OAO Monday Night Raw Thread-1/15/2007

[Hawkius Maximus 0]

Edge once again shows he's the smartest heel in WWE.

 

He got the hell out of dodge there.

[2GOLD 0]

This preview for the Hitcher looks like a scene from Smokey and the Bandit.

[daileyxplanet 0]

Orton with the D-Von-esque selling.

[theintensifier 0]

I can't believe that Michaels is actually beating the two most over heels in the WWF right now. Ridiculousness.

 

They still have DX shirts to sell.

A few t-shirt sales is going to really help keep the WWF finacially stable?

[Gary Floyd 0]

Just a guess, but Sean Bean will end up being the only good thing about "The Hitcher" remake.

[Downhome 0]

I'm all for Edge now cutting a promo on Orton, saying that he held him back, and goes on to beat him in a match.

[theintensifier 0]

Orton with the D-Von-esque selling.

Haha.

[Mecca 0]

I can't believe that Michaels is actually beating the two most over heels in the WWF right now. Ridiculousness.

 

They still have DX shirts to sell.

A few t-shirt sales is going to really help keep the WWF finacially stable?

 

Well if you look at their tpp selling shit its all DX or Cena.......I went to NYR and the stack of DX shirts was probably as much as everything else combined so they probably do consider it important.

[2GOLD 0]

I'm all for Edge now cutting a promo on Orton, saying that he held him back, and goes on to beat him in a match.

 

But they will probably have Orton cut the promo and somehow he'll go on to win the WWE title, leading to a match with Shawn at Mania while Edge just leaves RAW for Smackdown.

 

So no downside for me.

[Mecca 0]

I'm all for Edge now cutting a promo on Orton, saying that he held him back, and goes on to beat him in a match.

 

But they will probably have Orton cut the promo and somehow he'll go on to win the WWE title, leading to a match with Shawn at Mania while Edge just leaves RAW for Smackdown.

 

So no downside for me.

 

Orton may get the match with Cena at WM.........if either one has a match with HBK it's Edge.....problem is they'd probably make him job to HBK.

[theintensifier 0]

I can't believe that Michaels is actually beating the two most over heels in the WWF right now. Ridiculousness.

 

They still have DX shirts to sell.

A few t-shirt sales is going to really help keep the WWF finacially stable?

 

Well if you look at their tpp selling shit its all DX or Cena.......I went to NYR and the stack of DX shirts was probably as much as everything else combined so they probably do consider it important.

Whatever.

 

HBK winning against Edge and Orton is just ridiculous. I'm 100% sure it has nothing, absolutely nothing to do with t-shirt sales. Probably more like Shawn using his "backstage pull" or the WWF creative team thinking it'd be a better idea to keep Shawn going, and not give him the time off he needs to heal his numerous and mounting injuries.

[NoCalMike 0]

It just seems that WWE doesn't much believe in strong heels anymore. First we get Umaga once again being made to look not so much like a monster in his confrontation with Cena, where the ending shot is him laid out "unconcious" then in the handicapp match, HBK takes 8 minutes of punishment yet after his famous kip up, the power of mere clothelines force Edge and Orton to lay around like dead fish while HBK stumbles and bumbles around the ring trying to set up his next moveset....and the post-match crap, yeah that is not a good way to make heels look strong.

[Mecca 0]

I can't believe that Michaels is actually beating the two most over heels in the WWF right now. Ridiculousness.

 

They still have DX shirts to sell.

A few t-shirt sales is going to really help keep the WWF finacially stable?

 

Well if you look at their tpp selling shit its all DX or Cena.......I went to NYR and the stack of DX shirts was probably as much as everything else combined so they probably do consider it important.

Whatever.

 

HBK winning against Edge and Orton is just ridiculous. I'm 100% sure it has nothing, absolutely nothing to do with t-shirt sales. Probably more like Shawn using his "backstage pull" or the WWF creative team thinking it'd be a better idea to keep Shawn going, and not give him the time off he needs to heal his numerous and mounting injuries.

 

 

Like I said DX being drug out to keep the merchandise going........that's really the only reason they have to book it that way instead of just letting Shawn go take care of his problems also.

[theintensifier 0]

I can't believe that Michaels is actually beating the two most over heels in the WWF right now. Ridiculousness.

 

They still have DX shirts to sell.

A few t-shirt sales is going to really help keep the WWF finacially stable?

 

Well if you look at their tpp selling shit its all DX or Cena.......I went to NYR and the stack of DX shirts was probably as much as everything else combined so they probably do consider it important.

Whatever.

 

HBK winning against Edge and Orton is just ridiculous. I'm 100% sure it has nothing, absolutely nothing to do with t-shirt sales. Probably more like Shawn using his "backstage pull" or the WWF creative team thinking it'd be a better idea to keep Shawn going, and not give him the time off he needs to heal his numerous and mounting injuries.

 

 

Like I said DX being drug out to keep the merchandise going........that's really the only reason they have to book it that way instead of just letting Shawn go take care of his problems also.

Okay. I was saying it was ridiculous for HBK to be beating Edge/Orton, you say they still have DX shirts to sell, I say it's ridiculous for HBK to win again and it's more than likely because of his power, you then say DX is being dragged out to continue t-shirt sales.

 

That doesn't make any sense. So, HBK, HHH, DX has to win in order for their merchandise to be bought? And, if HBK and HHH are both on the shelf, the DX t-shirts will not be bought?

[sluggo 0]

you have to look at it from the WWE's point of view...

 

 

Where is the Rumble being held?

 

What would happen to HBK if RKO destroyed him?

 

so yes, this hurts RKO as a team but in the long run, it's the only thing they could do....I smell a HBK heel turn.

[theintensifier 0]

you have to look at it from the WWE's point of view...

 

 

Where is the Rumble being held?

 

What would happen to HBK if RKO destroyed him?

 

so yes, this hurts RKO as a team but in the long run, it's the only thing they could do....I smell a HBK heel turn.

He'd be destroyed.

 

And no, it's not the only thing they could have done.

 

They could have beaten him like they both said they would, and put him on the shelf until the Rumble, where he gets his revenge eliminating them both in the Rumble, while losing himself, and they could further "injure" him until it's time for his 'Mania match.

[cabbageboy 0]

I'm thinking that Shawn basically all but has to win the Rumble at this point. It's the only thing that makes any real sense. Cena vs. Orton? Bleh, it would suck and not draw a dime. Cena vs. Edge has been done. Edge vs. HBK has been done, ditto HBK vs. Orton. They basically are going to either be forced to do some lame 4 way match at WM (Cena/HBK/Orton/Edge) or do Cena vs. HBK. They don't have to turn anyone, just make it face vs. face with the Team RKO stuff simmering as well. I have no idea what Edge/Orton would do at WM, unless they lose the tag belts and have a falling out and briefly feud with each other, only to end up back as a team when HHH gets back. Actually that scenario makes the most sense to me and produces the freshest matchups: Cena vs. Michaels for the WWE title, Edge vs. Orton in a lovers quarrel.

[Scroby 0]

so I have another 20 minutes before Raw, should I look forward to the show?

[Art Sandusky 0]

I don't see why not. It was the greatest night in the history of the sport.

[theintensifier 0]

so I have another 20 minutes before Raw, should I look forward to the show?

No. It's definitely not worth watching. If you enjoy weight lifting, do that instead. Unless, you want to hear JR make some stupid comments during the main event.

[theintensifier 0]

I'm thinking that Shawn basically all but has to win the Rumble at this point. It's the only thing that makes any real sense. Cena vs. Orton? Bleh, it would suck and not draw a dime. Cena vs. Edge has been done. Edge vs. HBK has been done, ditto HBK vs. Orton. They basically are going to either be forced to do some lame 4 way match at WM (Cena/HBK/Orton/Edge) or do Cena vs. HBK. They don't have to turn anyone, just make it face vs. face with the Team RKO stuff simmering as well. I have no idea what Edge/Orton would do at WM, unless they lose the tag belts and have a falling out and briefly feud with each other, only to end up back as a team when HHH gets back. Actually that scenario makes the most sense to me and produces the freshest matchups: Cena vs. Michaels for the WWE title, Edge vs. Orton in a lovers quarrel.

 

1. He's not going to win it. I'm certain enough to put money on the Undertaker.

 

2. No it doesn't. Michaels has been in a long tag team feud, and no where near feuding with Cena, or the WWF World title picture.

 

3. I agree with you.

 

4. Cena vs. Edge = old news.

 

5. HBK vs. Edge = old and bad news.

 

6. HBK vs. Orton = old and horrible news.

 

7. A very realistic possiblity.

 

8. They won't go that route, Michaels would get more cheers and a pop than Cena. And we all know HBK won't do a clean job, and Cena is the modern day Hogan, he beats everyone.

 

9. Horrible idea. Instead of pushing away from kayfabe, they need to embrace it more often. They can easily mix sports entertainment with kayfabe. Edge vs. Orton is a bad, bad, bad idea. Edge would totally outshine, and make Orton look like shit. Not like I care about Orton, leaving my personal bias aside, that would hurt Orton which equals bad news to the WWF.

