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[Hawk 34 0]

Wrestlers can work other promotions if they sign with TNA. Also, TNA is like WCW circa 1995 with a huge bank to pay for top names like Angle and eventually Mysterio and the others interested. A guy like Christian, a lifetime mid-carder gets a good pay just to jump ship.

[Mecca 0]

WWE has Mysterio DVD planned to be released in a month that is after his contract is up....there's no way they're gonna let him walk, they'd probably overpay to keep him at this point.

[MarvinisaLunatic 0]

WWE has Mysterio DVD planned to be released in a month that is after his contract is up....there's no way they're gonna let him walk, they'd probably overpay to keep him at this point.

 

Or just not release the DVD..

[pochorenella 0]

Also, TNA is like WCW circa 1995 with a huge bank to pay for top names like Angle and eventually Mysterio and the others interested. A guy like Christian, a lifetime mid-carder gets a good pay just to jump ship.

Then how the hell is TNA supposed to make a profit paying shitloads of money just to make wrestlers jump ship, with sub-par TV ratings (which would cause poor ad revenue, I'm not sure about this point), no house shows, no attendance income (they don't charge for most/all tapings or PPVs), and buyrates in the 40-50,000 range? I don't think they have the deep pockets WCW had back in the day to afford that kind of expenses with so little income just to make guys bolt from WWE. They'll never get out of the red that way.

[Hawk 34 0]

They do have very deep pockets but they are expanding to a house show schedule next year in addition to the high DVD sales they generate to cover some of those losses but like more young business, they have to operate in the red for awhile before getting out.

 

It's almost impossible for a wrestling promotion to make money. In Japan, they're losing money. In America, only WWE and ROH are making profit. TNA and the other indies are hemorrhaging money.

[Hawk 34 0]

They do have very deep pockets but they are expanding to a house show schedule next year in addition to the high DVD sales they generate to cover some of those losses but like more young business, they have to operate in the red for awhile before getting out.

 

It's almost impossible for a wrestling promotion to make money. In Japan, they're losing money. In America, only WWE and ROH are making profit. TNA and the other indies are hemorrhaging money.

[DrVenkman PhD 0]

I saw this on ECW.com and thought it was a good read (and Dreamer claimed yesterday he "got in trouble" for writing it):

 

"I know that in my last Diary I said that I would write many things about ECW. I am still putting it all down, but something else has come up that needs to be addressed. This Diary is directly addressed to the next generation of WWE Superstars, independent wrestlers and anyone that wants to be in sports-entertainment.

 

There are many things that have been lost and forever changed in today's industry. One thing that cannot be lost is RESPECT. This includes respect for people that opened the door for you to be doing something that you love.

 

The first-ever closed circuit telecast was something called Starrcade. This was before pay-per-view. Ric Flair was in the main event. "Rowdy" Roddy Piper was in the main event of the first-ever WrestleMania. Respect is something that is earned and these guys have done that.

 

Recently, I watched Ric Flair and Roddy Piper wait last on line to go through customs to board an airplane. Nobody thought of saying, "Hey guys, wanna go in front of me?" This was the same occurrence at hotels, food lines and then again at the end of the tour going back through customs. If you are a 25-year-old wrestler and your body is sore, how sore do you think a guy's body is that has been wrestling for 25 years? It wasn't done purposely, but you need show respect all the time.

 

I know the idea of respect is taught in both developmental systems. Jim Cornette taught it, Nightmare Danny Davis teaches it, The Assassin Joe Hamilton teaches and so does Bill DeMott. I do not know what makes someone think that once they make it to the main roster in any brand that they are on the same level as the people who have been there. Again, nobody does things deliberately, but you cannot let yourself forget what respect is.

 

There is a hierarchy in the developmental systems, just like there is in the real work place. If you worked at McDonalds for a couple of weeks, bumped a couple of garbage bags on the floor and said to your manager, "you throw this out," how long do you think you'd last?

 

Nine times out of ten when you offer a common courtesy to a Superstar, they decline, but you have shown that you have respect. If you do not know what some people have done in the past, go to the internet or watch WWE 24/7.

