The Niggardly King 0 Report post Posted March 21, 2007 Lesnar is a freak of nature who was huge when he was 15. He's always been big like that, but he never was really cut... until he started wrestling. I'd say he was on roids to maintain his definition. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Niggardly King 0 Report post Posted March 21, 2007 It's weird when Adam "THE EDGE" Copeland knocks out the "legit" athletes out of the story's headline. It's basically become "OH GOD THESE WRESTLERS ARE ON ROIDS OH MAN, UNBELIEVABLE... oh yeah, Jose Canseco, Evander Holyfeild, and John Rocker were on them. BUT SLY STALLONE AND REY MYSTERIO AND THE HURRICANE WERE ON THEM... THEY USE THESE STEROIDS, WHO CARES, BRING BACK KILLER KOWALSKI!" They didn't even make a big deal out of Kurt Angle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yankovic fan 0 Report post Posted March 21, 2007 I'm not surprised about Hurricane Helms. He used to chokeslam wrestlers a lot bigger than him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Human Fly 0 Report post Posted March 21, 2007 I know this is a major story, but I really think that it could become a business changing story. The Wellness policy was obviously on the way out. If this story had not broken then I doubt we ever would have seen a major round of tests again. If Edge or Orton were scheduled to win at Mania I bet that is out the window now. You can probably count on April - May being big months for suspensions now. Any of your wrestlers without traditional "bodies" (Jeff Hardy, CM Punk, Finlay, etc.) could be in line for some pushes now. Or it could just blow over in a week... Why would Edge and Orton get punished for something that happened 2 years ago? Seems silly to punish them for past deeds... I do not think it would be a punishment per se. Just kind of laying low until things die down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest robrabies Report post Posted March 21, 2007 Anyone who didn't think that Goldberg or Lesnar were on roids is an idiot. Goldberg's traps were like mountains in WCW. Whether or not he was in the NFL before is immaterial...that sport probably has the highest of all steriod and PED usage, it is only protected because of its current place in the catbird seat of American entertainment. FWIW, saying Lesnar was big in high school isn't an excuse either. You can get steroids about as easy as you can weed. Several guys used to sell them at my college rec center on the DL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheech Tremendous 0 Report post Posted March 21, 2007 It's weird when Adam "THE EDGE" Copeland knocks out the "legit" athletes out of the story's headline. It's basically become "OH GOD THESE WRESTLERS ARE ON ROIDS OH MAN, UNBELIEVABLE... oh yeah, Jose Canseco, Evander Holyfeild, and John Rocker were on them. BUT SLY STALLONE AND REY MYSTERIO AND THE HURRICANE WERE ON THEM... THEY USE THESE STEROIDS, WHO CARES, BRING BACK KILLER KOWALSKI!" They didn't even make a big deal out of Kurt Angle. Matthews Jr., Rocker and Holyfield were stories that were beaten into the ground for the last 2-3 weeks. When their names came out it got huge press coverage from tons of media outlets. This story has been getting major publicity for weeks on end and has been analyzed from many different angles. The WWE part is just the newest wrinkle in the story. It wouldn't have gotten much press coverage on its own merits, but this investigation is breaking up one of the largest steroid rings in the US, perceived to be even larger than BALCO. It has nothing to do with MNF or WWE, it's about steroids, which is a major hot button issue amongst professional athletes at the moment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enigma 0 Report post Posted March 21, 2007 Former WWE, WCW, and TNA wrestler Diamond Dallas Page will be a guest on ESPN Radio's Dan Patrick Show today between 1:40 PM EDT - 3:50 PM EDT. Patrick and Keith Olbermann will also discuss the steroid story between 2-3 pm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Atticus Chaos 0 Report post Posted March 21, 2007 Dear Blogees (did I just create a word?) If you are reading this blog and it sees the light of day, than that means that an article has been written by a Sports Illustrated writer that states I received HGH from a pharmacy in 2003. So, I'll cut right to the chase like I always do. It's true. However, it's not exactly breaking, earth shattering news. It's actually old news. I admitted to this on national television in Canada in 2004 on Off The Record. When host Michael Lansberg asked me if I'd ever taken steroids, without consulting me before the show, I was perturbed, but answered without hesitation, "Yes, I have." In hindsight, I'm glad he asked the question. It got it out in the open and anyone who follows my career or supports me already knows this information about me. I won't try to defend my actions. I took them when coming back from my spinal fusion neck surgery when I was told by doctors that it would help the bones grow back around the screws and plate that were now inserted in my neck. I'm not glorifying. I'm not condoning. Just telling you why I decided to take them. I took blood tests, consulted doctors, read up, studied them, got prescriptions, and decided to do it. That's pretty much it folks, but I wanted you to get my response straight from me and not through the words of another writer. Now as I'm sure most you can tell, I don't take steroids and haven't in a very long time, long before the WWE drug testing wellness policy was implemented. Hell, I barely see the inside of a gym anymore, let alone take performance enhancing substances! So, in closing, to the columnist (not the Sports Illustrated columnist, but actually another one) who said a "roided up thing called Edge" was at the NHL ALL Star Game a few weeks ago, in 2003, this may have been true. Now, not in the least, as my random urine tests, which have always been negative will attest. I guess I'll take the fact that he thought I was as somewhat of a compliment. To the fact that I've been lucky enough to have been gifted with a 6 foot 5, 240lb body naturally. And finally made it to the top of my industry last year on my own, clean as a whistle. To those, like that columnist and any other naysayers that will hold my past against me? I've made mistakes. Will do so again in the future I'm sure. But I won't hide from them. If you're reading this, you know that's not my style. Until next time, from everybody's favorite, clean urine, Edgemiester! from edge's myspace Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted March 22, 2007 From the comments section of espn.com and since corrected by others. you know what surprises me is that they went through 3 ultimate warriors.all died of health related issue due to steroids ok only two, one commited suicide. but how do you have all the wrestlers names and not include obvious people like cena, the master lock guy, andbatista. i mean if they would have said "The big show" i would have disclaimed the idea cause well acromegally isn't HGH, it's a disease your born with. but all in all these guys are athletes but i mean Mick Foley and the undertaker i don't think either of those guy took steroid cause i mean look at them they're not the typical look of steroids. