The eList

[Guest Rex]

I found this thing on wikipedia called "The eList". It's list "unofficially" recognizes the best eFeds of the past and present that have suceeded their stiff rules.

 

And guess what? This efeds is on it, officially (to them) recognizing our belts as world ewrestling championships!

 

Do you believe that ewrestling should actually be represented by a collection of hundreds of efeds rather than a dozen great ones like this list suggests?

 

Check it out and give your review!

 

http://ewrestling.wikia.com/wiki/The_eList

[Secret Agent 0]

Interesting.

[Golgo 13 0]

Speaking of. Since I never had my request for IGNML shows and titles filled and I'm the only one that pays any attention to it, this is just a reminder that we do have a page at that wiki for your use and various contributions.

[Guest Rex]

Speaking of. Since I never had my request for IGNML shows and titles filled and I'm the only one that pays any attention to it, this is just a reminder that we do have a page at that wiki for your use and various contributions.

 

Um, i believe that link is on the efeds page already.

[Golgo 13 0]

Yeah. I was just bringing attention to our page itself since the topic was brought up again.

[Guest Rex]

Yeah. I was just bringing attention to our page itself since the topic was brought up again.

 

oh, ok. cool.

[Mr. S£im Citrus 0]

Good job on the WHC Title History, whomever did that; any plans to catch up the other titles?

[Golgo 13 0]

Yes. The Tag Championship is already done, I'll just leave it to someone else to fill in the gaps. It's really tiresome adapting the format of the current list to the table in the effort to make it look nice, though. There has to be a better way.

[Toxxic 0]

I just followed that link and there's nothing on the other end. Was this created by someone but then deleted?

[Guest Rex]

I just followed that link and there's nothing on the other end. Was this created by someone but then deleted?

 

 

ok ok relax.

 

the wiki guys are telling me that the elist is a "form of advertisement", so i can.t put it on there

 

but since they like the idea so much, they're going to allow me to post it onto the wiki forums page as a temperary site until i build a new elist website.

 

sheesh. i've never even made a website before, but i'll do my best, so just hold tight.

 

the elist is not gone.

[Secret Agent 0]

It was made by you? Who gives a damn about what you recognize or don't. If this was done by someone with some clout it might matter, but if it were I don't think your silly EMF would be anywhere near cracking that list. Damn, you had me excited over nothing.

 

[/toxxic]

[Guest Rex]

It was made by you? Who gives a damn about what you recognize or don't. If this was done by someone with some clout it might matter, but if it were I don't think your silly EMF would be anywhere near cracking that list. Damn, you had me excited over nothing.

 

[/toxxic]

 

What the fuck, man?

 

First of all, I’m a researcher for the elist, looking up championships and cuh. I’m now a part of the buold team for the elist website and I DO NOT appreciate your lack of respect for the hard work I’ve done!

 

Secondly, the elist was designed to be unbias. We knew that people would want to add whomever, but they added RULES to qualify for in oder to keep the list down and efficient. In my honest opinion, there are a few feeds I wouldn’t want on there, EMF included, but the fact that the rules makethe elist unbias makes it good enough for me.

 

As far as legitimacy goes, I didn’t create it, but I’d still hope it would be just as respected because of how great a concept it is. The real creator guys I don’t know well but I guess they are former newa and wwa world champs whom have been around for almost a decade.

 

And speaking of the EMF : I quit them a LONG time ago. In fact, I quit wrestling altogether a while ago since I felt that it was turning me into a forum monkey when I could have an active life hanging out with real friends. It was a couple of guys who felt the same way that convinced me to do this. E-Wrestling was a great concept that lost it’s legitimacy when it sprouted hundreds of feeds, but thanks to this elist, I think we may actually get some of that legitimacy back! People have been telling me for a while now that “eWrestling can’t have legitimacy” well, we’ll see about that!

 

And what’s the deal with calling me a clout? I come here, practically rewarding you with a great honor that NO ONE needed to give you and you call the messenger names? Is it because I quit the SWF? Why do you fed heads always get all huffy when someone leaves? Get over it! People move on, there’s no need to act like they betrayed you or something. It’s never personal, so stop being so defensive.

 

I’ve been considering coming back to wrestling and you guys would have been my #2 stop but with an attitude like that you can forget it!

[Sly 0]

Holy shit, calm the fuck down.

[Mr. S£im Citrus 0]

You were here before? As whom?

