BCS Rankings 10/15

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1. Ohio State

2. USC

3. Michigan

4. Auburn

5. West Virginia

6. Florida

7. Louisville

8. Notre Dame

9. Texas

10. California

 

Waiting to find out the rest of the rankings since FOX only showed the Top 10.

[CanadianChris 0]

11 Tennessee

12 Clemson

13 Arkansas

14 Oregon

15 Boise State

16 Rutgers

17 Nebraska

18 LSU

19 Georgia Tech

20 Boston College

21 Wisconsin

22 Oklahoma

23 Iowa

24 Missouri

25 Tulsa

[Urban Warfare 0]

-Good to see Florida didn't free fall after the loss, as they should win out.

 

-USC should not be number two.

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Computer ranking notes.

 

-USC is #1 in all but one of them.

-Ohio State is #3 in all but one of them.

-West Virginia is #14 overall.

-Rutgers is #10 overall.

-Tulsa is #20 overall which is why they cracked the Top 25 despite not even having a vote in the Coaches poll.

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Finally, Wisconsin moves ahead of Iowa.

 

USC has to be #2 because they are USC.

[CanadianChris 0]

USC has to be #2 because they are USC.

What, do the computers give USC a special "USC bonus" or something? That's why they're #2.

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That's the only possible reason.

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USC is #2 because they've played the toughest schedule of the unbeatens, plain and simple. All the whining about them is going to be moot because they are unlikely to go undefeated but if they manage to do so they will deserve to go the Fiesta Bowl, Take 2.

[snuffbox 0]

USC should play Iowa in the 'mindlessly overrated bowl' or something.

[iggymcfly 0]

It's pretty simple really. The computers aren't allowed to take margin of victory into account. All they see is that USC beat Arkansas, Nebraska, Washington State, and Washington.

 

The fact that the Trojans didn't play any I-AA or mid-major opponents helps them a lot too, as the computers don't tend to overweight the top part of the schedule as much as humans do.

[gWIL 0]

Michigan is the real #2. You know they'll find a way to move Michigan up to #2 before they play Ohio State.

[Guest]

USC is number #2 because they beat #13 Arkansas and #17 Nebraska. I'm sorry that we don't play Bowling Green, Vanderbilt, Middle Tennessee State or some of the other assorted trash that the other undefeateds schedule.

 

Everyone's going to lose a game anyway, so these arguments won't mean a fucking thing. By the end of the year, it's going to be a complete mess.

[cabbageboy 0]

I won't bitch too much about U of L being unbeaten and behind two teams with 1 loss. It doesn't really matter at this point anyway. If U of L beats WVU then there's no way not to move up to #4 in the BCS (even the BCS couldn't justify the Cards being behind 3 teams with 1 loss). From that point it'd just be a matter of USC losing to someone, since Michigan or Ohio St. has to go down.

 

Of course this all could be a leap of faith given that horrendous performance vs. Cincy yesterday.

[gWIL 0]

USC is number #2 because they beat #13 Arkansas and #17 Nebraska. I'm sorry that we don't play Bowling Green, Vanderbilt, Middle Tennessee State or some of the other assorted trash that the other undefeateds schedule.

 

Everyone's going to lose a game anyway, so these arguments won't mean a fucking thing. By the end of the year, it's going to be a complete mess.

 

Michigan should be #2 because they ass raped #8 Notre Dame in South Bend, and easily beat #21 Wisconsin and yesterday beat an always tough Penn State at Penn State.

 

USC struggled against Washington, Washington State and Arizona State.

[Art Sandusky 0]

Notre Dame isn't that good.

 

People also seem to have magically forgotten that last year was considered shocking for Penn State and that they weren't particularly good for a while before that.

 

Michigan won't deserve a #2 spot. #3 or #4 sure, but they aren't national championship good.

[Guest]

USC struggled against Washington, Washington State and Arizona State.

What is your point. That they struggled to beat teams that all will make it to bowls. Big deal.

[naiwf 0]

Notre Dame isn't that good.

 

People also seem to have magically forgotten that last year was considered shocking for Penn State and that they weren't particularly good for a while before that.

 

Michigan won't deserve a #2 spot. #3 or #4 sure, but they aren't national championship good.

 

If they beat OSU, they'll walk to the Nat'l Title game. If not it's irrelevant, but no team besides OSU has played better than Michigan.

[iggymcfly 0]

A few things just to clarify:

 

1. Michigan's better than USC. You can figure this out by watching them play just about any week or even just by looking at boxscores, and seeing the teams USC struggles with, and how Michigan dominates everyone.

 

2. The computer rankings can't possibly know this. They are not allowed to take margin of victory into account. If you look at the Sagarin ratings, the rankings used for the BCS have USC at #1, but the ones with margin of victory taken into account have them at #4.

 

3. Re: whoever said they'll find a way to put Michigan at #2 when they face Ohio State. Uh yeah, it's pretty simple. It's called Cal's going to beat USC. Obviously, if USC makes it through that ridiculous slate of games, they'll be #2, but if they play anything like they have been, they won't.

[Art Sandusky 0]

Notre Dame isn't that good.

 

People also seem to have magically forgotten that last year was considered shocking for Penn State and that they weren't particularly good for a while before that.

 

Michigan won't deserve a #2 spot. #3 or #4 sure, but they aren't national championship good.

 

If they beat OSU, they'll walk to the Nat'l Title game. If not it's irrelevant, but no team besides OSU has played better than Michigan.

