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Kahran Ramsus    0

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Why do people use the fact that Cena isn't a Austin/Rock/Hogan draw as a knock against him?

 

You're comparing Cena to a level of popularity that you rarely see, and will be lucky to see anytime in the next fifty years.

 

The reason it's a knock is because Vince is trying to recapture the late '80s/late '90s (the eras of Hulk/Austin-Rock) on Cena's back.

It's a stupid knock. Big deal that Cena isn't a Austin/Rock/Hogan level draw. Almost nobody will get to that level again. Cena is a big enough draw that he makes WWE a ton of money, and makes himself a ton of money.

 

Goodfellas is crap, if only because The Godfather is better.

 

I never understood the idea that some people cling to where the pick the absolute highest mark of all time and then immediately blast anybody/thing who doesn't reach that mark. It is an idiotic line of thinking.

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tominator89    0

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Why do people use the fact that Cena isn't a Austin/Rock/Hogan draw as a knock against him?

 

You're comparing Cena to a level of popularity that you rarely see, and will be lucky to see anytime in the next fifty years.

 

The reason it's a knock is because Vince is trying to recapture the late '80s/late '90s (the eras of Hulk/Austin-Rock) on Cena's back.

It's a stupid knock. Big deal that Cena isn't a Austin/Rock/Hogan level draw. Almost nobody will get to that level again. Cena is a big enough draw that he makes WWE a ton of money, and makes himself a ton of money.

 

Goodfellas is crap, if only because The Godfather is better.

 

I never understood the idea that some people cling to where the pick the absolute highest mark of all time and then immediately blast anybody/thing who doesn't reach that mark. It is an idiotic line of thinking.

 

"To be the man, you gotta beat the man"

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Corkscrew_Senton    0

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Why do people use the fact that Cena isn't a Austin/Rock/Hogan draw as a knock against him?

 

You're comparing Cena to a level of popularity that you rarely see, and will be lucky to see anytime in the next fifty years.

 

The reason it's a knock is because Vince is trying to recapture the late '80s/late '90s (the eras of Hulk/Austin-Rock) on Cena's back.

It's a stupid knock. Big deal that Cena isn't a Austin/Rock/Hogan level draw. Almost nobody will get to that level again. Cena is a big enough draw that he makes WWE a ton of money, and makes himself a ton of money.

 

Goodfellas is crap, if only because The Godfather is better.

 

I never understood the idea that some people cling to where the pick the absolute highest mark of all time and then immediately blast anybody/thing who doesn't reach that mark. It is an idiotic line of thinking.

 

I gotta defend myself here. This is ridiculous, when did I "blast" Cena, first of all? All I did was point out that he gets noticeably booed. And if you're going to use the movie analogy, use something that has a sizeable and vocal contention to it. I think a far more even comparison would be comparing Austin to Godfather and Cena to a very popular/profitable but panned...like a Schwrazenegger action flick.

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UseTheSledgehammerUh    0

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At least Cena doesn't get hurt and/or disappear for months like HHH, Austin, Rock, Hulk, etc. did. I'd rather I consistent **** draw be around for every show then a ***** draw be out for half a year or more every other year.

 

Note: HHH is no ***** draw, but was MONEY during 2000, and one of the top heels ever at that time, so I put him with them. I no he's nowhere near their value.

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bob_barron    0

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Why do people use the fact that Cena isn't a Austin/Rock/Hogan draw as a knock against him?

 

You're comparing Cena to a level of popularity that you rarely see, and will be lucky to see anytime in the next fifty years.

 

The reason it's a knock is because Vince is trying to recapture the late '80s/late '90s (the eras of Hulk/Austin-Rock) on Cena's back.

It's a stupid knock. Big deal that Cena isn't a Austin/Rock/Hogan level draw. Almost nobody will get to that level again. Cena is a big enough draw that he makes WWE a ton of money, and makes himself a ton of money.

 

Hey.....where did Banky's post go?

 

If in 20 years we got three huge stars, why do you think in 50 years we won't have anyone of that caliber?

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Jaxxson Mayhem    0

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"Anyone know what standing room only is like at Wrestlemania? It's down by the 100's seats, but is it any good?"

 

This will sound stupid, but it will work. Bring a WWE inflatable chair with you. Seriously.

 

 

Dont have 1. If they say "Standing Room 100 Level", is that below or above the 100's seats?

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Hawk 34    0

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I'm really kicking myself for not taking up the big chance of hitting the trio this weekend with ROH and WM. It's a short drive and wasn't overly expensive.

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DangerousDamon    0

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I'm really kicking myself for not taking up the big chance of hitting the trio this weekend with ROH and WM. It's a short drive and wasn't overly expensive.

 

 

I'm about to try and order tickets for the ROH shows, if i get some, it'll be the best weekend of wrestling in my life.

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Guest NateW   

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The complaints regarding WWE pulling Batista from appearing at Devon's store are ridiculous. I guess these people bashing WWE should also ask why TNA would do something like stop Abyss from working a Detroit indy show during WrestleMania weekend.

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Guest robrabies   

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The problem I have with Cena is that Vince thinks he can turn Cena into the Rock by sheer force of will. The arrogance in that belief alone is enough to make me loathe both parties, and it isn't helped by the way that they have compromised their own immediate future by absolutely burying the entire roster to make Cena appear to be that which he isn't and he will never be. I'm still trying to figure out the rationale between keeping a guy in a top spot because he sells merchandise, when the merch spike from elevating 3 or 4 others to the position that he occupies and monopolizes would more than make up for the merchandise that you would lose if he was pushed down the card.

