TNA Taping Spoilerz

[razazteca 0]

Another thing the people in charge of TNA are failing to realize is that if you are going to start doing worked shoots you can't have everybody in the company doing one. Right now TNA has 3 angles trying to get the worked shoot shock response of OMG "I can't believe he said that" in Joe vs Kurt, Shane vs 3D, and James Gang looking like fools on tv. The persons in charge should focus their time and energy in the Joe vs Kurt angle since it is the highest profile of the 3 and whenever Joe/Kurt confront each other it looks good on tv plus the fact that both have the talent to make it work on the mic and in the ring. I'm a big fan of Shane Douglas but the whole deal of him calling people out from other companies is just getting tired. I was a fan of the Franchised Naturals angle with Shane training them to be championship contenders but I see no need for Shane to start shooting on ECW. Unless Don West and Mike Tenay start calling the James Gang the greatest tag team in the history of the world every 5 seconds and if BG says the same damn thing during his entrance they won't get over. Since TNA has the believe of bringing in old tymers is a good idea why not bring in Terry & Dory Funk to put over the James Gang. I'm sure the fans really want to see Bullet Bob and Dory Funk talk about their Texas Death Match from 1967 or that hot feud they had at the Tampa Bay Armorery back in 1979.

 

ECW is dead, the New Age Outlaws are not over, It is not 1998 WWF, and I sure as fuck do not want to see WCW 1999 again either!

[Guest Coffey]

Even if I tried to be optimistic about this. With a "wait and see" mind-set, or "give him more time" mindset...I still couldn't come up with anything to defend this writing. It's just not there. It's bad.

 

First, TNA is run by idiots.

Absolutely. It's more obvious now than ever and I'm almost to the point of giving up on them. If it weren't for Angle/Joe (which I'm starting to sour on) and LAX, I probably already would've.

 

Second, Vince Russo will forever think it's 1998.

As will a lot of the roster, such as BG & Kip James, Jeff Jarrett & Sting. Maybe that's where the true problem is?

[Hawk 34 0]

I wish you people would stop acting as if Russo suddenly made TNA suck. It was horrible throughout the last year aside from a couple brief spurts that quickly got aborted. There's only one guy to blame for the incredible idiocy and lack of quality this promotion spits out.

 

Is Russo a shitty booker? That's not debatable. Is Russo out-dated? Yes but so are alot of people in this business that get a pass from others here. Is Russo an immature dumb-ass that keeps doing the same act? Yes and the other company does it to.

 

There's only one name at fault for everything that is wrong with this promotion and his name isn't Vince Russo.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

Who is acting like it was Russo who made TNA sucks? TNA have been sucking creatively for a long time. Everyone acknowledges that. Well, almost everyone.

[luke-o 0]

This entire post was a contradiction. Look, even if you're trying to be optimistic, this show certainly doesn't sound good.

 

Hows it contradictory? I made 4 comments (3 really becuse Abyss jobbing and making him look crap fall under the same catogory) about 3 hours worth of impact. The rest of the shows look great.

 

I like the Naturals/3D angle, id like to see Cage and Rhino in a barbed wire cage match (despite cage winning, again) and im looking forward to the styles/daniels/sabin match, yeah the "title changed hands and it devalues it and blah blah" but that doesnt mean the match wont suck.

 

Sure, Russos booking looks a little over done, but thats not going to make the matches suck, the angle/abyss match could be awesome for all we know. The spolier doesnt say how it ends (at least i dont think it did), he could have caught Abyss in a roll up and get a cheap win. Abyss could look really good in the match.

 

Even if I tried to be optimistic about this. With a "wait and see" mind-set, or "give him more time" mindset

 

Give it more time, wait and see.

 

All im saying is, you cant judge a show by some words on your computer screen.

