WWE General Discussion for August 2007

[JustJoe2k5 0]

Parents who take their young child to a WWE event is pretty irresponsible in the first place...

 

Who do you think the action figures and toy belts are made for? WWE markets to children, so they have just as much of a right to attend the shows as anyone else.

[Mike wanna be 0]

That's why the shows go past 11 at night, because they're so kid-friendly. I'd imagine that's also why PPVs are so reasonably priced for the little tyke allowance, and why there isn't a second of wrestling on any network before 8pm.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

Since shows go to an area maybe twice, thrice a year, parents are going to be willing to take their kids one school night a year to see wrestling. Don't be stupid.

[Mecca 0]

This is what I'm going to tell you, you may enjoy watching the NFL with your young son on TV. But if you take him to a game to watch in person you know before you ever set foot in there what he will hear and what will go on.

 

Same thing applies to wrestling.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

A couple of notes from Meltzer's latest appearance on Figure Four Daily:

 

--The real Raw rating is likely going to be somewhere between a 2.8 and a 3.1

 

--One idea talked about, a lot, in relation to the ‘reset’ is having just one brand

 

 

 

 

[JPopStarKami 0]

A couple of notes from Meltzer's latest appearance on Figure Four Daily:

 

--The real Raw rating is likely going to be somewhere between a 2.8 and a 3.1

 

--One idea talked about, a lot, in relation to the ‘reset’ is having just one brand

 

Reset?

[Vern Gagne 0]

So what happens when you have a relatively healthy roster.

[DrVenkman PhD 0]

A couple of notes from Meltzer's latest appearance on Figure Four Daily:

 

--The real Raw rating is likely going to be somewhere between a 2.8 and a 3.1

 

--One idea talked about, a lot, in relation to the 'reset' is having just one brand

 

Reset?

 

Yes, mentioned earlier in the week by Meltz. Panic is the word in Stamford.

[Golgo 13 0]

That's a bit much, but I would like to see them go back to two brands while consolidating the World and Tag belts and possibly opening up the Women's and rumored X-ish division to both brands. That's just my preference though. A change in the tired look of SD and Raw should also be in order.

[Lil' Bitch 0]

Simple fix. Get rid of ECW altogether.

 

 

 

Are the boos for Hogan kept intact on The Royal Rumble 1992 DVD from the Anthology?

[Nate 0]

A couple of notes from Meltzer's latest appearance on Figure Four Daily:

 

--The real Raw rating is likely going to be somewhere between a 2.8 and a 3.1

 

--One idea talked about, a lot, in relation to the ‘reset’ is having just one brand

 

that would be THE smartest idea WWE has had for quite sometime

 

[Mecca 0]

A couple of notes from Meltzer's latest appearance on Figure Four Daily:

 

--The real Raw rating is likely going to be somewhere between a 2.8 and a 3.1

 

--One idea talked about, a lot, in relation to the ‘reset’ is having just one brand

 

that would be THE smartest idea WWE has had for quite sometime

 

Yea because I wanna watch guys I like get burried........or fired, or not used. I'm sorry they rape Smackdown make it suck and they could give a shit. Raw starts to suck and they feel they have to change everything. If they end the split a lot of guys will be let go...and people who are being built up now will go into being jobbers......

 

Oh well more guys for John Cena and Triple H to beat I guess, that's all that matters.

[cabbageboy 0]

The brands being unified is a bad idea. I think it would work to have travelling champions, which is what the unified champ was supposed to be in the first place. But let's face it, do we really need any of the guys on the WWE roster on TV 3 different times a week? I can halfway tolerate this Cena/Orton crap on Raw, but if they brought it to SD and maybe ECW as well then it will get incredibly horrible.

 

Cause let's face it, the big problem in WWE right now is that some guys are all over TV and PPVs and aren't drawing money enough to justify it. So let's just push them on even MORE TV shall we.

[Mecca 0]

I like how they have this kneejerk reaction........how about they look at things logically....the booking fuckin sucks change it.

[Angle-plex 0]

The brand split should end They don't have enough talent to split now because we end up getting Cade/Murdoch and other unover midcarders suckfests that no one wants to see. Solid storylines with solid characters are what they need, and when they are only using characters they care about maybe they'll work on the storylines. Not to mention there is no champion of the whole federation, thus there is no "Top" guy. They tried it and it didn't take. It's better to realize it was wrong and fix it rather than be stubborn and keep insisting that the fans like it.

[The Amazing Rando 0]

The brand split should end They don't have enough talent to split now because we end up getting Cade/Murdoch and other unover midcarders suckfests that no one wants to see. Solid storylines with solid characters are what they need, and when they are only using characters they care about maybe they'll work on the storylines. Not to mention there is no champion of the whole federation, thus there is no "Top" guy. They tried it and it didn't take. It's better to realize it was wrong and fix it rather than be stubborn and keep insisting that the fans like it.

 

 

I don't care what belts Khali and Johnny boy might have in their possession...Cena is the "Top" guy. And I'd rather them just work on solid storylines and characters and keep the split the way it is. Shoving everyone together on one show will do nothing if the shit isn't compelling.

[Mecca 0]

I am not prepared to deal with 5 hours of Cena a week.....and the characters thing is the WWE's fault. They'd have solid characters if they'd work on building some. Smackdown has done it over and over and over again, it's Raw that has this problem building characters. It's because they feel all they need to do is job the whole roster to Cena, HHH and HBK.

 

Smackdown has a hell of a nice fued going with MVP/Matt Hardy. That would never happen on Raw they're to busy focusing on what Cena is doing to be concerned with anything else on the show, it is the Raw booking at fault here for the lack of solid undercard characters there...hell they stole Smackdowns and still can't do shit. They took Londrick and they're lucky to get on TV now.

