2006-07 MLB Offseason Thread

[Guest Felonies!]

GEE YA THINK

 

The more I listen to him call games, the more I hang my head in shame. Hendry is a big fat idiot. This is Dusty Baker without the ability to handle the oppressive heat of day games.

 

What I don't get is that Piniella turned down the Nats job because he wants a team that's poised to win. SO HE GOES TO THE FUCKING CHICAGO CUBS?

[Bruiser Chong 0]

The problem is, the team's still convinced it's going to be competing in 2007. Granted, the NL Central is going to be in shambles, but there isn't enough this team can do this off-season towards building a team that can compete for years. A complete tear-down isn't necessary, but it's stupid that the team believes the fans won't accept a rebuilding process. I mean, the team lost 96 games this year and they didn't even have the silver-lining of rebuilding. Just do it already.

[CanadianChris 0]

The Cubs won't be competing for anything other than the league's worst record.

 

I don't get the mentality of the Cubs owners. YOU'RE IN CHICAGO! Spend the money already! Don't go halfway and spend a little money to try and fool the fans into believing you're doing something. The Cubs should be competing with the big spenders for the top free agents, not settling for second- and third-tier guys and patting themselves on the back for all the money they saved.

[snuffbox 0]

Spending more & more money works for the Yankees!

[devo 0]

I'm pretty sure Cub fans would be delighted with what Yankee fans call failure.

[snuffbox 0]

Everyone else would, but I really don't think spending 200 million is the best course for the Cubs. They need a better manager, healthier pitchers, smarter acquisitions, and a lot of luck.

 

Signing high-priced free agents solely to build a personal all star team doesn't seem to be the answer in MLB.

[Guest Felonies!]

I don't know how many times I have to say it, guys. The Cubs DO spend more than most teams in baseball.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Glendon Rusch. The problem is not a lack of spending, it's how it's spent. Oh sweet lord, it's how it's spent.

[snuffbox 0]

Glendon Rusch is my favorie Cubs pitcher!

[Guest Felonies!]

Then let's send him up the Tri-State Tollway so the Brewers can be stuck with him.

[the max 0]

No way those small-market Brewers could handle that contract.

[snuffbox 0]

Sodomy/murder/sodomy, in that order.

[CanadianChris 0]

I don't know how many times I have to say it, guys. The Cubs DO spend more than most teams in baseball.

 

On Glendon Rusch. The problem is not a lack of spending, it's how it's spent. Oh sweet lord, it's how it's spent.

Exactly my point. The Cubs make token noise that they might be interested in some of the top guys, then pass and blow their wad on lesser guys. They don't have to spend like the Yankees, but it'd be nice to see them go after SOME top players.

[naiwf 0]

I thought you were supposed to unconditionally support your teams.

 

Maybe that's just a regional difference. When the Yankees sucked in the '80s, no one went to the stadium. When the Mets sucked in the '90s, no one went to the stadium. Now that the Knicks are a pro sports laughingstock, no one goes to MSG. As stated before, football is different but New Yorkers don't unconditionally support anything. Perhaps it's just based on the fact that there are literally hundreds of things one can do with their entertainment buck, but I can say with 100% certainty that if Steinbrenner passes and the Yankees go in the shitter, you won't be seeing 4 million people at Yankee Stadium. They'd be lucky to get half of that and we all know how much Yankee fans live and breathe for their team right now.

[snuffbox 0]

NYC is a slightly different town than most.

[Guest Felonies!]

Well, That Other Team's fans are practically holed up in bomb shelters if they aren't 20 games over .500, so I dunno if it's a regional thing. It's not as if Chicago is devoid of entertainment, either. Cubs fans just stick with their team. If the Cardinals ever stopped being contenders (hah), I'm sure their fans would support the team unconditionally too.

[The Man in Blak 0]

Well, That Other Team's fans are practically holed up in bomb shelters if they aren't 20 games over .500, so I dunno if it's a regional thing. It's not as if Chicago is devoid of entertainment, either. Cubs fans just stick with their team. If the Cardinals ever stopped being contenders (hah), I'm sure their fans would support the team unconditionally too.

 

IIRC, the Cardinals still drew around league average attendance numbers during the lean years in the mid-90's, right before LaRussa came on board. Of course, that "lean year" period is about two years, surrounded by a pretty good number of seasons where the team finished above .500.

[Guest]

 

I thought you were supposed to unconditionally support your teams.

Now that the Knicks are a pro sports laughingstock, no one goes to MSG. As stated before, football is different but New Yorkers don't unconditionally support anything.

The same Knicks that sold over 96% of the tickets for last season aren't supported. I'm assuming that you're talking about a different Knicks, and not the ones that play in New York.

[Guest Felonies!]

St. Louis hasn't had many managers recently, have they? Herzog, Torre, and La Russa all had long runs.

 

 

EDIT: Why does Wikipedia say that Red Schoendienst managed the team in 1980 and 1990, in the middle of Herzog's run? Well the obvious answer would be "because he did"

[Bored 0]

They had a couple of interim managers in there but otherwise it's been those three over the last 25 years.

[naiwf 0]

 

I thought you were supposed to unconditionally support your teams.