[AlaskanHero 0]

Well, HTQ, from reading most of the posts in the various spoiler threads, to me it looks like most people are blaming Russo for making TNA less than enjoyable lately, when it really isn't his fault. Hawk's right, you shouldn't be blaming Russo for TNA being "bad", especially since this his third go round as a TNA booker. Personally, I enjoy TNA still, but my tastes in just about everything vary widely from most of the people in this forum. But yeah, you wanna be angry at someone, you wanna blame someone, blame the guy who has had creative power since the beginning.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

Abyss tapped out clean. The number one contender to the NWA Title tapped out. Clean. In a match to be shown just days before his title match.

 

I defy anyone to credibly defend that.

 

I cannot believe some people still insist we 'wait and see'. We don't need to wait, and we've already seen.

 

That was aimed at luke-o, obviously, and not APW.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

Well, HTQ, from reading most of the posts in the various spoiler threads, to me it looks like most people are blaming Russo for making TNA less than enjoyable lately, when it really isn't his fault. Hawk's right, you shouldn't be blaming Russo for TNA being "bad", especially since this his third go round as a TNA booker. Personally, I enjoy TNA still, but my tastes in just about everything vary widely from most of the people in this forum. But yeah, you wanna be angry at someone, you wanna blame someone, blame the guy who has had creative power since the beginning.

The people who brought Russo in do deserve a lot of the blame for giving him a platform to show his 'genius'. Doesn't mean he gets a free ride on the criticism he does deserve.

[The Niggardly King 0]

Abyss tapped out clean. The number one contender to the NWA Title tapped out. Clean. In a match to be shown just days before his title match.

 

I defy anyone to credibly defend that.

 

See this really makes no sense. The match Russo didn't need to overbook to death... he actually does, but this one needed both guys protected, and a not a clean finish. Instead, it sort of kills the Ankle Lock once again, by having Abyss survive it for so long. Plus it makes Abyss look bad, as I'm pretty sure he's never tapped out before, and he's getting the title shot a mere few days later. What should have happened is that Angle is about to get the Ankle Lock on, but Abyss is has his hand on the ropes... then Samoa Joe runs-in, and you can have your overbooked finish.

 

Another thing I find stupid that Russo does is that there will be guys getting pushed with videos and interviews, then he'll job them out to someone who's doing nothing, like with the Petey Williams three way match... I guess in his mind this will somehow get everyone over, when in fact it accomplishes nothing.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

And how about that Bobby Roode push? In a top match one week, and the next he's not even on Impact and does a job to Eric Young on Xplosion.

[luke-o 0]

Maybe there doing with Roode what they should have done with MVP, build him up to be awesome, then find out hes not, so he has to work and train harder and get a better manager to motovate him to push him to the next level.

 

Maybe thats why he got Tracy instead of someone good.

 

Abyss tapped out clean. The number one contender to the NWA Title tapped out. Clean. In a match to be shown just days before his title match.

 

Your right, i cant defend that, but that doesnt mean i wont watch it.

[Art Sandusky 0]

I wonder what Eric Young's announcement was. You push it for a whole show and have the guy interrupted a couple of times and then never let him get around to it? You've already used enough time for him to do it during the course of being cut off, so why not just do it?

[Guest Canadian Crippler64]

"I wonder what Eric Young's announcement was. You push it for a whole show and have the guy interrupted a couple of times and then never let him get around to it? You've already used enough time for him to do it during the course of being cut off, so why not just do it?"

 

I have to give a "wait and see" to this.

 

I cannot defend all of the stupid booking ie: Abyss tapping out etc., but with this particular aspect of the show, we won't know for sure that the announcement wasn't made until the show airs.

 

TNA frequently tapes backstage vignettes that the audience doesn't see during impact tapings. For example, the fans at this taping didn't see an interview with David Eckstein of the St. Louis Cardinals, but there is one taped and scheduled to air during the primetime debut.

 

It is possible that they taped the announcement in a backstage promo and it will air on the show.

 

If it doesn't than it is just another example of the poor creative direction of TNA, but I can't say that for certain until I see the show.

[cabbageboy 0]

I think it's hilarious that TNA brings in these World Series heroes like Pierzynski and Eckstein that nobody but hardcore baseball fans care about.