 

Here is a quick wrestling lesson. I am also not kissing anybody's ass here. Many people do not remember the whole attitude era in WWE and think that these people just have political stroke. I say bullshit. The people I am about to mention earned their respect in the ring.

 

HBK. He carried WWE on his back, eventually breaking it. He is one of the greatest performers of all time. When the Monday Night Wars were going on, he performed night after night until WWE eventually took back over in the ratings and never looked back. If you think that HBK was always the company poster boy, he was not. HBK was a true rebel. He is open with his past demons and often fought with management. He deserves respect.

 

Dean Malenko. Anyone that is less than six feet tall should thank him. Without Dean, Chris Benoit or Eddie Guerrero, smaller wrestlers would not be given a shot in the business.

 

Tim White. You may think that the former referee that you saw committing suicide every week on WWE.com was just a referee. Tim White was responsible for getting every pay-per-view supplier to carry WrestleMania III. He did this by calling every cable company in America. It took him 4 months, but he made it possible for you to watch that and every other pay-per-view that comes into your home.

 

Triple H. During the Monday Night Wars, his friends Scott Hall and Kevin Nash had their last match in Madison Square Garden. They all toasted each other in the ring. Triple H was in the doghouse for sometime after that. Nobody should ever forget the classic pigpen matches with the Godwins. He went on, though, to become the greatest Superstars this business has ever seen.

 

Edge, Matt and Jeff Hardy. These young talents were all being groomed to be the next generation of stars. Without them, who even knows if there would even be a WWE. These guys, along with the Dudley Boys, Christian and the APA all took tag team wrestling to the next level. How can you wait in a line and not let any of these people ahead of you?

 

The list goes on and on. Kane, Hardcore Holly, Steve Keirn, Ricky Steamboat. I will offer a common courtesy to John Cena and Randy Orton because I enjoy watching them perform. They have carried the company already, and will carry it into the future. Please do not ever let RESPECT for the industry die. If it does, so does the business. One day, when you are on top of the world and someone does not recognize your accomplishments, you will know what I am talking about.

 

This business is spitting out wrestlers rapidly. Many people can claim that they were a wrestler or were in the business, but few people can claim that they made a career out of wrestling. And those who can, all have RESPECT."

[MillenniumMan831 0]

If someone would have given up his place in line for Flair or Piper, he'd have heat for being a kissass.

[The Amazing Rando 0]

I can't believe he name-dropped SKINNER

[Thanks for the Fish 0]

Nobody thought of saying, "Hey guys, wanna go in front of me?"

 

Maybe because that is bad form. It's one thing to trade places with somebody, with them coming to your spot and you heading to the back of the line, it's another thing to bump everybody behind you back a spot or two becase you're letting somebody cut in front of you, because they're not just cutting in front of you but the whole line.

[tominator89 0]

Pro wrestling's unwritten rules never cease to amaze me.

[Dobbs 3K 0]

Maybe Dreamer is mad because no one has ever let him cut in line.

[Mecca 0]

That thing Dreamer wrote is corny, ok respect applies in certain things sure but um if I'm there to eat before someone else just because he's older than me doesn't mean I get to go last....

[Jaxxson Mayhem 0]

I saw this on ECW.com and thought it was a good read (and Dreamer claimed yesterday he "got in trouble" for writing it):

 

"I know that in my last Diary I said that I would write many things about ECW. I am still putting it all down, but something else has come up that needs to be addressed. This Diary is directly addressed to the next generation of WWE Superstars, independent wrestlers and anyone that wants to be in sports-entertainment.

 

There are many things that have been lost and forever changed in today's industry. One thing that cannot be lost is RESPECT. This includes respect for people that opened the door for you to be doing something that you love.

 

The first-ever closed circuit telecast was something called Starrcade. This was before pay-per-view. Ric Flair was in the main event. "Rowdy" Roddy Piper was in the main event of the first-ever WrestleMania. Respect is something that is earned and these guys have done that.

