on that he sees Melina as something special for reasons beyond just physical. Throughout the storyline with Flair, Melina played a key part in it.

 

Take a look at the pre-match promo with Melina and Foley. Foley was relaxed but Melina knew she had to get Foley in a different mindset. She threatened she'd be disapointed and hinted their friendship might not survive a lost. Look at Melina's facial expression once Foley left with determination...that wasn't the look of someone who was using someone but rather happiness.

 

Melina came out to comfort Mick upon the first stoppage and once she saw the violence first hand, she had to end it. Melina put away her ego to stand against Flair to help a father figure like Mick.

 

Mick, has clearly stated over the months the importance that Melina has to him and that finish proved that Foley was still human despite the entire carnage.

 

Foley WON. He turned Flair into a animal thirsty for blood. He got the approval of the girl he needed the approval of. He got his humanity back after losing it at WrestleMania.

 

It's a pretty simple story and it had a pretty simple ending. It wasn't that complex, just the basic Mick Foley deal.

 

That's pretty much my understanding of the storyline. It's not a love story or a slut story like every other WWE angle (which is just more evidence to me that Foley wrote this himself), it's a guy trying to redeem himself. Only two things bothered me to the point where I still did not care.

1. They used Melina as the woman. I can't stand Melina on TV, at ALL.

2. Anyone who became a WWE fan after 2000 is not going to get that storyline, at ALL. I mean, seriously, this angle takes thought to understand. Not a lot of it, but more than is given by Carlito and Trish, for example. Foley has to explain this tomorrow night, with the Stryker chalkboard, preferably. I mean, some of the youngin' Cena tools might need some pictures.

 

As for the rest of the card, it's clear that this is the annual WWE mood swing of "let's fuck the fans in the worst way imaginable to amuse ourselves." WWE logic at its finest having two different endings to the same finish in the title matches. That was funny to watch.

 

Exactly. Now, if it was someone like Miss Elizabeth in Melina's role, then more people would care. You need a classy woman. Melina is a slut...I mean anyone whose ring entrance revolves around exposing their butthole and camel toe is a slut. Nobody respects sluts and nobody respects those who respect sluts. That's why people think the SummerSlam finish was shit.

[Guest Kobe24KGold]

Kobe proves my point exactly about how you actually have to pay attention to every detail of a Mick Foley storyline understand the entire purpose of that particular finish. He missed the entire point. It isn't about Melina's looks. It has nothing to do with that but he fails to look beyond this.

 

It was more then just Foley saving his valet/friend from getting attacked. Look at Foley's trangression in this current character of his and you'll see that it all started with Foley's urge to get Melina's approval. This started way before Flair entered the picture.

 

Foley established very early on that he sees Melina as something special for reasons beyond just physical. Throughout the storyline with Flair, Melina played a key part in it.

 

Take a look at the pre-match promo with Melina and Foley. Foley was relaxed but Melina knew she had to get Foley in a different mindset. She threatened she'd be disapointed and hinted their friendship might not survive a lost. Look at Melina's facial expression once Foley left with determination...that wasn't the look of someone who was using someone but rather happiness.

 

Melina came out to comfort Mick upon the first stoppage and once she saw the violence first hand, she had to end it. Melina put away her ego to stand against Flair to help a father figure like Mick.

 

Mick, has clearly stated over the months the importance that Melina has to him and that finish proved that Foley was still human despite the entire carnage.

 

Foley WON. He turned Flair into a animal thirsty for blood. He got the approval of the girl he needed the approval of. He got his humanity back after losing it at WrestleMania.

 

It's a pretty simple story and it had a pretty simple ending. It wasn't that complex, just the basic Mick Foley deal.

 

Oh, I understand the story arc. I just don't care about it. It's weak. Foley's little fascination with Melina started as a "wink, wink", I can be funny on the Internet and curry favor from the smarks, too. The only problem is...it was overrated as fuck and nobody gave a damn about it in the first place. Foley erred, here.

 

The liaison that Foley has with Melina reminds me of all the losers in high school and college who get LJBF'd (Let's just be friends) by the good-looking girls because they were either A) ugly or B) were frustrated chumps or C) dressed like shit. Au Contraire, as Foley is the loser, not Flair. Foley can be Melina's cuddle bitch all he wants, but he's never getting any of that pussy. Flair, the Alpha Male that he is, will get some and then some more while WOOOing after each orgasm.