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrVenkman PhD 0 Report post Posted March 23, 2007 Thursday, March 22, 2007 HELMS RESPONDS! So, heard any good internet stories lately? :) Before I start I wanna say that the fans here in Mexico City are awesome! They greeted us in the airport with cheers, hugs and gifts and an enthusiasm that reminds me of just why I love perfoming so much! Now, before I clear the air, I wanna ask a question? If you get hurt and a doctor prescribes you a medicine/drug and therapy to help you and you take it, did that become wrong somewhere? Did I miss a meeting? No need to answer because apparently the answer is yes. Apparently pro wrestlers never get hurt and if they do they aren't allowed to get treatment. So anyway, here's the story, several years ago I had hurt my knee and was advised by 2 different doctors to undergo this particular therapy. I didn't ask for it, hell, I didn't even know about it, all I knew is that I didn't want to have to have surgery. Not to mention that I would like for my life after wrestling to be as painless as possible. I won't be able to wrestle forever and I would hope that I'm entitled to the best quality of life availalbe to me when that time comes. I would like to think that it's well in my human rights to take whatever a doctor tells me to if it helps my condition and relieves my pain. Isn't that what everyone goes to a doctor for? Shane Helms committed no crime and did absolutely nothing illegal. And that is a FACT!!! Trust me, there are a million ways to get any kind of legal or illegal medicine/drug you want. However, I was under the assumption that going thru a doctor, getting treatment and therapy for a totally LEGAL medicine was the right way to go about dealing with this particular injury. And this injury that might have led to surgery had I not taken the therapy that I did. It's strange how that part of the story was conviently left out! Besides, look at me! I'm not 300 lbs of muscle, the biggest I've ever been is 215, I'm not abusing ANYTHING other that the abuse my body takes doing the job I love. Hell, I didn't even drink alcohol until I was 27. Now I get that this "reporter" was just doing his job and was only using certain names from his list to sensationalize the article. And I guess it makes it sound more colorful to use the name Hurricane although I haven't been The Hurricane in almost 2 years now. Hell I guess this guy can pretty much get away with saying whatever he feels, I honestly don't know. I don't know him and I don't even deal with that particular Doctor anymore either. And if that Doctor did anything wrong himself, as long as it didn't involve me it shouldn't concern me or be directed towards me. Am I making an excuse? Not at all. Making up an excuse would be admitting that I did something wrong or illegal. I did neither. I'm just a guy that has torn his body to shreds for the job he loves. And there are times that I've had to do to the hospital and get different kinds of medicines/drugs/whatever to help me heal. I'm not Wolverine, I can't heal from every injury instantaneaously. I get hurt! And I'll get hurt again. I've said a million times, I never got into wrestling for the fame or the fortune, I got into because I genuinely love it. I put 100% of my heart into it and unfortunately my body pays the price. That's not a complaint, that's simply . . . reality. On a different note. I hope my performance this week on Smackdown this week is okay. I had one of the worst flu-bugs of my life this weekend. I was sick to a point where I couldn't get out of bed and questioned whether I'd even be able to make it to do TV this week. However, I did make it to the show. I found out that I'd be wrestling Chris Benoit and then had to make a decision, call in sick or try and tough it out. Calling in sick . . . . not my style. I vomitted a total of 3 times in the 2 hours leading up to my match and I was really just physically drained as I was standing at the curtain. I remember Johnny Ace and Dean Malenko both asking me was I ok, I shook my head yes, but my body was saying, "Wtf?" :) Anyway, I did the match. It might not be the performance of my life, but I gave it everything I had. Not to mention, I took a knee to the head that almosted ended my night on contact! LOL Later, I got to the back, tried drinking a Gatorade, threw that up as well, threw up twice more and was finally done with the "being sick" portion of my evening. My partners in crime, the CCB, took damn good care of me. I love my friends and my world is a brighter place because of them. Now strangely enough but not surprisingly at all, this story didn't make any of the wrestling news websites. I guess making wrestling or wrestlers (especially me) look good is something they don't like to do much anymore, there's no "HITS" off of good news ya know? It boggles my mind when I think about how much exposure these "enemies of pro-wrestling" get off of pro-wrestling websites. How many years have I been on the net giving countless hours of myself to my fans? How many hosiptals and schools have I visited to help under priviledged kids and wounded soldiers? How much money have I donated to various charities for no other reason than to help. All of these things are neglected by these websites yet they all jumped on this story just to drum up attention. Makes me wonder if this BLOG will receive as many posts? With that being said, I want to thank from the bottom of my heart all the support from my friends and family since this debacle started. My "inner circle" stays tight! Surprisingly, even the MySpace crowd has been, I'd say . . . 97% positive. I think my personality comes thru on my page and this attempt to villify me has thankfully fallen on a lot of deaf ears. To the 3% or so that have said bad things to or about me regarding this issue whether here or in some other forum, hey, it's all cool. You can't hurt me, cuz you mean nothing to me. Thanks again to everyone that's supported me, I love you all. Now forget all this bullshit and go have some fun! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CBright7831 0 Report post Posted March 26, 2007 Remember guys: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuBFlsDLVZ8&NR What a way to cap off a thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites