So.....I need a new job.....

[Black Lushus 0]

My point is that there's lots and lots of lucrative work out there that doesn't require a college degree. The belief that college=a good-paying job is so wrong. Is working in a soap factory doctor/lawyer money? No, but it's an easy market to get into, and you can live quite comfortably on common sense and a good work ethic.

 

I have about 4 years in at my current job, and my wages are comparable to a lot of people I went to high school with that spent the last 4 years in school, plus I don't have a huge fucking debt to deal with.

 

Lushus, you specifically used the title "production manager." You in distribution, too?

 

I agree with your post AoO as I have very little college time and have pretty much been working since straight out of High School (I've only had two jobs in 12 years, the first one I left voluntarily)...the only setback is that most times you'll have to start off at a lower level and work your way back up should you switch jobs somewhere down the road without a degree to back you up.

 

yeah, I manage about 80 or so people for a distribution center of a department store.

[Guest Agent of Oblivion]

In that environment, experience almost always counts more than the piece of collegiate paper.

 

How long were you in the trenches before landing a computer and a clipboard? I did about two and a half before being handed a freezing shipping/receiving dock and a couple dozen coverall clad machine operators.

 

Do you guys pick on voice activated gear where you are?

 

Lets talk shop while the thread-starter applies at the nearest temp agency.

[Black Lushus 0]

In that environment, experience almost always counts more than the piece of collegiate paper.

 

How long were you in the trenches before landing a computer and a clipboard? I did about two and a half before being handed a freezing shipping/receiving dock and a couple dozen coverall clad machine operators.

 

Do you guys pick on voice activated gear where you are?

 

Lets talk shop while the thread-starter applies at the nearest temp agency.

 

here's the hierarchy: Director--->managers----area leads----->area assistants---->production.

 

I started as an area assistant and did that for close to two years...my manager was being moved to another area and he recommended me to the Director as his replacement and I got the job based off of my time put in with the company as well as my past experience as a supervisor from my previous job.

 

we do not use voice activated gear here...we thought about it, but there's too much power equipment traffic around where we'd use it that we figured it would cause too much interference...we use scanners and RF watches for picking.

[randomguy 0]

If you do quit your current job give ample notice, at least two weeks if not more. No point burning any bridges.

[Vampiro69 0]

If you do quit your current job give ample notice, at least two weeks if not more. No point burning any bridges.

 

Good idea. I can't believe how many people burn bridges by just quiting and walking straight out the door. One it leaves the business in a bad place and two, it ruins any chance of getting a solid job reference.

[Guest Princess Leena]

Dhanny, do you work at Walmart.

[EdwardKnoxII 0]

Is there a Convergys around where you live? Cause if there is apply there they'll take ANYONE. Really.

[Mecca 0]

Is there a Convergys around where you live? Cause if there is apply there they'll take ANYONE. Really.

 

Well I live in KC Missouri and I've never seen one of those......

 

I don't know if I'm even going to make it another 2 weeks with this job....of course I don't think it will matter that much since I'm going to go back to school and I'll just say I had to quit for school and the hours didn't work then, which would be true. I don't think anyone is going to look down on me for quitting to go to school.

[Black Lushus 0]

Dhanny, do you work at Walmart.

 

No.

[Guest Agent of Oblivion]

I work for one of their bigger competitors.

[Guest ResidentEvil]

My point is that there's lots and lots of lucrative work out there that doesn't require a college degree. The belief that college=a good-paying job is so wrong. Is working in a soap factory doctor/lawyer money? No, but it's an easy market to get into, and you can live quite comfortably on common sense and a good work ethic.

 

I have about 4 years in at my current job, and my wages are comparable to a lot of people I went to high school with that spent the last 4 years in school, plus I don't have a huge fucking debt to deal with.

 

Lushus, you specifically used the title "production manager." You in distribution, too?

 

What do you do in a soap factory and what kind of money can you make at it Agent of Oblivion? Where are most of the soap factories at?

[Guest Agent of Oblivion]

I suppose working in a soap factory, one would make soap. Wages probably range around $9-$13(US) per hour at the starting level, ranging to about 45-60K per year in management. For more information, try the yellow pages or your local library.