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Mecca    0

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If I never read another post about MMA/UFC killing wrestling it won't be to soon. I get so tired of hearing about that, if it didn't happen in Japan with all the shit that happened over there it won't happen here.

 

Me personally I find UFC boring, those 2 audiences have some overlap but it isn't the overlap some people seem to think it is.

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Hawk 34    0

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UFC will be a presence that WWE has to deal with. Get used to it. MMA is here to stay and it's the best thing to ever happen to WWE since TNA sure as fuck has no intention of truly challenging them.

 

UFC has already kicked WWE's ass at PPV's up and down for the last year and won't slow down any time.

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Guest robrabies   

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UFC will be a presence that WWE has to deal with. Get used to it. MMA is here to stay and it's the best thing to ever happen to WWE since TNA sure as fuck has no intention of truly challenging them.

 

UFC has already kicked WWE's ass at PPV's up and down for the last year and won't slow down any time.

 

Yeah, but it's hard to quantify if the loss in PPV buyrates is due to people choosing UFC over WWE, the WWE being on a decline, or the UFC as being the current hot shit.

 

To conflate that one company's PPV success has directly caused the PPV drop off of another is illogical, particularly when they cater to different audiences and one of those entities (The WWE) is in a recession after the greatest boom of its history.

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goldengreek    0

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The problem I have with Cena is that Vince thinks he can turn Cena into the Rock by sheer force of will. The arrogance in that belief alone is enough to make me loathe both parties, and it isn't helped by the way that they have compromised their own immediate future by absolutely burying the entire roster to make Cena appear to be that which he isn't and he will never be. I'm still trying to figure out the rationale between keeping a guy in a top spot because he sells merchandise, when the merch spike from elevating 3 or 4 others to the position that he occupies and monopolizes would more than make up for the merchandise that you would lose if he was pushed down the card.

I'm sure The Rock laughs and shakes his head at Cena's mic work and "charisma" Cena couldnt hold The Rocks jock strap

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King Cucaracha    0

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Why do people use the fact that Cena isn't a Austin/Rock/Hogan draw as a knock against him?

 

Because it's clear that's what WWE top brass believe he is and that's what he's being pushed as, rather than being pushed on his own merits (which are there, don't get me wrong), as himself. Which is why it makes an easy comparison. If they let Cena be Cena instead of the Cena who tries to be The Rock in all his interviews, with the Austin 'controversial face' shtick and the near-Hogan level of vulnerability, chances are people wouldn't compare them as much.

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Lt. Al Giardello    0

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Not really, if The Rock were able to come back for a few $$$ matches, Cena would be one of the top people he would truly want to put over.

 

Excatly.

 

The one thing I dislike about Pro Wrestling fans is their short-term memories. John Cena just a couple years ago problay was the most charismatic wrestler in the whole WWE. The whole "8 Mile" gimmick was a huge success, and is the reason why Cena is a main eventer now. I remember back then how everyone, including the smarks were saying how Cena should be a main eventer.

 

Now I know that that cut that gimmick, and now John Cena isn't as good as he was with that gimmick, but he still is getting it done. He still draws a reaction, weather it's good or bad. Even when it's a bad reaction Cena has proved time and time again he is able to adapt to it and still have the fans in the palm of his hands, I.E. Wrestlemania 22 and ECW ONS:II.

 

Me personally, I'm glad to have him as an WWE superstar, he goes out and and busts his ass to put on the best wrestling match possible, even with his limited wrestling ability. Sure he might not be The Rock, or Stone Cold, but really, who cares? That's how wrestlers start to become unsucessful, is when you guys try to compare so and so to so and so. Why does John Cena have to be the next Rock or Stone Cold? Why can't he be the next John Cena?

 

I say the same shit when my homies try to compare Kobe, LeBron or Wade to MJ. Why does Kobe, LeBron, or Wade have to be the next Jordan? Why can't they be the next Kobe, the next LeBron or the next Wade?

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King Cucaracha    0

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Me personally, I'm glad to have him as an WWE superstar, he goes out and and busts his ass to put on the best wrestling match possible, even with his limited wrestling ability. Sure he might not be The Rock, or Stone Cold, but really, who cares? That's how wrestlers start to become unsucessful, is when you guys try to compare so and so to so and so. Why does John Cena have to be the next Rock or Stone Cold? Why can't he be the next John Cena?

 

Because he's not booked as the next John Cena. He's booked as the next Rock or next Stone Cold. It's not his fault, he clearly tries and clearly cares about wrestling which is admirable. But you can't expect people not to compare him to Rock or Austin when it's clearly, clearly what WWE are trying to turn him into.

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Black Lushus    0

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They're pushing Cena as the top star in their company. That's all I'm seeing. Other than no longer doing freestyles (whch he should have done on Monday rather than the promo we got), he IS being himself.

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luke-o    0

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They're pushing Cena as the top star in their company. That's all I'm seeing. Other than no longer doing freestyles (whch he should have done on Monday rather than the promo we got), he IS being himself.

 

Unfortunatly, being himself is being a twat.

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