 

Recently, I watched Ric Flair and Roddy Piper wait last on line to go through customs to board an airplane. Nobody thought of saying, "Hey guys, wanna go in front of me?" This was the same occurrence at hotels, food lines and then again at the end of the tour going back through customs. If you are a 25-year-old wrestler and your body is sore, how sore do you think a guy's body is that has been wrestling for 25 years? It wasn't done purposely, but you need show respect all the time.

 

I know the idea of respect is taught in both developmental systems. Jim Cornette taught it, Nightmare Danny Davis teaches it, The Assassin Joe Hamilton teaches and so does Bill DeMott. I do not know what makes someone think that once they make it to the main roster in any brand that they are on the same level as the people who have been there. Again, nobody does things deliberately, but you cannot let yourself forget what respect is.

 

There is a hierarchy in the developmental systems, just like there is in the real work place. If you worked at McDonalds for a couple of weeks, bumped a couple of garbage bags on the floor and said to your manager, "you throw this out," how long do you think you'd last?

 

Nine times out of ten when you offer a common courtesy to a Superstar, they decline, but you have shown that you have respect. If you do not know what some people have done in the past, go to the internet or watch WWE 24/7.

 

Here is a quick wrestling lesson. I am also not kissing anybody's ass here. Many people do not remember the whole attitude era in WWE and think that these people just have political stroke. I say bullshit. The people I am about to mention earned their respect in the ring.

 

HBK. He carried WWE on his back, eventually breaking it. He is one of the greatest performers of all time. When the Monday Night Wars were going on, he performed night after night until WWE eventually took back over in the ratings and never looked back. If you think that HBK was always the company poster boy, he was not. HBK was a true rebel. He is open with his past demons and often fought with management. He deserves respect.

 

Dean Malenko. Anyone that is less than six feet tall should thank him. Without Dean, Chris Benoit or Eddie Guerrero, smaller wrestlers would not be given a shot in the business.

 

Tim White. You may think that the former referee that you saw committing suicide every week on WWE.com was just a referee. Tim White was responsible for getting every pay-per-view supplier to carry WrestleMania III. He did this by calling every cable company in America. It took him 4 months, but he made it possible for you to watch that and every other pay-per-view that comes into your home.

 

Triple H. During the Monday Night Wars, his friends Scott Hall and Kevin Nash had their last match in Madison Square Garden. They all toasted each other in the ring. Triple H was in the doghouse for sometime after that. Nobody should ever forget the classic pigpen matches with the Godwins. He went on, though, to become the greatest Superstars this business has ever seen.

 

Edge, Matt and Jeff Hardy. These young talents were all being groomed to be the next generation of stars. Without them, who even knows if there would even be a WWE. These guys, along with the Dudley Boys, Christian and the APA all took tag team wrestling to the next level. How can you wait in a line and not let any of these people ahead of you?

 

The list goes on and on. Kane, Hardcore Holly, Steve Keirn, Ricky Steamboat. I will offer a common courtesy to John Cena and Randy Orton because I enjoy watching them perform. They have carried the company already, and will carry it into the future. Please do not ever let RESPECT for the industry die. If it does, so does the business. One day, when you are on top of the world and someone does not recognize your accomplishments, you will know what I am talking about.

 

This business is spitting out wrestlers rapidly. Many people can claim that they were a wrestler or were in the business, but few people can claim that they made a career out of wrestling. And those who can, all have RESPECT."

 

 

 

Good read.......

[Quasar 0]

Harry Smith is on "Hogan Knows Best" right now.

 

Hulk Hogan described him to Linda as a younger version of himself.

[Downhome 0]

To continue the story on Sabu and his place in WWE right now, read on. From PWInsider:

 

-Already mentioned is his showing up late to shows and sleeping at the tapings for several hours, all of which led to him being squashed by Umaga. To make matters worse, he did not work the recent ECW tapings. After the taping, there was going to be promotional stuff taped to promote for the Elimination Chamber match, to put over how dangerous and hardcore the match is, and Sabu blew it off. He just left the show, and was gone even before the RVD/Holly match took place. With the way things are still going, it doesn't look good for Sabu right now.

