Guest Felonies! Posted October 29, 2006 Report Posted October 29, 2006 Um, he was deliberately under- or overdosing to make a point. Effective, yes, but I'm not sure it's healthy or ethical.
Guest CWMwasmurdered Posted October 29, 2006 Report Posted October 29, 2006 I didn't see that this time he did it on purpose is what I meant. I took it that he was over medicated because his Parkinson's was fluctuating.
Big Ol' Smitty Posted October 29, 2006 Report Posted October 29, 2006 A few years ago Michael J. Fox addressed a congressional hearing about Parkinson's and he admitted to not taking his meds so that he would get his tremors and shakes during the testimony to drive home his point. So? Self-inflicted suffering just to help the Democratic Party? He's done ads for pro-stem cell research Republicans too, FYI.
snuffbox Posted October 29, 2006 Report Posted October 29, 2006 Czech, it's been repeated a million times that Fox did ads for Arlen Specter as well. This is why dittoheads are kinda retarded.
CheesalaIsGood Posted October 29, 2006 Report Posted October 29, 2006 Czech, it's been repeated a million times that Fox did ads for Arlen Specter as well. This is why dittoheads are kinda retarded. Kinda?
dubq Posted October 30, 2006 Report Posted October 30, 2006 Anyways... why is this Canuck interfering in our elections? He should go back to his country and encourage his government to cure the sick. Michael J. Fox may have been born in Canada, but he is also an American citizen. He is entitled to participate in the American electoral process and has his right to speak guaranteed by the First Amendment. He is a US citizen, yes. He also has this odd vendetta against the Canadian medical community. Refuses to even acknowledge some of the amazing advances that have been achieved in regards to Parkinson's disease and other neurodegenerative diseases up here, at the Krembil Neuroscience Centre in particular..
chaosrage Posted October 30, 2006 Report Posted October 30, 2006 MJF inteview with Katie Couric Poor Marty. He's like this while some fat heartless fuck that can go and make fun of him on the radio is healthy. Life isn't fair.
snuffbox Posted October 30, 2006 Report Posted October 30, 2006 And a bunch of people actually believe everything that Rush tells them.
The Niggardly King Posted October 30, 2006 Report Posted October 30, 2006 wow Did you people not watch this? A few years ago Michael J. Fox addressed a congressional hearing about Parkinson's and he admitted to not taking his meds so that he would get his tremors and shakes during the testimony to drive home his point. Its not that I don't tend to blindly believe everything everyone on the internet says, but I'd like a source on this. It's in his book. There is no real way to prescribe the right amount of medicine, because the disease changes so rapidly. One checkup, the doctor may tell you to take 6 5/325's a day, the next he may cut that down to 2. Parkinsons is a disease that changes sometimes on a daily basis... there's a reason why the shows he was on recently work around him so much... you never know when he'll break out with the shakes.
snuffbox Posted October 30, 2006 Report Posted October 30, 2006 I think Czech was the only person in this thread going with Rush's nonsense.
Dr. Tyler; Captain America Posted October 31, 2006 Report Posted October 31, 2006 The thing I love about this is that it was such a win-win. If the wingers don't say anything, the ad is extremely effective and we win votes throughout StL and KC. If they say anything, all they can say is "Well, he's faking!!!" and spark outrage, since it's freakin' Michael J. Fox they're attacking. I'm glad we could count on Rush Limbaugh to take the bait and make the Republicans look, once again, like jackasses.
Vyce Posted October 31, 2006 Report Posted October 31, 2006 I think Czech was the only person in this thread going with Rush's nonsense. Seeing as Fox as admitted to under or over medicating himself in the past in order to make a point, I really don't see how it was foolish of anyone to assume that he might have done it again for these ads. If he didn't do it on purpose, fine. But no one should act as if, oh, my, what an OUTRAGEOUS accusation to make against Michael J. Fox! Because he has done it before. Which is his right, and more power to him, because I think we should be doing this research. But I don't feel questioning his participation in these ads was really out of line.
EricMM Posted October 31, 2006 Report Posted October 31, 2006 I suppose one could nominate that his manner left something to be desired. But then again, to expect tact out of Rush in a matter such as this is fairly ridiculous.
bob_barron Posted October 31, 2006 Report Posted October 31, 2006 Michael J. Fox is too likeable. The anti-stem cell ad is awesome. KURT WARNER! JEFF SUPPAN! PATRICIA HEATON! THE NBA IS ON NBC!
Guest Felonies! Posted October 31, 2006 Report Posted October 31, 2006 I'll oppose stem cell research if the music of John Tesh is involved.
Big Ol' Smitty Posted November 1, 2006 Report Posted November 1, 2006 Take that back. Tesh's NBA theme was awesome.
SuperJerk Posted November 1, 2006 Report Posted November 1, 2006 I think Czech was the only person in this thread going with Rush's nonsense. Seeing as Fox as admitted to under or over medicating himself in the past in order to make a point, I really don't see how it was foolish of anyone to assume that he might have done it again for these ads. If he didn't do it on purpose, fine. But no one should act as if, oh, my, what an OUTRAGEOUS accusation to make against Michael J. Fox! Because he has done it before. Which is his right, and more power to him, because I think we should be doing this research. But I don't feel questioning his participation in these ads was really out of line. Rush was accusing Fox of pretending to shake, calling it an "act". That's different than going off medication to show how bad the disease could affect you.
Guest Felonies! Posted November 1, 2006 Report Posted November 1, 2006 If you were on blood thinners for hypertension, would you go off your medication and risk a heart attack or stroke to prove a point about the price of prescription drugs?
Guest Agent of Oblivion Posted November 1, 2006 Report Posted November 1, 2006 Bad analogy. Stem cell research isn't doing much in the way of high blood pressure that I'm aware of, plus it's more preventable than getting hit with one of the most debilitating and unfair illnesses this side of Lou Gerhig.
Guest Felonies! Posted November 1, 2006 Report Posted November 1, 2006 True, but something about this whole thing just bothers me.
Dobbs 3K Posted November 1, 2006 Report Posted November 1, 2006 What gets lost in the whole debate is this: A lot of people like me aren't against ethical stem cell research. What we're against is the government funding of it. The medical industry has more than enough money to pay its way for its own research.
SuperJerk Posted November 2, 2006 Report Posted November 2, 2006 What gets lost in the whole debate is this: A lot of people like me aren't against ethical stem cell research. What we're against is the government funding of it. The medical industry has more than enough money to pay its way for its own research. There's nothing I'd love to see more than the patent to the cure for cancer being owned by Pfizer. More than just the medical industry would benefit from the reseearch, so to say that its purely the medical community's problem to find the money is absurd.
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