 

When I first heard about the Abyss/Angle match I said "This is a horrible idea." How the hell do you book that match right now? Abyss is the #1 contender and shouldn't be jobbing, Angle just debuted and can't job. Correct me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't people have had to pay for Angle's debut match?

[razazteca 0]

I guess we have to wait and see until the pre-show of the PPV to find out the super duper special announcement that Eric Young has.

[Jacques 0]

Who else would Angle have faced? Christian, Abyss and Roode are the only three top level heels. Christian-Angle is obviously a PPV match and Roode is being built up. If TNA would have given Angle's first match vs somebody like Kazarian everybody would have bitched about TNA misusing Angle's first TNA match.

[Jacques 0]

Plus who gives a shit about Abyss' credibility? Nobody is buying this PPV for Abyss-Sting. Joe-Angle is main event and they built both of them huge during the show with Joe killing the X-Division B-team and Angle beating the monster.

[The C Man 0]

Personally for Angle's first match I would've liked to have seen him go against Robert Roode.

You could have Roode bitch at Traci - he could've picked anyone for his manager but he picked her and she's done nothing, etc; Traci storms off; comes back later and tells him she has a huge match for him, in fact it's so huge they need to go to the ring to announce it; in the ring the match is announced, maybe have a short Angle interview/montage, maybe have him training then be asked about his debut match; "I don't care who it is, I WILL hurt them, in fact, whoever you are, Angle's gonna kill you"; Roode freaks out, JOE~! appears, whether he does or doesn't attack Roode is up for debate.

[Jacques 0]

That doesn't works for so many reasons:

 

1. Angle vs Roode for primetime doesn't sound as good as Angle vs Abyss.

 

2. They obviously have high hopes for Roode. No way he's gonna job so early.

 

3. Break Tracy and Roode already? They have been together for 2 weeks.

[Guest Coffey]

I dunno, I kinda dig it. It'd put the power in Traci's hands, as the manager, instead of Roode's, whom, with the bitching at her that C-Man described, would be needed. Roode would be all "I'm the best free agent there is! I picked you...but I can do better on my own!" Then she could get him a match with Angle, Roode would lose and Roode would realize "maybe I do need help?" then Traci could get him some other opponents and he could build-up that way.

 

I could dig it.

[The C Man 0]

That doesn't works for so many reasons:

 

1. Angle vs Roode for primetime doesn't sound as good as Angle vs Abyss.

 

2. They obviously have high hopes for Roode. No way he's gonna job so early.

 

3. Break Tracy and Roode already? They have been together for 2 weeks.

 

I'm not talking of billing it as 'Angle vs whoever'; just simply 'Angle's debut'. The Angle signing was huge, it should all be about him.

 

What high hopes? Doing nothing? Not being on PPV's? If they do, they're not showing it. I feel wrestling is too conservative when it comes to losing. Bobby Roode has only started a singles run, why shouldn't he be 'jobbed out' to Kurt Angle - multi-time World champion, Olympic gold medallist, the biggest acquisition in TNA history, a man billed as the best wrestler in the world & one of the best of all time? Surely if the no.1 contender to your World title is expendable then someone they have 'high hopes' for is too. You could even - the following week - have Roode be interviewed about what facing Kurt Angle is like, since he's the only one in TNA to have wrestled him. Roode can say now he knows what the standard is, he knows how good he needs to be to be the very best. Even though he lost it's only made him hungrier, he's going to try that little bit more, he's going to push himself that little bit more, so that the next time he faces Angle it'll be his hand rasied in victory and they'll be asking Kurt Angle the following week how it felt to have been in the ring with the greatest wrestler in the world, Robert Roode. Spilled into a Roode fantasty promo there, but you get the idea.

 

I wasn't advocating splitting, just a backstage arguement based on the cold, hard facts everyone can see. Maybe it didn't come across as such but I thought the fact Traci came back with the whole 'huge announcement' thing showed it was only an argument and not a split.