[Hawk 34 0]

What is wrong with Sabu? Wasn't it just a few months ago that Sabu felt like he had a new lease on life. I figured he would blow this chance since that's his nature to be selfish and unconcerned about his job.

 

Vince was a big mark for Sabu just six months ago and in that short of time, Sabu completely wasted his best opportunity.

[Downhome 0]

I love Sabu, always have, but I wont feel sorry for him at all if he blows this shot. His career was given new life, and he had Vince behind him, and now this. I don't see how anyone could feel sorry for the guy if he ends up totally fucking this up.

[Hawk 34 0]

I guess, in the end, Sabu fucked Sabu.

[MillenniumMan831 0]

The only thing Sabu has going for him is the fact that they can keep him in ECW and completely job him out to give others a tad more credibility (Knox, Thorn, Daivari, ect). That way, he'd still be getting a paycheck. He sure did job to Umaga like a loyal trooper.

[Jaxxson Mayhem 0]

So i take it

 

"ECW was built by rebels. But one ECW Extremist defied authority just a little too much at a recent Live Event and paid the price. I suppose it's all for the best...after all, someone has to open the curtain." - "The Sac" from the Holiday Edition on WWE Magazine

 

is about Sabu?

[Scroby 0]

I wonder if Sabu is just depressed with the way things have been going for him. I mean lets face it, ever since Summerslam, nothing has happen with Sabu. He hasn't done much since his feud with the Big Show. I could see why he's been acting the way he has, if he's really unhappy about his job in ECW so far.

 

From what I understand, wrestlers always get upset or depressed when their pushed so much, then all of a sudden, are pretty much dropped.

[The Niggardly King 0]

That article Dreamer wrote has reminded me about the entry Storm had written up earlier this year I believe... about

him telling his students on how to conduct themselves and there will be certain times that they're going to be screwed no matter what.

[BUTT 0]

Edge, Matt and Jeff Hardy. These young talents were all being groomed to be the next generation of stars. Without them, who even knows if there would even be a WWE.

 

What

[Dips 0]

The feeling backstage is that Sabu is lucky to have a job with WWE right now after several incidents that had WWE management furious. Sabu was initially punished by being squashed by Umaga on TV for showing up late to several shows and actually falling asleep backstage in the pre-production area.

 

As if he was not in enough heat already, there was yet another incident. After the ECW tapings he was supposed to film some promotional stuff for the December To Dismember PPV, but he blew it off. Apparently he was out of the building long before the end of the show.

 

Right now, all indications point to Sabu being released by WWE some time in the near future unless he can get his act together and turn things around.

 

 

 

===PWInsider

[Mike wanna be 0]

And Sabu should turn things around...why? ECW's going down the shitter and I'm assuming he's one of the highest-paid Extremists they have.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

The latest Observer says the current talk has Batista vs. Undertaker happening at Wrestlemania with Batista winning the title before then to make it Title vs. Streak, and the plan as it is now has Batista going over.

[Downhome 0]

I can't even think of the words to comment on that plan...

[RedJed 0]

Idiotic would be a start.......

 

Ending the streak for a guy who would be going over anyway in a title match if put in there with someone else? Thats so counterproductive I dont even know where to start. You would think Taker himself would be objecting to this down the road when/if this happens.

[Thanks for the Fish 0]

I don't mind the title vs streak storyline, however I HATE the idea of Undertaker losing his streak at all, especially at the hands of Batista. Let's hope Undertaker can use some of his political clout here...

 

I expect Batista to go monster heel sooner than later. I think he'll win the title at SS and then in a rematch vs Booker go full blown heel and destroy him to the point where we effectively see a double turn.

 

Detroit loves the Undertaker, so the match would be hot, however Batista going over is a terrible idea.

 

If they don't want to give Undertaker one last world title run, how about having a title vs streak feud but over the US title and versus Benoit?

 

Reguarding Sabu - the fact that he's probably one of the highest paid extremists is reason why he should clean up his act. I'm actually surprised he lasted this long as some wrestlers are made for the indie scene. To be honest, I think Sabu should be used more as a special attraction in ECW, because when you see him weekly he's sort of exposed as being rather limited in the ring.