 

Putting aside the fact that Foley's actual wife is tremendously beautiful. That's the point. Foley is supposed to be that guy. He even said this straight out.

 

The finish was great because it worked much more from a story point then some idiotic uneccesary holy shit bump. If you want senseless bumps, go watch CZW. The finish put over the brutality much more this way then a big bump ever would have.

 

Look at how memorable this match will be despite the lack of a big bump. It was the intensity of the two guys and simplicity of the match that put it over. Almost similar to Blanchard/TA.

 

 

Sure. Foley's wife is beautiful and way better looking in her prime than 90 percent of all WWE divas. But, Foley's wife is also classy; she is someone who finds male intellect and charm attractive, as opposed to ab definition.

 

With such a storyline, you need a beautiful woman in the vein of Foley's own wife -- someone who neglects to show much skin and doesn't act like an attention whore. Unfortunately, Melina's characterization is that of a whore, attention whore, scantily-clad bimbo who readily shows her body parts to get a rise, if you will. She is grossly miscast for the role of the woman who appeals to Foley on a level that transcends sexuality. Why? Because she (her character, anyway) isn't innocent nor unaware of her power over men -- and those are the female qualities that provoke the protective and nurturing attributes in men.

[razazteca 0]

Kobe proves my point exactly about how you actually have to pay attention to every detail of a Mick Foley storyline understand the entire purpose of that particular finish. He missed the entire point. It isn't about Melina's looks. It has nothing to do with that but he fails to look beyond this.

 

It was more then just Foley saving his valet/friend from getting attacked. Look at Foley's trangression in this current character of his and you'll see that it all started with Foley's urge to get Melina's approval. This started way before Flair entered the picture.

 

Foley established very early on that he sees Melina as something special for reasons beyond just physical. Throughout the storyline with Flair, Melina played a key part in it.

 

Take a look at the pre-match promo with Melina and Foley. Foley was relaxed but Melina knew she had to get Foley in a different mindset. She threatened she'd be disapointed and hinted their friendship might not survive a lost. Look at Melina's facial expression once Foley left with determination...that wasn't the look of someone who was using someone but rather happiness.

 

Melina came out to comfort Mick upon the first stoppage and once she saw the violence first hand, she had to end it. Melina put away her ego to stand against Flair to help a father figure like Mick.

 

Mick, has clearly stated over the months the importance that Melina has to him and that finish proved that Foley was still human despite the entire carnage.

 

Foley WON. He turned Flair into a animal thirsty for blood. He got the approval of the girl he needed the approval of. He got his humanity back after losing it at WrestleMania. At the start, Flair ripped Foley for being a garbage wrestler and in the end, Flair was consumed and was willing to attack a girl in his rage. At the end of the match, he wasn't satisfied.

 

It's a pretty simple story and it had a pretty simple ending. It wasn't that complex, just the basic Mick Foley deal.

 

Save the drama for your mama's day time soap! This is reason #489743 why I hate WWE it is overbooked and what happens in the ring ends up meaning nothing. THIS IS PRO WRESTLING NOT FUCKING GENERAL HOSPITAL! Flair and Foley bleed buckets all for nothing so that Melina can overshadow them by throwing in the towel? Who the Fuck is Melina to Foley? Is she sucking his dick in the backstage or what....why else would she feel the need to come to the ring to end the match for Foley? BULLSHIT ending! With everybody and their manager making cameo appearences during Summerslam where the fuck was Nitro? Should I expect Foley losing to Nitro at the next PPV or what?

[Guest Kobe24KGold]

Melina is judged on how her character is defined. So, based on past precadence -- mostly involving her interaction with Johnny Nitro -- we see Nitro fingering her butthole a few weeks back, her blatant ass-bearing ring entrance every week, her rubbing and caressing of Nitro's chiseled physique, her sexual harassment angle with Batista etc etc, one would surmise she is a slut who thrives off of male attention.

 

So...based on that premise, the womanizing Flair who understands THAT type of woman, WINS.

[Guest Overworked]

Ok, on the obvious lack of continuity between the bet between Booker and Edge. Both retained thats great, but isn't there a problem here? Booker retained because Sharmell jumped into the ring and atop of Booker to distract Batisita in mid bomb.

 

Lita jumps onto Edge while in FU position on Cena's shoulders. Why wasn't that a DQ? That was the same god damn situation?