[FroGG_NeaL 0]

[Big Ol' Smitty 0]

Hey, does anybody know anything about becoming a mailman?

[Mr. S£im Citrus 0]

Don't work for Verizon, unless you have a high tolerance for people that are completely ignorant of computers that love to ask stupid questions and say things like "well, it worked just fine before I switched to..." ... which I personally didn't realize that I lacked, until after I took this job...

[UZI Suicide 0]

What's wrong with overnight stocking?

 

I did it one summer when I was a teenager and personally, I loved it.

 

I mean, you can basically do nothing most of the time. I just kind of went off and did my own thing, like I'd go off by myself and stock the sodas really slowly, so I took like two hours to do it. Usually I'd just play games on my cell phone and then if I saw or heard someone coming, I'd go back to stocking the sodas.

 

If I wasn't doing something like that, I'd just kind of dick around and walk from place to place doing little things, but not ever really stopping at one station and doing anything significant.

 

Basically, out of the 7 hour shift I had, I spent maybe 3 of the hours doing any actual work. One of the best jobs I ever had.

[Epic Reine 0]

The point of college is to eventually get a job to do what you like doing. I doubt anyone wants to work in a soap factory (or ANY factory for that matter) so they just take the jobs because of the money. If you don't know or care about something you like doing 20 years from now then yea, college isn't for you. I don't want to work in a factory hence why I'm in school.

[Big Ol' Smitty 0]

Well, what's your job?

[Spaceman Spiff 0]

Ha ha - butcher, new blood.

[Mecca 0]

What's wrong with overnight stocking?

 

I did it one summer when I was a teenager and personally, I loved it.

 

I mean, you can basically do nothing most of the time. I just kind of went off and did my own thing, like I'd go off by myself and stock the sodas really slowly, so I took like two hours to do it. Usually I'd just play games on my cell phone and then if I saw or heard someone coming, I'd go back to stocking the sodas.

 

If I wasn't doing something like that, I'd just kind of dick around and walk from place to place doing little things, but not ever really stopping at one station and doing anything significant.

 

Basically, out of the 7 hour shift I had, I spent maybe 3 of the hours doing any actual work. One of the best jobs I ever had.

 

Because this store is cheap.......the only people that do it are me and 2 other guys. And they are obsessed with getting everything done every night. Not to mention the day people don't touch the trucks so you can't get away with not doing anything. Like last night it was me and 1 other guy and the entire back room was full of freight from 2 trucks and they expect us to get that done....Oh and in the people that stack the pallets during the day just stack anything you can imagine together so you have to walk around the entire store to unload a pallet.

 

Then if you complain to a boss about how ridiculously bad the pallets are stacked, they actually get worse like the day people go "fuck those night guys" and make them worse on purpose. Let's not mention the hours I get are fucking stupid. I work 4-5 days a week but only magine 25-32 hours because of the ridiculously stupid scheduling to avoid giving people full time.

 

There are just numerous things about the job I hate that piss me off to no end. What makes it humerous is a good friend of mine works there and is always like "you need to go faster". Like I'm going to kill myself for the shitty pay and shitty hours.

 

Also no one who is in charge knows anything, if you have a question they seriously have no answer for it. I'd like to know how the store even runs properly. Whoever orders is a dope and doesn't know how to order shit, we have a ton of or things we don't need. Like we got 2 pallets of lawn & garden the other day...how's that make any sense? Then if you ask who's ordering no one knows....or they won't say that they do.

 

Then they have other people running around trying to start shit thinking they are in charge and they just purposely say shit when they come in to you like they are your boss when they aren't.

 

See why I dislike it now?

[Guest Agent of Oblivion]

Shut up and stock. There's your answers.

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

Moving up and about > Dealing with customers.

[Guest Princess Leena]

It's a grocery store job. Stop caring. You're taking shit too seriously.

 

Stock some. Fuck around some. Do whatever makes the time go by. They fire you? So what.

[Mecca 0]

It's a grocery store job. Stop caring. You're taking shit too seriously.

 

Stock some. Fuck around some. Do whatever makes the time go by. They fire you? So what.

 

That is exactly how I take it but the people I work with take it to seriously. If you do it like that which I have been they start flipping out about how we have to get things done. I honestly could careless if they fire me but these guys act like things are life and death and I'm just like shut the fuck up I don't care.