[Angel_Grace_Blue 0]

He was the 'mighty' Rex, the leader (I think) of Team EMF. You know, the guys that made boasts about kicking the SWF's ass, but left before they had a single match? You don't? lollerzorz.

 

I find it funny that in the original post, Rex said the eList recognizes "our" titles as being official, when as I just said, he never had a real match.

 

Also: Johnny didn't call you a clout. Clout means having some form of power or legitimacy, something JD obviously feels you lack.

 

I, however, will now call you a trout. Rex, you are a trout.

 

Edit: Didn't catch this earlier, but all of what Johnny said was followed with [/toxxic] which meant that JD was pretending to be Mike, so it's not like Johnny himself said those things, or thinks you have no clout, but it's what fake Toxxic thinks.

 

I still think you are a trout, though. Just for the record.

[Nightwing 0]

This place is beyond weird.

[Toxxic 0]

...OK, why did my name have to get dragged into this?

 

And Rex, if you were 'rewarding us with a great honour' out of the goodness of your heart, then clearly your list is not unbiased. If your list IS unbiased, then you've got no right to get huffy because we would then have every right to be on that list, our attitude to you regardless.

 

And Johnny is not our fedhead. Please, never ever think that Johnny is our fedhead. However, I think the attitude to you stems from a few things:

 

a) you originally tried to pass this list off as something you stumbled upon, when in fact you created it yourself. This suggests that you already knew that saying you created it yourself would make it lose credibility.

b) you joined the fed and left before your first match was even completed, citing 'not enough time', which begs the question why you joined in the first place unless it was to pimp the EMF that you claim not to have been involved in for ages (despite the fact that you talked about the fed as though you were active in it when you turned up here).

c) you and your dumb buddy completely failed to read our rules, joining guidelines or in fact, anything else.

d) your debut promo contained a racist slur which you failed to remove when Flesher called you on it, and only subsequently removed when I called you on it in public.

e) your writing sucked. Personally that's something I feel we could have worked on, but not everyone's as forgiving as me.

 

Now, if you'd have come back to the fed, joined, paid a little more attention to things, not claimed to have your wrestler come from a cake (the 'Nevada Dessert'? And yes, I'm stealing Drea's joke/observation here), avoided racist terminology, stuck around and written I'd have been glad to have you as a writer, whatever your quality of writing. As it is, I'm not that bothered. Go back to the real-life friends you abandoned e-wrestling for (although presumably they're not that interesting, since you're considering coming back to e-wrestling).

 

Thanks.

 

The 'Real' Toxxic

 

 

 

Insert post from Muzz abusing me and swearing a lot here.

[Ace309 0]

And what’s the deal with calling me a clout? I come here, practically rewarding you with a great honor that NO ONE needed to give you and you call the messenger names? Is it because I quit the SWF? Why do you fed heads always get all huffy when someone leaves? Get over it! People move on, there’s no need to act like they betrayed you or something. It’s never personal, so stop being so defensive.

"Someone with some clout" is an expression meaning "someone with the power to change things." "Clout" is a noun synonymous with "stroke," "power" or "pull."

[Smartly Pretty 0]

Drea is my favorite person.

 

At least in this thread, right now.

[Guest Rex]

Ok. The last thing i want to do is make this turn out bad, so i'll take back what i said. I'm not going to explain myself or try to argue with you. We ALL need to be abovechildish argueing, right?

 

The only thing i'll mention is that i never tried to be an asshole here until just now, and the way things went down just happened to go that way. Any racist slurs i may had used were completely by accident and my RPs are WAY better now than before.

 

The reason i was told to say that i "found" it was because the bosses stated that many efed people are insecure and that if a "messenger" went and just found it that more people would accept it. For some reason, nomatter how good an idea is, if it was made by someone they don't know, it's considered trash immediately. I don't know if that's true here, but that one guy definantly went in that direction.

 

I'm currently going to almost 2 dozen forums myself about this eList and there seems to be more anger than happyness. These guys just wanted to bring some legitamacy to a ceoncept that seems to be out of control. When there are over 250 efeds claiming to have a "world" title, what's the point of winning one then? You know what i mean? eWrestling NEEDS some sort of elite championships in order for people to realize this. Some people have called it useless, others genius, but to me it was a few months of my life that i really believed in what i was doing. Being here, even for one match, made me want to present this to you personally. I thought you guys would be jumping out of your seats, i mean, you guys have ewrestling titles that cover the entire PLANET, you know? That's all.

 

I hope you will undertsand that.

[Sly 0]

Holy shit, calm the fuck down.

[Toxxic 0]

I see what you mean, in a way. But there's no way to enforce it, and no-one has the authority to try. If you, or anyone else, were to state 'these are the only World Titles that matter in e-wrestling'... why? How can you decide that? In real wrestling it's different, if you've got enough money and the company is big enough you can call it a world title and it'll look fairly legitimate. If you don't and the company isn't, you'll look foolish. We can make our federation as big as we want, we can claim we're bigger than Jesus, we can pretend we're selling out shows in the Tokyo Dome, in Wembley, in the Astrodome... but we're not. We're a bunch of people making shit up around computers for fun, and having some sort of 'official list' of the groups who make the best shit up won't change that.

 

E-fedding is meant to be fun. There are a certain amount of rules that are needed for there to be structure, such as who wins matches. In the SWF, it's done by competitive match-writing. In other feds, it's done by competitive RPing. In the OAOAST, they join hands and sing Kum-Ba-Ya and then agree amongst themselves who will win. Otherwise you'd just have a load of people going "I'm the winner!" "No, I'm the winner!" and so on. So some rules are needed, but these should only be intra-fed rules. Once someone starts going around trying to quantify, rate and, yes, 'legitimise' e-fedding you're missing the point of it. When the SWF started trying to get rated on X-Net, that was a bad idea. They rated things, and it quickly became clear that what we were doing was not what they were looking for. That didn't mean that what we were doing wasn't worthwhile, it just didn't appeal to them.

 

As long as there's enough people here to keep the fed running, and keep it running because they're interested in doing it and they're having fun, I'll say this place is legitimate enough.

[Guest Rex]

I understand what you're saying, and actually i can't tell you that you're wrong cause you're not. It's all a matter of perspective. I remember we had a discussion with the head guys, it may have been the only time the entire group talked on a chat room at once but they told us about how they had collectively won over 20 "world" titles, but because of so many of the efeds dying, only 5 or 6 reigns are actually remembered today.

 

They went through SO much to get those belts, wheather it was a tournament or whatever, and they felt like they had waisted their time when the efed died soon after. They didn't want that to happen to anyone anymore. One side of the elist is about giving handlers the option of going to these long running feds that have the best chance of surviving, since they've already shown their ability to function sucessfully over a huge amount of time.

 

The other thing was that most small efeds have only a dozen guys or so. They thought about the aspect that feds can say that they're from anywhere in the world, but what about the handlers? Another reason for the elist having the time limit deal is because they feel that buy year 5, the fed should have had handlers from almost everywhere in the world and i think that's almost always true. I looked up the definition of world title one day on wikipedia and it said that a world title was a belt that could be defended against anyone in the world at any given time. well, after five years i'd say that those titles probably were defended by american handlers, canadian handlers, british handlers, austrailian handlers and more. That sounds like a world title too me and i think it should be recognized as such.

 

It's like the video game "halo". Some people are happy just playing the computer by themselves, others enjoy it just with friends, but then there are others that feel that the real glory is in multiplayer online, and after a while you may actually be good enough to play in the "halo" tournaments and worldwide conferences and THAT is what the elist recognizes, the world conferences of ewrestling. We never say that the other efeds don't exist or that they are meaningless, because that may not be true, we just say that these guys DESERVE to be recognized for the great world they've done and amazing sucess they've achieved in a hobby that is so touch-and-go it's scary.

[Smartly Pretty 0]

I'm getting the distinct feeling that you have no friends.

[Ace309 0]

This is too mean-spirited to stay open.

 

Guys, we're better than this stupid sniping. Those of you who are unable to hold your tongues should be ashamed of yourselves.

[Sly 0]

I didn't say anything mean spirited. And this isn't closed, either.

[King Cucaracha 0]

In the OAOAST, they join hands and sing Kum-Ba-Ya and then agree amongst themselves who will win.

 

We DO!?

 

Man, how come I've never been invited to any of those get-togethers? I'll have to bring it up around the campfire at the next team meeting.

 

 

Actually, with the amount of ripping off actual wrestling storylines and characters (ie., virtually everything) that goes on over there from all involved, I wouldn't be surprised if someone had actually ripped off the Austin/Angle sing-along word for word already. But that's besides the point.

 

Let the real serious e-motherfuckin-wrestling discussions continue.