WON News + Notes, January 8th Issue

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No Main Event Babyface sells during their comeback in the WWE. However, Hogan is the only one would would no-sell actual moves. I dont care of Hogans is 8 feet tall, his is far worse.

 

UNDERTAKER.

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Those matches were fucking great, and you gave to be crazy to think not. I don't think they're the greatest at all: Hokuto / Kandori will probably my second favourite, (and objective fave) and Owen Bret WMX will probably always be my favorite match.

 

But calling the Flair/Steamboat boring is just silly. Falir Funk is phenomenal too, and very intense. What do you actually LIKE Jericho2000?

 

I neglected one thing, is that the whole thing about working a good match with a stiff . I don't know how I feel about this.

Michaels surely bumped like the living hell, and absolutely destroyed his body vs stiffs. (Taker at that time was NOT a stiff, that guy is maybe one of the most prominent athletic big man ever) But, I really like the Hart/Diesel match which is basically dominant face vs tricky face.

Hart is just masterful in that match. and such a great finish. (I hated it the first time. Diesel 4ever!^%*!)

 

 

Flair-Steamboat in a nutshell: chop-armdrag-resthold-chop-armdrag-resthold (repeat for 45 minutes), then rollup out of nowhere. It's only crazy not to like it to those who confuse Meltzer's opinion with fact.

 

As for the matches I do like, you actually mentioned a lot of them... Bret-Owen (no way can anyone watch Flair-Steamboat then Bret-Owen and tell themselves Flair-Steamboat is even in the same hemisphere), Bret-Diesel (which set the template for the modern day WWE main event gimmick match) and of course Bret-Austin and Angle-Benoit. I thought Flair-Funk I Quit was good, but Flair-Funk GAB was terribly boring and repetitive.

 

No Main Event Babyface sells during their comeback in the WWE. However, Hogan is the only one would would no-sell actual moves. I dont care of Hogans is 8 feet tall, his is far worse.

 

However, nobody accuses Hogan of being a great worker, unlike Michaels.

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But can someone explain why Michaels' kip-up in mid match should be treated any differently to getting immediately up after a usually match ending headdrop, sometimes on more than one occasion? Anyone?

 

The major problem I have with Shawn's no-selling kip-up's, beside rendering useless all the work done in the match up to that point, is that it didn't look credible for someone who was 6ft and, maybe, 210lbs, to be casually shrugging off offense that he just spent twenty minutes selling like crazy. With Hogan, at least in his prime, he looked like a physically imposing guy who, at 6ft4 and 300lbs, looks credible in rising up from the ashes of a major beating and kicking some ass. Something he also did was continue to sell the beating he'd just been taking, even while he was making his comeback, and usually after the match where he'd act like he was just in a war. Shawn would just stop selling completely and be bouncing around the ring like nothing had happened. For someone of Shawn's size to go from selling a beating like crazy to flying and flopping around like he was perfectly fine made no sense and looked silly. If you want to see someone of Shawn's size sell his ass off for twenty minutes but make a comeback that looks credible and believable, watch Ricky Morton in his heyday. That guy could sell his ass off, usually better than Shawn, but when he made his comeback he didn’t do it such a way that made no sense for someone of his size and stature.

 

Oh, he's no Ricky Morton. Then again, most of Morton's selling was in a tag team format and I don't remember Shawn doing the kip-up spot back when he was in The Rockers.

 

I do see your point. I can see the problems with Shawn doing it, but at the same time I understand why he does it.