[Hawk 34 0]

What's wrong with overnight stocking?

 

I did it one summer when I was a teenager and personally, I loved it.

 

I mean, you can basically do nothing most of the time. I just kind of went off and did my own thing, like I'd go off by myself and stock the sodas really slowly, so I took like two hours to do it. Usually I'd just play games on my cell phone and then if I saw or heard someone coming, I'd go back to stocking the sodas.

 

If I wasn't doing something like that, I'd just kind of dick around and walk from place to place doing little things, but not ever really stopping at one station and doing anything significant.

 

Basically, out of the 7 hour shift I had, I spent maybe 3 of the hours doing any actual work. One of the best jobs I ever had.

 

Because this store is cheap.......the only people that do it are me and 2 other guys. And they are obsessed with getting everything done every night. Not to mention the day people don't touch the trucks so you can't get away with not doing anything. Like last night it was me and 1 other guy and the entire back room was full of freight from 2 trucks and they expect us to get that done....Oh and in the people that stack the pallets during the day just stack anything you can imagine together so you have to walk around the entire store to unload a pallet.

 

Then if you complain to a boss about how ridiculously bad the pallets are stacked, they actually get worse like the day people go "fuck those night guys" and make them worse on purpose. Let's not mention the hours I get are fucking stupid. I work 4-5 days a week but only magine 25-32 hours because of the ridiculously stupid scheduling to avoid giving people full time.

 

There are just numerous things about the job I hate that piss me off to no end. What makes it humerous is a good friend of mine works there and is always like "you need to go faster". Like I'm going to kill myself for the shitty pay and shitty hours.

 

Also no one who is in charge knows anything, if you have a question they seriously have no answer for it. I'd like to know how the store even runs properly. Whoever orders is a dope and doesn't know how to order shit, we have a ton of or things we don't need. Like we got 2 pallets of lawn & garden the other day...how's that make any sense? Then if you ask who's ordering no one knows....or they won't say that they do.

 

Then they have other people running around trying to start shit thinking they are in charge and they just purposely say shit when they come in to you like they are your boss when they aren't.

 

See why I dislike it now?

 

You dislike it because it's like any other work environment you'll ever see?

 

You have a fairly easy job where you can afford to be lazy and spend the time not working to discredit the management. Stocking is one of the easiest jobs you can have and yet, you fret about having to move certain things in a certain way. Is the company supposed to alter everything to suit your needs? No.

 

The store isn’t cheap when it only has 3 people doing stocking detail and why shouldn’t they be “obsessed” about you doing your job?

 

You wonder why the day people make it harder? Its because word gets down that the night guys are bitching, so of course, they aren’t going to care about it. It’s called politics, you play it in every job.

 

You have people telling you are lazy at your job, generally people, especially co-workers aren’t going to address that directly to you but when they do, it’s not a good thing.

 

You spent a lot of time ragging the management and you should know (Lushus and Agent, probably will attest) that this doesn’t solve anything. I used to assume that management was nothing but a bunch of idiots but once I got into the management role, I quickly learned that it was more often the fault of the guys on the floor for whatever went wrong.

 

I don’t know what type of job you can maintain when you admit to being a lazy worker and have no idea how to work with management. You claim to have a wish to work in radio but it’s not any different there then it is.

[Guest Princess Leena]

It's a grocery store job. Stop caring. You're taking shit too seriously.

 

Stock some. Fuck around some. Do whatever makes the time go by. They fire you? So what.

 

That is exactly how I take it but the people I work with take it to seriously. If you do it like that which I have been they start flipping out about how we have to get things done. I honestly could careless if they fire me but these guys act like things are life and death and I'm just like shut the fuck up I don't care.

But, you do care. You're obviously very unhappy.

 

I don’t know what type of job you can maintain when you admit to being a lazy worker and have no idea how to work with management. You claim to have a wish to work in radio but it’s not any different there then it is.

I doubt he'd be a lazy worker at a real job.

 

And I feel for managers at shitty retail jobs like this, because you're damned with any approach you take.

[Mecca 0]

What's wrong with overnight stocking?

 

I did it one summer when I was a teenager and personally, I loved it.