[Guest jackie fargo]

Best Match: tie between Hogan/Orton-Edge/Cena

 

Worst Match: Chavo/ Rey

 

 

 

Absolutely loved how Hogan got the super POP of the night and then went out had a good match with the boring Randy Orton-the finish was good and the crowd loved it. Also loved Hogan doing the old NWO Crotch Chop-I think this might be a hint of an NWO/DX feud down the line by what happened tonight with what he did and what HHH did.

 

 

Funny part of the night was watching the reaction on HHH's face when he and HBK basically got a lukewarm reaction, he then started doing the Hogan cuppin to the ear which might also be a sign of a feud a brewing.

 

 

Batista/ Booker was boring and it rreally was bad match.

 

 

the Edge/Cena match delivered and it was the right ending of the night.

 

 

A good night of WWE.

[Guest Kobe24KGold]

Ok, on the obvious lack of continuity between the bet between Booker and Edge. Both retained thats great, but isn't there a problem here? Booker retained because Sharmell jumped into the ring and atop of Booker to distract Batisita in mid bomb.

 

Lita jumps onto Edge while in FU position on Cena's shoulders. Why wasn't that a DQ? That was the same god damn situation?

 

 

It's WWE. They're notorious for discontinuity.

[Hawk 34 0]

Save the drama for your mama's day time soap! This is reason #489743 why I hate WWE it is overbooked and what happens in the ring ends up meaning nothing. THIS IS PRO WRESTLING NOT FUCKING GENERAL HOSPITAL! Flair and Foley bleed buckets all for nothing so that Melina can overshadow them by throwing in the towel? Who the Fuck is Melina to Foley? Is she sucking his dick in the backstage or what....why else would she feel the need to come to the ring to end the match for Foley? BULLSHIT ending! With everybody and their manager making cameo appearences during Summerslam where the fuck was Nitro? Should I expect Foley losing to Nitro at the next PPV or what?

 

 

You should be aware that angles around similar lines as this one have been occuring for years and in other promotions before WWE became anything resembling a soap. It's a fucking TEXTBOOK wrestling storyline.

[benn 0]

Kobe proves my point exactly about how you actually have to pay attention to every detail of a Mick Foley storyline understand the entire purpose of that particular finish. He missed the entire point. It isn't about Melina's looks. It has nothing to do with that but he fails to look beyond this.

 

It was more then just Foley saving his valet/friend from getting attacked. Look at Foley's trangression in this current character of his and you'll see that it all started with Foley's urge to get Melina's approval. This started way before Flair entered the picture.

 

Foley established very early on that he sees Melina as something special for reasons beyond just physical. Throughout the storyline with Flair, Melina played a key part in it.

 

Take a look at the pre-match promo with Melina and Foley. Foley was relaxed but Melina knew she had to get Foley in a different mindset. She threatened she'd be disapointed and hinted their friendship might not survive a lost. Look at Melina's facial expression once Foley left with determination...that wasn't the look of someone who was using someone but rather happiness.

 

Melina came out to comfort Mick upon the first stoppage and once she saw the violence first hand, she had to end it. Melina put away her ego to stand against Flair to help a father figure like Mick.

 

Mick, has clearly stated over the months the importance that Melina has to him and that finish proved that Foley was still human despite the entire carnage.

 

Foley WON. He turned Flair into a animal thirsty for blood. He got the approval of the girl he needed the approval of. He got his humanity back after losing it at WrestleMania.

 

It's a pretty simple story and it had a pretty simple ending. It wasn't that complex, just the basic Mick Foley deal.

 

Oh, I understand the story arc. I just don't care about it. It's weak. Foley's little fascination with Melina started as a "wink, wink", I can be funny on the Internet and curry favor from the smarks, too. The only problem is...it was overrated as fuck and nobody gave a damn about it in the first place. Foley erred, here.

 

The liaison that Foley has with Melina reminds me of all the losers in high school and college who get LJBF'd (Let's just be friends) by the good-looking girls because they were either A) ugly or B) were frustrated chumps or C) dressed like shit. Au Contraire, as Foley is the loser, not Flair. Foley can be Melina's cuddle bitch all he wants, but he's never getting any of that pussy. Flair, the Alpha Male that he is, will get some and then some more while WOOOing after each orgasm.

 

Putting aside the fact that Foley's actual wife is tremendously beautiful. That's the point. Foley is supposed to be that guy. He even said this straight out.