Ohio State wins

 

So it doesn't matter if they're #2 now or not. They're not national title game good. 'sides, there's still a lot of football left. SEC Championship winner versus Ohio State, book it. USC will go down at some point, Auburn's through their worst, Florida isn't a serious contender this year (you'll see), and Louisville won't be able to climb high enough if they beat West Virginia, or the other way around. Texas, Tennessee, and Cal are the dark horses, in that order. If all of the above teams except Ohio State lose (and undefeateds lose more than one), prepare for armageddon as Clemson plays for a national title.

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Notre Dame isn't that good.

 

People also seem to have magically forgotten that last year was considered shocking for Penn State and that they weren't particularly good for a while before that.

 

Michigan won't deserve a #2 spot. #3 or #4 sure, but they aren't national championship good.

 

If they beat OSU, they'll walk to the Nat'l Title game. If not it's irrelevant, but no team besides OSU has played better than Michigan.

Ohio State wins

 

So it doesn't matter if they're #2 now or not. They're not national title game good. 'sides, there's still a lot of football left. SEC Championship winner versus Ohio State, book it. USC will go down at some point, Auburn's through their worst, Florida isn't a serious contender this year (you'll see), and Louisville won't be able to climb high enough if they beat West Virginia, or the other way around. Texas, Tennessee, and Cal are the dark horses, in that order. If all of the above teams except Ohio State lose (and undefeateds lose more than one), prepare for armageddon as Clemson plays for a national title.

 

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[Art Sandusky 0]

Hey, they lost their only game early in the year and the ACC looks like crap. And like I said, that's the nightmare scenario.

[Fökai 0]

As Kotz suggests, this debate is ridiculous --the last two weeks of the regular season will create the postseason anyway. Hypothetically, Ohio State runs the table in the regular season, while Michigan and USC have one loss each (OSU and Cal, respectively). Who makes it? Cal's schedule won't be up to snuff on USC to leapfrog them. Whoever wins between Louisville and West Virginia will still be penalized for a weak schedule. It comes back down to Michigan and USC.

[dh86 0]

All this debate is ridiculous --the last two weeks of the regular season will create the postseason anyway. Hypothetically, Ohio State runs the table in the regular season, while Michigan and USC have one loss each (OSU and Cal, respectively). Who makes it? Cal's schedule won't be up to snuff on USC to leapfrog them. Whoever wins between Louisville and West Virginia will still be penalized for a weak schedule. It comes back down to Michigan and USC.

 

exactly...if Michigan and Ohio State are both undefeated going into the final game of the season and USC has a loss...theres a decent chance Michigan and OSU could have a rematch in the national title game

[Art Sandusky 0]

By the way, now that we're officially talking BCS, could someone explain the extra BCS bowl format for me? Or is that going into effect next year?

 

(also, I'm dreading Fox being where I have to go to see the biggest games of the year)

[dh86 0]

By the way, now that we're officially talking BCS, could someone explain the extra BCS bowl format for me? Or is that going into effect next year?

 

(also, I'm dreading Fox being where I have to go to see the biggest games of the year)

there are 2 more at large teams making it 5 BCS games now with the title game being the extra game...before this year, the Fiesta Bowl for example would be the title game...now they are seperate games and the national title game is the week after the rest of the new years day bowl games

[Fökai 0]

All this debate is ridiculous --the last two weeks of the regular season will create the postseason anyway. Hypothetically, Ohio State runs the table in the regular season, while Michigan and USC have one loss each (OSU and Cal, respectively). Who makes it? Cal's schedule won't be up to snuff on USC to leapfrog them. Whoever wins between Louisville and West Virginia will still be penalized for a weak schedule. It comes back down to Michigan and USC.

 

exactly...if Michigan and Ohio State are both undefeated going into the final game of the season and USC has a loss...theres a decent chance Michigan and OSU could have a rematch in the national title game

 

Well, my point was going to be that USC can rebound from a potential loss against Cal. They finish with Notre Dame and UCLA. If they have convincing wins against both (which is likely if they're angry coming off of a loss), they can jump back into the #2 position quite easily.

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I'm only now reminded that Joe Buck will probably be calling BCS game. Woof.

[dh86 0]

USC is number #2 because they beat #13 Arkansas and #17 Nebraska. I'm sorry that we don't play Bowling Green, Vanderbilt, Middle Tennessee State or some of the other assorted trash that the other undefeateds schedule.

 

Everyone's going to lose a game anyway, so these arguments won't mean a fucking thing. By the end of the year, it's going to be a complete mess.

 

Michigan and Ohio State dont have to worry about playing in a conference with such powers as Arizona,Oregon State or Washington State either so it really evens out

[cabbageboy 0]

Well, the BCS paradise would be for either OSU or Michigan to run the table and then take on USC (who would somehow go unbeaten as well). That said, if either U of L or WVU goes unbeaten we could be looking at the BCS fiasco of all time. Namely a team from a major conference that is unbeaten getting beat out of the national title game in favor of a team with 1 loss.

 

Now WVU? They have had a weak schedule thus far. U of L though? Let's take a look. Should the Cards somehow go undefeated they'll have beaten Miami, WVU, Rutgers, Pitt, and a few other teams that might end up being bowl teams (K-State, USF).

[Slayer 0]

the BCS fiasco of all time.

I'd think that would've been the split title of '03, as split titles was one of, if not the biggest, major reasons for the inception of the BCS

 

Your scenario would be pretty bad too, though