Dobbs 3K Posted February 6, 2007 Report Posted February 6, 2007 Yeah, I've never been able to buy Edge's spear, he's just to thin looking. It would be OK as a setup move, but it's not a believable finisher. He should go back to using that "Edge-lock" Sharpshooter type variation he had for a while, but I guess main eventers aren't allowed to have submission finishers in WWE (other than John Cena's STFU). Submissions aren't exactly used much anymore as finishers with the exception of Cena, Punk, Benoit, and Masters. Some use submissions as set ups but it's generally those four with routine submission finishers. Right, because no one is booked to look really strong anymore, and no one wants to look weak by tapping out, even once.
Corkscrew_Senton Posted February 6, 2007 Report Posted February 6, 2007 Yeah, I've never been able to buy Edge's spear, he's just to thin looking. It would be OK as a setup move, but it's not a believable finisher. He should go back to using that "Edge-lock" Sharpshooter type variation he had for a while, but I guess main eventers aren't allowed to have submission finishers in WWE (other than John Cena's STFU). Submissions aren't exactly used much anymore as finishers with the exception of Cena, Punk, Benoit, and Masters. Some use submissions as set ups but it's generally those four with routine submission finishers. Which totally blows. I remember WCW in like '97, you had Benoit (crossface); Malenko (cloverleaf); Flair and Jarrett (figure four); Piper (sleeper hold); Sting (scorpion deathlock); Meng (death grip); Jericho (liontamer); Konnan (tequila sunrise)...and those are just the guys I remember off the top of my head. I'd like to see more submission finishers, and not Cena's lame "hug opponent's head gently and scream" finisher.
Corkscrew_Senton Posted February 6, 2007 Report Posted February 6, 2007 Yeah, I've never been able to buy Edge's spear, he's just to thin looking. It would be OK as a setup move, but it's not a believable finisher. He should go back to using that "Edge-lock" Sharpshooter type variation he had for a while, but I guess main eventers aren't allowed to have submission finishers in WWE (other than John Cena's STFU). Submissions aren't exactly used much anymore as finishers with the exception of Cena, Punk, Benoit, and Masters. Some use submissions as set ups but it's generally those four with routine submission finishers. Right, because no one is booked to look really strong anymore, and no one wants to look weak by tapping out, even once. Please excuse the double-post, just wanted to tack on to this that the average idiot WWE fan has made submission finishers something of taboo, because now anytime a guy loses via submission, the idiots chant YOU TAPPED OUT!
razazteca Posted February 6, 2007 Report Posted February 6, 2007 Yeah, I've never been able to buy Edge's spear, he's just to thin looking. It would be OK as a setup move, but it's not a believable finisher. He should go back to using that "Edge-lock" Sharpshooter type variation he had for a while, but I guess main eventers aren't allowed to have submission finishers in WWE (other than John Cena's STFU). Submissions aren't exactly used much anymore as finishers with the exception of Cena, Punk, Benoit, and Masters. Some use submissions as set ups but it's generally those four with routine submission finishers. Right, because no one is booked to look really strong anymore, and no one wants to look weak by tapping out, even once. Please excuse the double-post, just wanted to tack on to this that the average idiot WWE fan has made submission finishers something of taboo, because now anytime a guy loses via submission, the idiots chant YOU TAPPED OUT! That happens when you make the Pavlovian link to a theme song. WWE wants the fans to chant every single catch phrase well this what you get.
The Niggardly King Posted February 6, 2007 Report Posted February 6, 2007 "CM PUNK!" "CM PUNK!" "CM PUNK!"
Guest Princess Leena Posted February 6, 2007 Report Posted February 6, 2007 So, where was Khali? If he's gonna "work" with Hogan at WM, they should be letting him headbutt little guys and scream a lot.
TheFranchise Posted February 7, 2007 Report Posted February 7, 2007 I'll second the Khali request, he's usually a Fantasy goldmine!
razazteca Posted February 7, 2007 Report Posted February 7, 2007 So, where was Khali? If he's gonna "work" with Hogan at WM, they should be letting him headbutt little guys and scream a lot. If I was Hogan I would demand that Khali start working every single house show so that he at least knows not to drop people on their heads while doing bodyslams or chokeslams or powerbombs or atomic drops. If I was Hogan I would fear that Khali would break both my hips and legs while attempting a bodyslam.
Exslade ZX Posted February 7, 2007 Report Posted February 7, 2007 "CM PUNK!" "CM PUNK!" "CM PUNK!" That second pic in your sig... That really scares the shit out of me.
razazteca Posted February 7, 2007 Report Posted February 7, 2007 To Snitsky- And where the HELL have you been lately?! Pieces of shit like you really piss me OFF hanging out backstage doing NOTHING every week and now i hear you're going to go to ECW? EC FREAKING W? WOOOOOO I dont know about you snitsky but I'd rather be bustin my ass out on RAW then on ECW where nobody even watches me week in and week out! people like you piss me off so you can just go to ECW with all those other REJECTS and destroy the sport I love and when it all comes crashing down on you snitsky, and ECW goes out of business, then that, THAT will be your fault. WOOOOOOOO! ..I tried. Apparently Snitsky was in the bathroom getting a full body shave he now looks like the bastard child of Kane and Goldberg.
Mecca Posted February 7, 2007 Report Posted February 7, 2007 To Snitsky- And where the HELL have you been lately?! Pieces of shit like you really piss me OFF hanging out backstage doing NOTHING every week and now i hear you're going to go to ECW? EC FREAKING W? WOOOOOO I dont know about you snitsky but I'd rather be bustin my ass out on RAW then on ECW where nobody even watches me week in and week out! people like you piss me off so you can just go to ECW with all those other REJECTS and destroy the sport I love and when it all comes crashing down on you snitsky, and ECW goes out of business, then that, THAT will be your fault. WOOOOOOOO! ..I tried. Apparently Snitsky was in the bathroom getting a full body shave he now looks like the bastard child of Kane and Goldberg. With bad acne.......