 

The finish was great because it worked much more from a story point then some idiotic uneccesary holy shit bump. If you want senseless bumps, go watch CZW. The finish put over the brutality much more this way then a big bump ever would have.

 

Look at how memorable this match will be despite the lack of a big bump. It was the intensity of the two guys and simplicity of the match that put it over. Almost similar to Blanchard/TA.

 

 

Sure. Foley's wife is beautiful and way better looking in her prime than 90 percent of all WWE divas. But, Foley's wife is also classy; she is someone who finds male intellect and charm attractive, as opposed to ab definition.

 

With such a storyline, you need a beautiful woman in the vein of Foley's own wife -- someone who neglects to show much skin and doesn't act like an attention whore. Unfortunately, Melina's characterization is that of a whore, attention whore, scantily-clad bimbo who readily shows her body parts to get a rise, if you will. She is grossly miscast for the role of the woman who appeals to Foley on a level that transcends sexuality. Why? Because she (her character, anyway) isn't innocent nor unaware of her power over men -- and those are the female qualities that provoke the protective and nurturing attributes in men.

Think back to the promo where Foley mentioned his friend in the porno business, and said even though he's watched her movies before the thing that sticks out to him the most is her work with children in third world countries. Flair said that in his prime he would have nailed Melina and Foley said something along the lines of "that's the difference between you and me, Ric, you see Melina as nothing more than a conquest, to me she's a close friend".

 

Hawk 34 is dead on with the whole point of the feud. Foley showed his human side and Flair has been driven to absolute violence. Melina is what has kept Foley from reverting back to Cactus Jack a la the Triple H feud in 2000 or whenever it was. A totally classy Liz-esque woman would defeat the purpose of it because Flair and his limosine ridin' character would more naturally align with or respect such a woman rather than threatening to beat her senseless with Barbie.

 

You're looking at the Foley/Melina relationship the wrong way. It's not supposed to be sexual, that's why Nitro is still in the picture. It's not even supposed to transcend sexuality. Sexuality doesn't figure into their relationship at all. And pointing out that Melina is aware of her charms over men is pointless because there's been no interaction between her and Foley that has suggested they even flirt. Its not like she's using Foley as a henchman or something.

[Guest Kobe24KGold]

Kobe proves my point exactly about how you actually have to pay attention to every detail of a Mick Foley storyline understand the entire purpose of that particular finish. He missed the entire point. It isn't about Melina's looks. It has nothing to do with that but he fails to look beyond this.

 

It was more then just Foley saving his valet/friend from getting attacked. Look at Foley's trangression in this current character of his and you'll see that it all started with Foley's urge to get Melina's approval. This started way before Flair entered the picture.

 

Foley established very early on that he sees Melina as something special for reasons beyond just physical. Throughout the storyline with Flair, Melina played a key part in it.

 

Take a look at the pre-match promo with Melina and Foley. Foley was relaxed but Melina knew she had to get Foley in a different mindset. She threatened she'd be disapointed and hinted their friendship might not survive a lost. Look at Melina's facial expression once Foley left with determination...that wasn't the look of someone who was using someone but rather happiness.

 

Melina came out to comfort Mick upon the first stoppage and once she saw the violence first hand, she had to end it. Melina put away her ego to stand against Flair to help a father figure like Mick.

 

Mick, has clearly stated over the months the importance that Melina has to him and that finish proved that Foley was still human despite the entire carnage.

 

Foley WON. He turned Flair into a animal thirsty for blood. He got the approval of the girl he needed the approval of. He got his humanity back after losing it at WrestleMania.

 

It's a pretty simple story and it had a pretty simple ending. It wasn't that complex, just the basic Mick Foley deal.

 

Oh, I understand the story arc. I just don't care about it. It's weak. Foley's little fascination with Melina started as a "wink, wink", I can be funny on the Internet and curry favor from the smarks, too. The only problem is...it was overrated as fuck and nobody gave a damn about it in the first place. Foley erred, here.

 

The liaison that Foley has with Melina reminds me of all the losers in high school and college who get LJBF'd (Let's just be friends) by the good-looking girls because they were either A) ugly or B) were frustrated chumps or C) dressed like shit. Au Contraire, as Foley is the loser, not Flair. Foley can be Melina's cuddle bitch all he wants, but he's never getting any of that pussy. Flair, the Alpha Male that he is, will get some and then some more while WOOOing after each orgasm.