 

I mean, you can basically do nothing most of the time. I just kind of went off and did my own thing, like I'd go off by myself and stock the sodas really slowly, so I took like two hours to do it. Usually I'd just play games on my cell phone and then if I saw or heard someone coming, I'd go back to stocking the sodas.

 

If I wasn't doing something like that, I'd just kind of dick around and walk from place to place doing little things, but not ever really stopping at one station and doing anything significant.

 

Basically, out of the 7 hour shift I had, I spent maybe 3 of the hours doing any actual work. One of the best jobs I ever had.

 

Because this store is cheap.......the only people that do it are me and 2 other guys. And they are obsessed with getting everything done every night. Not to mention the day people don't touch the trucks so you can't get away with not doing anything. Like last night it was me and 1 other guy and the entire back room was full of freight from 2 trucks and they expect us to get that done....Oh and in the people that stack the pallets during the day just stack anything you can imagine together so you have to walk around the entire store to unload a pallet.

 

Then if you complain to a boss about how ridiculously bad the pallets are stacked, they actually get worse like the day people go "fuck those night guys" and make them worse on purpose. Let's not mention the hours I get are fucking stupid. I work 4-5 days a week but only magine 25-32 hours because of the ridiculously stupid scheduling to avoid giving people full time.

 

There are just numerous things about the job I hate that piss me off to no end. What makes it humerous is a good friend of mine works there and is always like "you need to go faster". Like I'm going to kill myself for the shitty pay and shitty hours.

 

Also no one who is in charge knows anything, if you have a question they seriously have no answer for it. I'd like to know how the store even runs properly. Whoever orders is a dope and doesn't know how to order shit, we have a ton of or things we don't need. Like we got 2 pallets of lawn & garden the other day...how's that make any sense? Then if you ask who's ordering no one knows....or they won't say that they do.

 

Then they have other people running around trying to start shit thinking they are in charge and they just purposely say shit when they come in to you like they are your boss when they aren't.

 

See why I dislike it now?

 

You dislike it because it's like any other work environment you'll ever see?

 

You have a fairly easy job where you can afford to be lazy and spend the time not working to discredit the management. Stocking is one of the easiest jobs you can have and yet, you fret about having to move certain things in a certain way. Is the company supposed to alter everything to suit your needs? No.

 

The store isn’t cheap when it only has 3 people doing stocking detail and why shouldn’t they be “obsessed” about you doing your job?

 

You wonder why the day people make it harder? Its because word gets down that the night guys are bitching, so of course, they aren’t going to care about it. It’s called politics, you play it in every job.

 

You have people telling you are lazy at your job, generally people, especially co-workers aren’t going to address that directly to you but when they do, it’s not a good thing.

 

You spent a lot of time ragging the management and you should know (Lushus and Agent, probably will attest) that this doesn’t solve anything. I used to assume that management was nothing but a bunch of idiots but once I got into the management role, I quickly learned that it was more often the fault of the guys on the floor for whatever went wrong.

 

I don’t know what type of job you can maintain when you admit to being a lazy worker and have no idea how to work with management. You claim to have a wish to work in radio but it’s not any different there then it is.

 

I think you are taking my post wrong......the day people are suppose to stack the pallets according to where things are in the store it is part of their job. I've done this before somewhere else, if you had ever stacked a pallet like these guys do you'd have had your ass reamed by the boss for it. It is a huge waste of time when you have to drag a pallet all around the store to unload it, then they wanna ask why you didn't get everything done.

 

The reason I rag on management is because they are all young people who got promoted at once and geuinly don't know what they are doing. I'm not lying, they really don't know what they're doing. This one guy speaks such broken english no one can understand him...3 times in 2 weeks he didn't set the alarm and night and didn't lock the door, he's putting us in personal jeopardy doing that.

 

Like I said I had done this sort of work before and it wasn't nearly like this everyone did their job filled their role and everything ran smoothly. Here it's like people running around like chickens with their heads cut off. Is it unreasonable to expect one of the managers to know who orders for the store? I was simply going to ask why we are ordering lawn and garden at the end of September and all of that stuff is going on clearance. The ordering problem is major we get freight that honestly has no where to go. It's like they see it's low on the shelf and order it without checking in the back room and seeing there are 10 boxes back there so here comes more on the truck.