Now that the Knicks are a pro sports laughingstock, no one goes to MSG. As stated before, football is different but New Yorkers don't unconditionally support anything.

The same Knicks that sold over 96% of the tickets for last season aren't supported. I'm assuming that you're talking about a different Knicks, and not the ones that play in New York.

 

Tickets sold and tickets used are not the same thing. The vast majority of Knicks tickets are sold to corporations who use them to woo clients. When a team is the drizzling shits, those tickets don't have the same value. Watch a game at MSG and guesstimate how many seats are empty and then try not to laugh when the announced attendance is near 19,763. There was a game I saw towards the end of last year where the attendance was listed at 17,000+ and there MAY have been 5,000 - 6,000 people in the building. The Nets do the same thing. You can now walk up to MSG the day of a game and get a seat from the box office for almost any team besides Miami, the Lakers and Cleveland. That was unthinkable as little as 5 or 6 years ago.

[The Man in Blak 0]

Herzog was canned after the Cardinals stumbled out to a 33-47 record in 1990 and Schoendienst was brought in as an interim manager for 24 games until the Cardinals settled on Torre, who managed for the next five years.

[Guest]

 

I thought you were supposed to unconditionally support your teams.

Now that the Knicks are a pro sports laughingstock, no one goes to MSG. As stated before, football is different but New Yorkers don't unconditionally support anything.

The same Knicks that sold over 96% of the tickets for last season aren't supported. I'm assuming that you're talking about a different Knicks, and not the ones that play in New York.

 

Tickets sold and tickets used are not the same thing. The vast majority of Knicks tickets are sold to corporations who use them to woo clients. When a team is the drizzling shits, those tickets don't have the same value. Watch a game at MSG and guesstimate how many seats are empty and then try not to laugh when the announced attendance is near 19,763. There was a game I saw towards the end of last year where the attendance was listed at 17,000+ and there MAY have been 5,000 - 6,000 people in the building. The Nets do the same thing. You can now walk up to MSG the day of a game and get a seat from the box office for almost any team besides Miami, the Lakers and Cleveland. That was unthinkable as little as 5 or 6 years ago.

It means nothing. The money is going into ownership's pockets regardless.

[Bored 0]

Juan Uribe and his brother are reportedly being sought after by Dominican authorties for shooting two men, although neither fatally.

[Guest Felonies!]

Juan Uribe and his brother are reportedly being sought after by Dominican authorties for shooting two men, although neither fatally.

I always confuse with Pablo Ozuna. So, he gawn?

[Bruiser Chong 0]

He was in the doghouse there, anyway.

[vivalaultra 0]

That Uribe thing reminded me...did anything ever come of Ugeth Urbina attempting to murder those people?

[devo 0]

All I can find is that he's been jailed. Don't know if he's been convicted or is still awaiting trail.

[Guest NYankees]

 

I thought you were supposed to unconditionally support your teams.

 

Maybe that's just a regional difference. When the Yankees sucked in the '80s, no one went to the stadium. When the Mets sucked in the '90s, no one went to the stadium. Now that the Knicks are a pro sports laughingstock, no one goes to MSG. As stated before, football is different but New Yorkers don't unconditionally support anything. Perhaps it's just based on the fact that there are literally hundreds of things one can do with their entertainment buck, but I can say with 100% certainty that if Steinbrenner passes and the Yankees go in the shitter, you won't be seeing 4 million people at Yankee Stadium. They'd be lucky to get half of that and we all know how much Yankee fans live and breathe for their team right now.

 

 

I love how people always say the Yankees sucked in the 1980's. The Yankees had the overall best record out of any team in baseball for the 1980's. They made the playoffs in 80 and 81. The Yankees also played in a tough AL East were several years they had a better record than the AL West winner even though the Yankees didn't win their division. They were contenders in every year except for 88 and 89 and people always say the Yankees sucked in the 1980s.

[Guest Smues]

 

I thought you were supposed to unconditionally support your teams.

 

Maybe that's just a regional difference. When the Yankees sucked in the '80s, no one went to the stadium. When the Mets sucked in the '90s, no one went to the stadium. Now that the Knicks are a pro sports laughingstock, no one goes to MSG. As stated before, football is different but New Yorkers don't unconditionally support anything. Perhaps it's just based on the fact that there are literally hundreds of things one can do with their entertainment buck, but I can say with 100% certainty that if Steinbrenner passes and the Yankees go in the shitter, you won't be seeing 4 million people at Yankee Stadium. They'd be lucky to get half of that and we all know how much Yankee fans live and breathe for their team right now.

 

 

I love how people always say the Yankees sucked in the 1980's. The Yankees had the overall best record out of any team in baseball for the 1980's. They made the playoffs in 80 and 81. The Yankees also played in a tough AL East were several years they had a better record than the AL West winner even though the Yankees didn't win their division. They were contenders in every year except for 88 and 89 and people always say the Yankees sucked in the 1980s.

 

Save that quote for the next time someone accuses you of being Anglesault. He always used to say that the 80's were the Yankees dark ages.

[Precious Roy 0]

The 80's were the only decade the Yankees didn't win a championship.