[Guest droptoehold]

Merge Smackdown & Raw.

Keep ECW and have the heat tapings be ECW also.

Just add more to the ECW roster. Use guys that will

be guaranteed zero story lines on SD or Raw. Then

move US title & a Tag Team title to ECW.

 

I dont need Cena / HHH / Batista to dominate 5 hours

of television, thats the only reason i keep ECW.

 

Either way what they have isnt working. I wouldn't blame

the "Brands" i would blame the quality of the product.

Try resetting the approach to "creative" that might be a

bit more effective.

[justcoz 0]

Make ECW the rumored X Division brand and hire Heyman back to book it since it's pretty much developmental now. Make Heat a web only ECW EXTRA type deal to get the roster more exposure.

 

Talk USA into allowing a WWE Classics show each night at midnight or at least the hour leading into Raw. This would compensate for not doing a third hour of Raw and would bring in old-time fans that aren't into the current product. It's also a nice plug for WWE 24/7 subscriptions. They can just show certain matches or clips from that month's 24/7 selection.

 

I'm all for combining Raw and Smackdown rosters. Both shows suffer from their limited rosters and injuries are too consistent and screw up brand plans too much. Go back to one unified world champion. If the shows aren't going to be stylistically different (ie one 'wrestling' show and the other 'entertainment') there is no reason for the rosters to be separated. Just don't fill both shows up with the same guys every week. If Shelton/Haas don't make Raw - they can have a match on Smackdown. That type of thing.

[Enigma 0]

SANTINO MARELLA POSSIBLY INJURED AT HOUSE SHOW

 

During the Santino Marella/Umaga match at tonight's Wheeling, WV house show, Marella appeared to be injured after taking Umaga's spinning side slam. Referee Doan threw up the 'X' immediately and Umaga quickly went for the Spike for the victory. Marella appeared to favor his shoulder or collarbone and was helped to the back alongside the trainer. The bump didn't look pretty.

 

 

[veseo 0]

Just when he was possibly up to being interesting characted. Hope he's okay and goes to OVW after the injury.

[Chazz 0]

A couple of notes from Meltzer's latest appearance on Figure Four Daily:

 

--The real Raw rating is likely going to be somewhere between a 2.8 and a 3.1

 

--One idea talked about, a lot, in relation to the 'reset' is having just one brand

 

Reset?

 

Yes, mentioned earlier in the week by Meltz. Panic is the word in Stamford.

 

I for one am glad they are panicing, as they should be. Besides, Vince is usually at his best when his back is to the wall.

[UseTheSledgehammerUh 0]

The day the shitty WWE "Brand Extension" ends I have a parade. Any argument for it ends at "3 World Title Belt Defenses Every PPV".

[Fökai 0]

The idea of a traveling Undisputed Champion was one of the positives of the brand extension in the first place. They should go back to five titles (WWE, I.C., Tag, Womens' Title, and some form of a TV title) through unification matches and make all of them traveling champions. The only guy that would need to be at every taping would be the WWE champion, but he obviously doesn't have to work a match each time. The remaining cruisers can move to the TV or Tag division, which is better served for them anyway. Everyone else will be unaffected.

 

Keep the brand split. I never thought I'd say that.

[Danville_Wrestling 0]

Yet what good is the brand split if they take the stars they've created on one brand, move them after 1-2 years, and then just proceed to job them out to their established guys? It seems that any benefits from the brand split are being negated because of that.

 

I definitely believe ending the brand split would clear up the world title picture. If the brand split won't end then I agree with many posters here that there should be a "traveling champion." That idea didn't come off that badly before Brock became Smackdown! exclusive.

 

One division that would definitely benefit from the end of a brand split though are the tag belts. I find that the tag divisions on each of the shows are REALLY lacking (moreso on RAW). Ending the split, or at least just having the tag belts become exclusive to one brand, would definitely clear up that picture.

 

On a sidenote, a potential 2.8 rating is still awful.

[veseo 0]

Having Cena as only ME champ? No, thanks.

[EVIL~! alkeiper 0]

The real purpose of the brand split is to run split house shows. It was different in the days of television tapings when you only needed to get everyone together once a month. Nowadays it makes things easier on the talent.

[cabbageboy 0]

Yeah I have to admit if I'm a top level Raw guy then I wouldn't care to work all the various SD shows in addition to the current shows.

 

What I fear about a newly combined roster is who exactly is going to book this thing? It better fucking not be Brian Gewirtz, or this thing will be dead in the water before it starts. I think that is the problem with the brand extension since its inception. There has never been a time when both shows were good at the same time. In 2002-03 SD was better and Raw sucked. In 2004 both shows had a brief time when both were pretty solid, but then SD put the belt on JBL and that show went to hell (and Raw soon followed with the Orton push from hell). And so on. But really has there ever been a time when both shows were both of high quality?

[Kahran Ramsus 0]

What I fear about a newly combined roster is who exactly is going to book this thing? It better fucking not be Brian Gewirtz, or this thing will be dead in the water before it starts.

 

Exactly. Much like the draft, ending the split would not only do nothing to resolve the problem (the RAW creative team) but actually spread it.

 

Meanwhile, the top guys now work twice as much at the same time the company is dealing with numerous injuries and the US Congress breathing down their necks. This is just a disaster waiting to happen if they go through with it.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

But it's not like the top guys has to wrestle EVERY show. If they booked it smart, they'd have the upper midcarders/midcarders do most of the wrestling while the top guys have interviews or in-ring segments that aren't matches.