 

My point was simply 2-3 people can not roll 25 pallets of freight when they aren't stacked properly. If they'd take the extra 30 minutes when stacking them to look at where they go we might be able to roll that many with so few people. It doesn't help that also half the time they are stacked so poorly you put the jack in to pull them and they start tipping over.

 

The job itself isn't that bad it's just like a ship with no direction. I'll be fully honest the hours thing pisses me off. Working 4-5 days only getting 24-30 hours is stupid as hell if you ask me. It's being part time but almost working full time.

 

My friend just tells me I'm lazy because he thinks we can get 20 pallets done between the 2 of us when it's impossible with the way they're stacked so I don't even try to now because it is pointless.

 

I think my favorite part is how the AC is turned off at night regardless of the temp so during the summer you feel like you are going to die.

[Mecca 0]

It's a grocery store job. Stop caring. You're taking shit too seriously.

 

Stock some. Fuck around some. Do whatever makes the time go by. They fire you? So what.

 

That is exactly how I take it but the people I work with take it to seriously. If you do it like that which I have been they start flipping out about how we have to get things done. I honestly could careless if they fire me but these guys act like things are life and death and I'm just like shut the fuck up I don't care.

But, you do care. You're obviously very unhappy.

 

I don’t know what type of job you can maintain when you admit to being a lazy worker and have no idea how to work with management. You claim to have a wish to work in radio but it’s not any different there then it is.

I doubt he'd be a lazy worker at a real job.

 

And I feel for managers at shitty retail jobs like this, because you're damned with any approach you take.

 

I'd feel for management alot more if they showed some semblence of trying.....let me give you a couple of examples of what goes on here it's far worse than any other job I've ever worked. I already mentioned the one who speaks broken english and made a major foul up in not locking the door, that a huge offense....Another manager last week no called and no showed twice, a manager did this! They had no clue where she was for 2 days.

 

Also fun stuff that goes on at this job, they want something changed and no one tells us they just decide to yell at us a week later "we don't do that anymore" like we should just know. There is 0 communication between people in this store. Just the other night the schedule was screwed up the reason for it? The 2 female managers don't like each other so 1 purposely screwed with it because she dislikes the one who made it......

 

Like I said I ask a manager who's doing the ordering so I can get an honest answer about why we order stuff we don't need and no one knows who orders, I mean cmon. We order things we don't carry or new stuff we don't have a spot for that we aren't informed is coming.

 

It's like Vince Russo runs the store.....

[Big Ol' Smitty 0]

I'm a butcher. While physically demanding it's stress free, a job that is in constant demand, is easy to learn and because there is comparison to other fields much less 'new blood' there is great job security.

 

How did you get into the butcher game? I'm planning on quitting my job tomorrow, so I'm curious.

[Guest Agent of Oblivion]

You spent a lot of time ragging the management and you should know (Lushus and Agent, probably will attest) that this doesn’t solve anything. I used to assume that management was nothing but a bunch of idiots but once I got into the management role, I quickly learned that it was more often the fault of the guys on the floor for whatever went wrong.

 

I don’t know what type of job you can maintain when you admit to being a lazy worker and have no idea how to work with management.

 

This entire post hit the nail on the head. You, as an hourly chimp with a box cutter, are the most replaceable thing in the universe. For the record, if you three are worth a shit, you can easily do 25 pallets in an entire NIGHT. I've worked in distribution, stocking shelves, loading/unloading trucks for the past ten years or so.

 

3 guys, 25 pallets (shoddy stack job or not) sorted by commodity is a cakewalk. That's eight pallets for two of you and nine for the fastest guy/whoever you want to fuck over, which breaks down to a pallet per hour. What's the caseload per pallet? 150 cases or so? I know when we pick them at the warehouse, most orders are around 150-300 cases split between 2 pallets, covering everything from general items to groceries, not counting the pharmacy, tobacco, and piece-pick stuff. You should be glad they sort the stuff even somewhat, and get the product off the truck.

 

If you're talking Wal-Mart, those all come in as floor loads as far as I know, so when they get received, that shift is manually taking every single case and palletizing it for the stockers.

 

I go back to my original statement. Quit Bitching and Stock.