Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2007 Yeah, realizing that your country sits back and watches people die like that would piss me off too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gary Floyd 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2007 Yeah, realizing that your country sits back and watches people die like that would piss me off too. Keep digging that hole Curry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2007 gary, you need to insinuate that me and Rudo have gay sex and make fun of MMA. That's the standard course of insults here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
treble 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2007 Suspect in Virginia Tech shooting on the run Police have now confirmed the possibility of a second shooter. Several witnesses reported seeing a suspicious subject fleeing from the general vicinity of the shootings just after the last shots rang out. The suspect is described as a 6'6, 220 pound velociraptor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2007 MVP! MVP! MVP! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2007 Having actually known people that were shot and killed (by an Asian student, no less) I can honestly say that worst aspect of the entire thing, aside from the actual deaths, was the media attention. This Cnn/etc round-the-clock bullshit must be excrutiating for the actual families/friends of the victims. While people grieve, their phones are probably ringing off the hook, and the reporters masturbate for a fresh scoop at their doorstep. But it's going to be fine because these graphics fucking rock! Not coincidentally, in my own experience the only person who bathed himself in the media spotlight was the biological father of one of the victims...a guy that had basically abandoned his son from childhood until his death became a media circus. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gary Floyd 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2007 Having actually known people that were shot and killed (by an Asian student, no less) I can honestly say that worst aspect of the entire thing, aside from the actual deaths, was the media attention. This Cnn/etc round-the-clock bullshit must be excrutiating for the actual families/friends of the victims. While people grieve, their phones are probably ringing off the hook, and the reporters masturbate for a fresh scoop at their doorstep. But it's going to be fine because these graphics fucking rock! Not coincidentally, in my own experience the only person who bathed himself in the media spotlight was the biological father of one of the victims...a guy that had basically abandoned his son from childhood until his death became a media circus. QFT. Shit like this really makes you realize how worthless the news media can be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbacon 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2007 We all need to know exactly what witnesses felt though imho Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2007 The person on CNN.com who pretended to be dead during the shootings had the right idea. Soon enough every classroom in America will be equipped with "Fake shooting victims kit". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tominator89 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2007 Probably wild speculation but the internets have dug up the dude's blog, pictures, etc: http://wanusmaximus.livejournal.com/ facebook D: He updated his livejournal. Not the shooter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbacon 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2007 Still a pretty messed up blog, what with all the Ann Coulter quotes and dead deer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gary Floyd 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2007 Probably wild speculation but the internets have dug up the dude's blog, pictures, etc: http://wanusmaximus.livejournal.com/ facebook D: He updated his livejournal. Not the shooter. Cute girlfriend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theintensifier 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2007 That'd garner some type of negative outburst from a family member of one of the deceased for sure. And damn, how often do you change your signature Curry? I've noticed three or four changes today alone! No you haven't. I was rocking the Hughes sig for a good week or so before switching to Omar. What about the picture with the two brothers/rich Italian/80's movie star? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted April 17, 2007 Curry should have every post he made in this thread deleted. Keep that anti-US shit to your damn self, 33 PEOPLE fucking died. Who gives a shit whether they're American's or not, they're human beings. Mass shootings are not exclusive to the United States. In most other countries they have big time hostage situations over things that have been pushed under the surface. Russia anyone? Not to mention that we rarely have problems with riots in this country, just in case there's some Eurotrash piece of shit reading this post thinking how fucked up the US is. I hate when citizens of other countries focus on our problems when their country pushes their's under the rug and ignores them until shit blows up. We as a public don't talk about Canadian problems, we leave them to deal with it on their own. You guys should do the fucking same in regards to us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted April 17, 2007 Also, if someone wants to go on a mass shooting spree, they're going to do it. It doesn't matter what country they're in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theintensifier 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2007 I understand this is the internet and everything, and showing compassion means nothing, but for fucks sake, enough is