[Mecca 0]

I highly doubt they put Cena and HBK in a match with each other.......Cena is still heavily protected and they would fear him being booed against HBK who will get cheers even as a heel.

 

I know how the WWE is they'd rather give you the stinker this year than risk Cena being shit on at Mania 2 years in a row.

[Scroby 0]

I don't see why not. It was the greatest night in the history of the sport.

....your lying to me, aren't you.

[theintensifier 0]

It'd be nice if he wasn't.

[Above Average 0]

you have to look at it from the WWE's point of view...

 

 

Where is the Rumble being held?

 

What would happen to HBK if RKO destroyed him?

 

so yes, this hurts RKO as a team but in the long run, it's the only thing they could do....I smell a HBK heel turn.

He'd be destroyed.

 

And no, it's not the only thing they could have done.

 

They could have beaten him like they both said they would, and put him on the shelf until the Rumble, where he gets his revenge eliminating them both in the Rumble, while losing himself, and they could further "injure" him until it's time for his 'Mania match.

 

And then you don't have a number two face. I'm all for Shawn getting rest if he wants/needs it, but why get rid of another star when HHH is gone for 4-6 months. Plus, Vince loves the crowd pop (as most of us do every once and awhile) and that segment brought that to the table. Your idea is interesting and it is logical, but it also gets rid of Shawn for two weeks in which they could be building him up as the man on RAW to win the Rumble and takes him off the shows during the road to Wrestlemania. Not the best plan since Jeff Hardy all of a sudden becomes the number two man on RAW.

[cabbageboy 0]

Yeah HBK vs. Cena might mean Cena gets trashed again at WM, but who really gives a shit? It's obvious that WWE is going to push Cena anyway, so they don't care if people boo him. With that out of the way, the only money drawing match on Raw is Cena vs. Michaels. Actually drawing money for WM is more important than Cena getting booed in Detroit.

 

I think Cena retains at WM, and they save the big title change and pop for the Batista/UT match.

[cabbageboy 0]

Double post.

[theintensifier 0]

you have to look at it from the WWE's point of view...

 

 

Where is the Rumble being held?

 

What would happen to HBK if RKO destroyed him?

 

so yes, this hurts RKO as a team but in the long run, it's the only thing they could do....I smell a HBK heel turn.

He'd be destroyed.

 

And no, it's not the only thing they could have done.

 

They could have beaten him like they both said they would, and put him on the shelf until the Rumble, where he gets his revenge eliminating them both in the Rumble, while losing himself, and they could further "injure" him until it's time for his 'Mania match.

 

And then you don't have a number two face. I'm all for Shawn getting rest if he wants/needs it, but why get rid of another star when HHH is gone for 4-6 months. Plus, Vince loves the crowd pop (as most of us do every once and awhile) and that segment brought that to the table. Your idea is interesting and it is logical, but it also gets rid of Shawn for two weeks in which they could be building him up as the man on RAW to win the Rumble and takes him off the shows during the road to Wrestlemania. Not the best plan since Jeff Hardy all of a sudden becomes the number two man on RAW.

The WWF needs to break away from their tired, boring, never changing booking. Every year they always push a face to win the Rumble. Why not ever push a heel to be the one to be reckoned with? Raw has been horrible as of late, they really haven't done any solid building, why not let Shawn take some time off instead of keeping him around and risking a more serious injury? They could easily push Carlito as the #2 face right now. The fans want to cheer for him. He can talk, he has Jericho level charisma, and he can work when properly motivated.

 

And what are they really going to do with HBK if he sticks around? You can't have a handicap match every single Raw, and Flair won't work as a teamate either, since he's still busy with Kenny.

[RepoMan 0]

I’m done watching Raw for a while. This is the worst main event level booking decision since JBL won the title on SD. I could tolerate and understand HBK winning via miscommunication or run in, but WWE just made the top 2 heels on Raw look like total pussies.

 

The rest of the show was OK, but the main event booking has gone from I’m bored with to I want to puke.

 

I wish SD was still in a decent time slot. I’m so sick of Raw and TNA.

[Mr. S£im Citrus 0]

That may have been the single best heel move on RAW since the Rock in Sacramento...

 

What did the Rock do in Sac?

 

His Rock Concert where he sung that the Lakers would beat the Kings in the playoffs and then what makes it funnier is they actually did it.

The Lakers and Kings didn't meet in the playoffs that year; that was the year that Webber blew out his knee.