 

Putting aside the fact that Foley's actual wife is tremendously beautiful. That's the point. Foley is supposed to be that guy. He even said this straight out.

 

The finish was great because it worked much more from a story point then some idiotic uneccesary holy shit bump. If you want senseless bumps, go watch CZW. The finish put over the brutality much more this way then a big bump ever would have.

 

Look at how memorable this match will be despite the lack of a big bump. It was the intensity of the two guys and simplicity of the match that put it over. Almost similar to Blanchard/TA.

 

 

Sure. Foley's wife is beautiful and way better looking in her prime than 90 percent of all WWE divas. But, Foley's wife is also classy; she is someone who finds male intellect and charm attractive, as opposed to ab definition.

 

With such a storyline, you need a beautiful woman in the vein of Foley's own wife -- someone who neglects to show much skin and doesn't act like an attention whore. Unfortunately, Melina's characterization is that of a whore, attention whore, scantily-clad bimbo who readily shows her body parts to get a rise, if you will. She is grossly miscast for the role of the woman who appeals to Foley on a level that transcends sexuality. Why? Because she (her character, anyway) isn't innocent nor unaware of her power over men -- and those are the female qualities that provoke the protective and nurturing attributes in men.

Think back to the promo where Foley mentioned his friend in the porno business, and said even though he's watched her movies before the thing that sticks out to him the most is her work with children in third world countries. Flair said that in his prime he would have nailed Melina and Foley said something along the lines of "that's the difference between you and me, Ric, you see Melina as nothing more than a conquest, to me she's a close friend".

 

Hawk 34 is dead on with the whole point of the feud. Foley showed his human side and Flair has been driven to absolute violence. Melina is what has kept Foley from reverting back to Cactus Jack a la the Triple H feud in 2000 or whenever it was. A totally classy Liz-esque woman would defeat the purpose of it because Flair and his limosine ridin' character would more naturally align with or respect such a woman rather than threatening to beat her senseless with Barbie.

 

You're looking at the Foley/Melina relationship the wrong way. It's not supposed to be sexual, that's why Nitro is still in the picture. It's not even supposed to transcend sexuality. Sexuality doesn't figure into their relationship at all. And pointing out that Melina is aware of her charms over men is pointless because there's been no interaction between her and Foley that has suggested they even flirt. Its not like she's using Foley as a henchman or something.

 

 

Can you really identify with someone who says he looks at some porn star as a friend because of her work in "so and so country", as opposed to a sexual object? It comes off as being facetious more than anything else; and, it certainly cannot be construed as earnest or "hearfelt."

 

It's just not realistic. We know what's happening; we just can't identify with the motives. It's man's nature to fuck anything that's pretty. Foley's actions contravene the nature of man, because most of us are predisposed to believe that he'd want some of Melina's ass just like any other bloke.

 

And like Razateca said, this ain't the fucking Young and the Restless, it's professional wrestling and it's SUPPOSED to be barbaric and violent without regard for humanity.

[Hawk 34 0]

The best angles in wrestling history centered around concepts far more intelligent and realistic then "I hate you, me hurt you".

 

You obviously are out of touch with reality here, Kobe. Foley is succesful on his own and doesn't need to observe porn stars as objects because he just takes them as who they are. Foley is a man of great compassion. That is idenitfiable because alot of people are willing to see people in a different light. THAT is human nature.

 

It has nothing to do with sex. It never entered the equation except you seem to fail to accept that.

 

It's amazing how you can take one of the more straightforward and basic storyline concepts in this fucking business and act like it's overblown and too complex.

[benn 0]

I don't find it difficult to believe at all that someone like Foley could be friends with hot women and still faithful to his wife. Honestly I think you're just grasping at straws because you don't like Melina.

[Guest Kobe24KGold]

How do you think Steve Austin became the biggest star and money maker in wrestling history? His character had categorically ZERO regard for humanity or feelings.

 

Foley might not cheat on his wife, but I'd question his MANHOOD if he didn't envision sex between himself and Melina. Most people are perceptive enough to recognize that.

[The Niggardly King 0]

Look at how memorable this match will be despite the lack of a big bump. It was the intensity of the two guys and simplicity of the match that put it over. Almost similar to Blanchard/TA.

 

So the ending of the match is almost on par with Blanchard/TA??!!

 

If so, I really have to check this out now.