enough. I hate how when tragedies like this occur, the media and "experts" are so quick to point their crooked little fingers at entertainment (video games/porn/violence on tv) instead of just admitting that we live in a very cruel and cynical world with individuals quite capable of commiting harsh injustices against their fellow man and woman. I'm as patriotic as most, if not more, but there surely comes a time when I am sometimes ashamed of my country and its actions, or lack there of. When things like this happen elsewhere in the world, they do not blame entertainment, but the individual or organization responsible. Like an AA meeting, the first step towards recovery is admitting you have a problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cabbageboy 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2007 When I first heard about this I assumed it was a deal like Charles Whitman where some nut holed up in a tower and shot people from high up. I'm amazed that anyone could actually go around a campus with a handgun shooting everyone. Two aspects amaze me: --That there were 2 hours between the initial killings and then the classroom shootings. With a killer on the loose I'm just stunned that they didn't cancel class until the guy was caught. --No one jumped this idiot to take the gun? In most of these incidents there is someone who at least tried to jump the shooter and disarm him. You're telling me not one guy in the class made a run at this punk? This terrifies me because whenever I hear about shootings like this I can't help but think about schools I've attended and how easy it would be for some psycho to open fire there. After Columbine I thought about my HS and how people can wander in and out relatively easy, get a gun from their car, etc. And today I couldn't help but think about how easy it would be for someone to shoot up U of L, especially around the Student Activities Center. Creeps me out to no end. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smues Report post Posted April 17, 2007 Curry should have every post he made in this thread deleted. Keep that anti-US shit to your damn self, 33 PEOPLE fucking died. Who gives a shit whether they're American's or not, they're human beings. Well 32 of them are, I think we're allowed to exclude the murderer from the human race. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted April 17, 2007 I didn't know that he was counted in that number. My apologies. Now let's laugh at the US because their media outlets include him among the deaths. us sux Sure these school shootings happen a lot in the US. That's because... A) Kids are ignored by their parents and left to do as they please, giving them more free time to take their life down the wrong tracks. B) Higher population (and) density, which brings more crime. C) The relative ease of procuring weapons on the black market, through gangs and whatnot. The big cities attract illegal activity. Canada does not have near as many big cities as we do. Obviously that's why they do not have this problem as often. Here's a list of school shootings around the world. Enoch Brown school massacre - Franklin County, Pennsylvania, United States; July 26, 1764 Bath School disaster - Bath, Michigan, United States; May 18, 1927 Poe Elementary School Attack - Houston, Texas, United States; September 15, 1959 Cologne School Massacre - Cologne, Germany; June 11, 1964 University of Texas at Austin Tower Massacre - Austin, Texas, United States; August 1, 1966 Avivim school bus massacre, Israel by Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine (DFLP); 1970 Kent State shootings - Kent, Ohio, United States; May 4, 1970 Ma'alot massacre, Israel by DFLP ; 1974 California State University, Fullerton Library Massacre - Fullerton, California, United States; July 12, 1976 École Polytechnique Massacre - Montreal, Quebec, Canada; 1989 Stockton Massacre - Stockton, California, United States, 1989 University of Iowa shooting - Iowa City, Iowa, United States; 1991 Concordia University massacre - Montreal, Quebec, Canada; August 24, 1992 Simon's Rock College of Bard shooting - Great Barrington, Massachusetts, United States; December 14, 1992 Richland High School shooting - Lynnville, Tennessee, United States; November 15, 1995. Frontier Junior High shooting - Moses Lake, Washington, United States; February 2, 1996 Dunblane massacre - Dunblane, Scotland, United Kingdom; March 13, 1996 Sanaa massacre - Sanaa, Yemen; 1997 Pearl High School shooting, Pearl, Mississippi, United States; October 1, 1997 Heath High School shooting, West Paducah, Kentucky, United States; December 1, 1997 Jonesboro massacre - Craighead County (near Jonesboro), Arkansas, United States; March 24, 1998 Columbine High School massacre - Jefferson County (near Denver and Littleton), Colorado, United States; April 20, 1999 Santana High School - Santee, California,United States (near San Diego, California) Osaka school massacre - Ikeda, Japan; 2001 Erfurt massacre - Erfurt, Germany; 2002 Rocori High School shootings - Cold Spring, Minnesota, United States; 2003 Beslan school hostage crisis - Beslan, Russia; 2004 Red Lake High School massacre - Red Lake, Minnesota, United States; 2005 Dawson College shooting - Montreal, Quebec, Canada; 2006 Amish school shooting - Nickel Mines, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, United States; 2006 Platte Canyon High School shooting - Bailey, Colorado, United States; 2006 Virginia Tech shootings - Blacksburg, Virginia, United States; April 16, 2007 Now, as anyone familiar with the United States could see, a lot of the shooting sites in this country are near BIG CITIES. Look it up on the map if you don't believe me. I haven't read about all of these, but I'm guessing that a lot of them would have shooters that procured their weapons illegally. I'm sure that this isn't nearly a full list, as some governments around the world try to keep these things on the hush. This is just the school shootings. I'm sure there's way more mass shootings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hasbeen1 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2007 The one who should be blamed is the shooter. I think that's getting lost in all of this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Henry Spencer 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2007 http://www.shootproject.com/thepit/index.php?showtopic=2255 Meanwhile, over at The Pit... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2007 "Historically speaking, America will accept tragedies like this as long as they can maintain easy access to a wide variety of firearms, and another tragedy will not change this. That is probably more tragic than the obscenely tragic events of today in Virginia, which itself is horribly depressing, and my thoughts and prayers go out to everyone affected by this terrible event." Posted somewhere else. Pretty much it. The level of grandeur in terms of shock and terror still has potential to rise before something gets done. And King, ease up. It's been a shitty day. I have very much not lost sight of the fact that a bunch of lives were changed because of this. I have no issues with leaving your country to deal with it's own messes, I just think it sucks that you've got such large ones in the first place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hasbeen1 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2007 Are you missing the point that he would have done this, whether he obtained the gun or guns legally or illegally? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted April 17, 2007 "Historically speaking, America will accept tragedies like this as long as they can maintain easy access to a wide variety of firearms, and another tragedy will not change this. That is probably more tragic than the obscenely tragic events of today in Virginia, which itself is horribly depressing, and my thoughts and prayers go out to everyone affected by this terrible event." Posted somewhere else. Pretty much it. The level of grandeur in terms of shock and terror still has potential to rise before something gets done. And King, ease up. It's been a shitty day. I have very much not lost sight of the fact that a bunch of lives were changed because of this. I have no issues with leaving your country to deal with it's own messes, I just think it sucks that you've got such large ones in the first place. I'm pretty eased up. Our country really doesn't have large domestic issues. It's the issues abroad in which we are involved with that are the problem. Like I said though, if you want to kill a bunch of people, you're going to do it no matter what. That's part of living in a free society, that one is able to make those decisions. I'm reading about all those shootings that I posted above, and these shooters were pretty fucked up to begin with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foleyfanforever88 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2007 Is it confirmed that the guy w/ the pics and the livejournal was not the shooter? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vigo 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2007 Is it confirmed that the guy w/ the pics and the livejournal was not the shooter? The guy himself has said that he's not the shooter and now seems to want to share his story via the news channels. I bet he will be on CNN sometime soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hasbeen1 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2007 I believe I read that's not him, either it was mistaken identity or a pretty pathetic hoax by someone knowing him or knowing of him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theintensifier 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2007 Coincedence? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike wanna be 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2007 --That there were 2 hours between the initial killings and then the classroom shootings. With a killer on the loose I'm just stunned that they didn't cancel class until the guy was caught. The first two shot still haven't been tied to the second set. That said, that dorm is full of 800+ people; assuming it's the same guy, if even a handful made a run for the door, could he not have just shoved the handguns into his pockets and run into the pack while looking completely inconspicuous? They can't exactly stop people running for their lives to check for weaponry. --No one jumped this idiot to take the gun? In most of these incidents there is someone who at least tried to jump the shooter and disarm him. You're telling me not one guy in the class made a run at this punk? According to the bald girl witness, he just barely entered the room (~5 feet from the door). Hardly any classrooms I've ever seen have seats THAT close to the door, so anybody that did make a run probably couldn't close the gap to avoid getting hit anyway. That said, one has to wonder if they had just shut the school down...what difference would it have made? Regardless of whether or not both shootings were done by the same guy (which I doubt; as Carlin put it in a slightly out-of-context joke, "If they do get out, what do you expect them to do, HANG AROUND? Check real estate prices? Hell no *whistling sound* they're fuckin gone!"), he clearly got on campus and into a heavily populated building with 2 semi-automatic handguns; if they shut down on Monday because fo the 7:15 shootings, who's to say he doesn't just come right back on Tuesday, Wednesday, whenever the cops leave? Like the president of VT said, it's a 24000 student school with over 100 buildings; you can't put guards at every door and you can't examine every person that comes in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