Mecca Posted February 7, 2007 Report Posted February 7, 2007 Snitsky needs the Kane mask! He needs some proactive solution.....or atleast a dermatologist.
razazteca Posted February 7, 2007 Report Posted February 7, 2007 Hour 3 of Raw is great with Matt Striker in every segment and The Alpha Male on commentary!
Mecca Posted February 7, 2007 Report Posted February 7, 2007 I wanna know who thinks putting Matt Striker all over TV is a good idea.
razazteca Posted February 7, 2007 Report Posted February 7, 2007 He was good up until spoiling the finish of the show. No more special time keeper/bell ringer/ring announcer Striker! He did great with the introductions going as far as to say that he perfectly emulated the regular announcers but then screwed up at the end of the match by deciding that it was 2 minutes past the hour and announced the winner before the ref got to do the 3 count.
UseTheSledgehammerUh Posted February 7, 2007 Report Posted February 7, 2007 ECW has turned into WCW 2000, with a million angles at once and the "New Blood, er Breed against the Old Guys". The thought of Kevin Thorn being a "yes man" bell keeper makes me want to go download this show.
Superfly Snuka Posted February 7, 2007 Report Posted February 7, 2007 I wanna know who thinks putting Matt Striker all over TV is a good idea. I actually thought it was great. I don't know about him as a wrestler, but as a character/announcer/commentator, he's really good at being the annoying heel. As far as charisma goes, he has much more than anyone else on ECW.
Dobbs 3K Posted February 7, 2007 Report Posted February 7, 2007 Matt Striker is going to be like that one guy towards the end of WCW...dammit, I can't even remember his name, but he started as a wrestler and became more of a commisioner/announcer...he was like Kevin Nash's lackey or something.
razazteca Posted February 7, 2007 Report Posted February 7, 2007 ECW has turned into WCW 2000, with a million angles at once and the "New Blood, er Breed against the Old Guys". The thought of Kevin Thorn being a "yes man" bell keeper makes me want to go download this show. Add another tall bald boring guy like say Mike Knox or freaking fake Kane to pair up with Snitsky and you got the Harris Boys!
EVIL~! alkeiper Posted February 7, 2007 Report Posted February 7, 2007 He was good up until spoiling the finish of the show. No more special time keeper/bell ringer/ring announcer Striker! He did great with the introductions going as far as to say that he perfectly emulated the regular announcers but then screwed up at the end of the match by deciding that it was 2 minutes past the hour and announced the winner before the ref got to do the 3 count. Was it screwed up? I got the idea that it was a ruse to distract Van Dam.
razazteca Posted February 7, 2007 Report Posted February 7, 2007 He was good up until spoiling the finish of the show. No more special time keeper/bell ringer/ring announcer Striker! He did great with the introductions going as far as to say that he perfectly emulated the regular announcers but then screwed up at the end of the match by deciding that it was 2 minutes past the hour and announced the winner before the ref got to do the 3 count. Was it screwed up? I got the idea that it was a ruse to distract Van Dam. At the time it happened RVD was pinning Burke and the ref had the count at 2 then Striker said the winner was Burke without any kind of cover up like making up his own rules. This was as bad as Baldie DeVito coming out of the front row to take the mic to give a long rant then saying that it was all fake and sat back down for minutes until anybody came down to beat him up!
Superfly Snuka Posted February 8, 2007 Report Posted February 8, 2007 He was good up until spoiling the finish of the show. No more special time keeper/bell ringer/ring announcer Striker! He did great with the introductions going as far as to say that he perfectly emulated the regular announcers but then screwed up at the end of the match by deciding that it was 2 minutes past the hour and announced the winner before the ref got to do the 3 count. Was it screwed up? I got the idea that it was a ruse to distract Van Dam. No, it wasn't screwed up; it was a ruse to distract the referee from making the count and the eventual low-blow to RVD. Perfectly timed.
razazteca Posted February 8, 2007 Report Posted February 8, 2007 As Jerry Lawler used to say it was a Extreme Crappy Wrestling finish with bad camera angles.
Downhome Posted February 8, 2007 Report Posted February 8, 2007 Matt Striker is going to be like that one guy towards the end of WCW...dammit, I can't even remember his name, but he started as a wrestler and became more of a commisioner/announcer...he was like Kevin Nash's lackey or something.
cabbageboy Posted February 8, 2007 Report Posted February 8, 2007 I'm so glad I didn't watch that ECW show. Van Dam jobbing to Elijah Burke. His career has hit a new low. Previously it was jobbing to the likes of Dupree and Suzuki in 2004 on Smackdown. Do they not realize that it doesn't even get a guy over when you job out a guy so obviously better to him? Even the dumbest idiot in the crowd would raise an eyebrow at that result, so the end result isn't "Wow, Elijah Burke is a real up and comer, what a great win over a former world champion." It's more like "Jesus, what did Van Dam DO to lose to this guy?" See Jordan, Orlando vs. Benoit, Chris from the 2005 Great American Bash for reference.
ChrisMWaters Posted February 8, 2007 Author Report Posted February 8, 2007 See Jordan, Orlando vs. Benoit, Chris from the 2005 Great American Bash for reference. Except in that case, they made it up the next month by having Benoit beat Jordan in 25.5 seconds. I doubt Van Dam will get the same treatment.
Dobbs 3K Posted February 8, 2007 Report Posted February 8, 2007 Mike Sanders? Yep, that's who I was thinking of. Matt Striker is like Mike Sanders.
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