NFL - Week One.

[Annabelle 0]

The vikings are going to be 12-4 this year so you can hate all you want.

 

...right.

[NoCalMike 0]

So? You act like the Redskins were downed by a team like the Patriots or Colts. They weren't. They were downed by a team that was hanging by a thread last year and went ahead with the 35+ year old QB as the starter this year.

 

I mean, if I was a Redskin fan, I'd be embarrassed by this loss as I would if the Packers had beaten the Bears.

 

 

Did I? Really? Thanks for that analysis on my statements. In reality all I said is that the Redskins lost a close game to a good team, probably a 9-7 or 10-6 team(I haven't seen their schedule). WTF does "hanging by a thread"(When in reality once BJ became the starter, they went 7-2) last season have to do with THIS SEASON? It's Week one, so people are bound to be too optimistic and/or too down about their team's performance.

[Red Baron 0]

Man did the Seahawks played like shit...against the Lions...

 

I mean, they played like shit like last years season opener too.

[Just John 0]

After seeing just part of that awful MNF showing, does anyone think the Raiders can make a run at 1-15 this year? Man, did they look bad.

[teke184 0]

After seeing just part of that awful MNF showing, does anyone think the Raiders can make a run at 1-15 this year? Man, did they look bad.

 

Depends on their schedule...

 

San Diego is a good team, so I wouldn't immediately write off the Raiders because of the loss.

 

 

I see them being competitive against the Cardinals, Chiefs (twice), Browns, Texans, 49ers, and Jets, but most of their other games look brutal.

 

The ugly games for them will be the Ravens, Broncos (twice), Steelers, Seahawks, Chargers again, Bengals, and Rams.

[Guest Vitamin X]

I wouldn't call the Ravens or Rams that good quite yet based off on one game. And have the Chiefs sunk that low they're an "easy" team now?

[teke184 0]

I wouldn't call the Ravens or Rams that good quite yet based off on one game. And have the Chiefs sunk that low they're an "easy" team now?

The Ravens appear to be better than last year on both sides of the ball.

 

The Rams may be a stretch, depending on how they and Denver do this week.

 

 

The Chiefs, IMHO, will be easy as long as they're short an experienced QB and some All-Pro O-Line blockers. (By this I'm referring to Willie Roaf's sudden retirement and NOT anything having to do with Will Shields' performance)

 

Their defense was never great shakes to begin with so, now that they're having offense troubles, it brings them down a bit.

[jwest27 0]

The Rams may be a stretch, depending on how they and Denver do this week.

How dare you question the obvious dominance of the Rams. It is clear that Denver was simply overmatched by the 85 Bears-ish defense of this team, and their pathetic defense was rocked by the awesome power of uh, Jeff Wilkins. The Greatest Show on Turf will look like a high school team compared to mighty 06' Rams.

 

That, or you know, we got lucky. Either/or.

[Lt. Al Giardello 0]

Torry Holt is the best WR in the NFL.

[Guest Vitamin X]

I remember when I put "best WR in the NFL" together with "Randy Moss", but now I may be inclined to agree with you, Carlito.

 

But there's close competition there with Chad Johnson.

[Guest Felonies!]

He can't be more obnoxious than Chad.

[Guest Agent of Oblivion]

Outrageous claim. I came up with Harrison and Santana Moss without even thinking about it or hunting for stats.

[Black Lushus 0]

watch out for those stat geeks, AoO...they'll tell you who is the greatest based off of stats alone...1000+ yards don't mean shit if you're on the 49ers or the Bills or the Packers.

[Guest Agent of Oblivion]

They're a nice supplement to an argument in football. They seem to be the center of baseball debates, though.

[Lt. Al Giardello 0]

Outrageous claim. I came up with Harrison and Santana Moss without even thinking about it or hunting for stats.

 

Are you talking about my claim about Holt being the best WR in the game? You honestly think Santana Moss i better then Holt?

[Guest Princess Leena]

watch out for those stat geeks, AoO...they'll tell you who is the greatest based off of stats alone...1000+ yards don't mean shit if you're on the 49ers or the Bills or the Packers.

 

Yeah, who needs stats when we have your educated opinion!

[Black Lushus 0]

watch out for those stat geeks, AoO...they'll tell you who is the greatest based off of stats alone...1000+ yards don't mean shit if you're on the 49ers or the Bills or the Packers.

 

Yeah, who needs stats when we have your educated opinion!

 

oh we're speaking?

[Guest Agent of Oblivion]

Outrageous claim. I came up with Harrison and Santana Moss without even thinking about it or hunting for stats.

 

Are you talking about my claim about Holt being the best WR in the game? You honestly think Santana Moss i better then Holt?

 

Moss is a little more of a stretch, but I don't even see how Harrison is an argument.

[Guest Vitamin X]

Consider who Harrison has throwing him the ball and who Holt has had throwing him the ball as well. Holt is faster, younger, and I'm guessing has compiled better stats than Harrison at his age with shittier QBs. Marc Bulger, a broken Kurt Warner, and Ryan Fitzpatrick, among others, are not Peyton f'n Manning.

[Lt. Al Giardello 0]

Consider who Harrison has throwing him the ball and who Holt has had throwing him the ball as well. Holt is faster, younger, and I'm guessing has compiled better stats than Harrison at his age with shittier QBs. Marc Bulger, a broken Kurt Warner, and Ryan Fitzpatrick, among others, are not Peyton f'n Manning.

 

That was excatly what I was going to post, beat me to the punch.

[CanadianChris 0]

I agree that Holt is definitely in the conversation, but so are are Harrison, Johnson, Steve Smith, and that Owens guy in Dallas. I'd lean toward Smith, myself.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

Randy Moss isn't? It's not his fault that he has shitty QBs in Oakland to toss to him/not toss to him.

[LaParkaMarka 0]

Speaking of stats geeks, Football Outsiders has a very interesting system set up to measure WR rankings. Check it out here.

 

In 2005, the top receivers in their system were Steve Smith, Chad Johnson, and Santana Moss. They make sure to note that you can't really seperate out a WR stats from the QB...a guy like Randy Moss is a lot more talented than Keenan McCardell, but McCardell had a pretty solid offense around him and a good QB. Moss had Kerry "Interception" Collins.