UseTheSledgehammerUh 0 Report post Posted September 21, 2007 Tonight was a really good win for the Phillies, GREAT JOB by the bullpen, altho Kane Davis' one inning was helped by bullshit umpire calls, oh well Nats! Even Myers delivers! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted September 21, 2007 Kevin Gregg can kiss my ass, thanks for giving the Mets a game. What an awful job by Willie Randolph tonight, BTW, blown double-switches and Sosa over Wagner? Wagner's not even in the bullpen, so something is amiss. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
strummer 0 Report post Posted September 21, 2007 Marlins tie it winning run on third Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYU 0 Report post Posted September 21, 2007 How fucking pathetic. That half inning showcased everything wrong with the Mets that has led them to their current predicament. David Wright making yet another extremely costly throwing error? Check. The bullpen IMPLODING by giving up a strong three innning lead? Check. Willie Randolph making extremely questionable moves with his bullpen? Check. That was literally sickening. The Mets have no business losing this game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingPK 0 Report post Posted September 21, 2007 We're doing another MLB awards ballot this year, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYU 0 Report post Posted September 21, 2007 Oooh. And I would be mistaken if I didn't call out Reyes for his terrible and lethargic hitting tonight. It looks like he doesn't even know what to do with that bat anymore. What happened to the Reyes who knew how to draw walks instead of simply swinging the bat with a half-assed attitude? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted September 21, 2007 We're doing another MLB awards ballot this year, right? Absolutely. Look for it the day the season ends, or thereabouts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted September 21, 2007 I think it's about over for Milwaukee. This isn't the best time for stumbling around the outfield like characters on a James Joyce sidewalk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted September 21, 2007 OH NOES THE SKY IS FALLING IN NEW YORK! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted September 21, 2007 I'm still not banking on the Phils until they actually lead. It's unbelievable though that the easiest route to the playoffs now resides in the N.L. East. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYU 0 Report post Posted September 21, 2007 This was crushing. It really was. The Mets are going to give me an ulcer, I swear. Regardless of where they finish at the end of the season, the Mets NEED to get pitching this offseason. Starting pitching, relief pitching. Do it through Free Agency, trades, call-ups from the minors, whatever. The bullpen is atrocious. Beyond atrocious and it's been so since the beginning of the season. The starting pitching has been startingly shaky too over the past few months. Maine, Glavine, El Duque...they've all been more than shaky and susceptible to giving up important leads at the worst of times. The Mets do not need hitters. They have that covered. This team has HORRID bullpen pitching and it really needs to be patched up. And for the love of Christ, somebody give David Wright a refresher course in how to throw a fucking ground ball to first base! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted September 21, 2007 Somewhere, Steve J. Rogers is taking a baseball bat to his living room. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted September 21, 2007 Somewhere, Steve J. Rogers is taking a baseball bat to his living room. But he said he would see us in Spring Training. Are you really suggesting he didn't mean that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vivalaultra 0 Report post Posted September 21, 2007 The Astros are thumping the Cardinals 18-1. Rookie catcher J.R. Towles has 8 RBI on the nite, second most in the majors this season after Garrett Anderson's 10 RBI a few months ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UseTheSledgehammerUh 0 Report post Posted September 21, 2007 Way to go Mets! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted September 21, 2007 The Astros are thumping the Cardinals 18-1. Rookie catcher J.R. Towles has 8 RBI on the nite, second most in the majors this season after Garrett Anderson's 10 RBI a few months ago. Wasn't that just a couple of weeks ago? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richard 0 Report post Posted September 21, 2007 Why won't the Padres lose? Jesus f'n christ. They're good... and they're better than the Phillies. Well to be fair, the Giants and Pirates both suck ass. They'll surely lose a few to the Rockies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Gym Class Fallout Report post Posted September 21, 2007 Pirates are focusing all their effort on beating the Cubs. Kinda sad, really. What's sadder still is that Duke and Gorzelanny might get it done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted September 21, 2007 Cubs are making the playoffs, Czech. Deal with it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Gym Class Fallout Report post Posted September 21, 2007 NL Central '07: the race to deny your team's success! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted September 21, 2007 Speaking of the Cubs, Richard Justice of the Houston Chronicle thinks the World Series will be Cubs vs Yankees. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted September 21, 2007 The Astros are thumping the Cardinals 18-1. Rookie catcher J.R. Towles has 8 RBI on the nite, second most in the majors this season after Garrett Anderson's 10 RBI a few months ago. Wasn't that just a couple of weeks ago? About a month ago, during that epic Yankee beatdown that apparently woke the beast. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted September 21, 2007 NL Central '07: the race to deny your team's success! I swear, just watch the NL Central winner make it to the WS (again), just to fuck with us (again) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheech Tremendous 0 Report post Posted September 21, 2007 Speaking of the Cubs, Richard Justice of the Houston Chronicle thinks the World Series will be Cubs vs Yankees. Speaking of idiots, Richard Justice is one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheech Tremendous 0 Report post Posted September 21, 2007 Non-Sox fans can feel free skip. Dear Everyone North of New Haven: Shut the hell up. Nate’s take on Red Sox Nation’s reaction to Eric Gagne’s recent performances is spot on, but I want to extend the notion to the entirety of Red Sox fandom. This team had its playoff spot locked up three months ago, has run its business over the last three weeks with that in mind, and for some reason, there’s a notion afoot that their not winning the division would be some kind of disaster. It wouldn’t be. In fact, it wouldn’t matter at all, and if there’s any organization or fan base that should understand this, it’s the Red Sox. Everywhere you turn, there are comparisons to 1978, which has about as much relevance to this season as the Lincoln/Douglas debates do to the current election cycle. In 1978, the Red Sox were caught by the Yankees for a division title and a postseason spot, back when the two were one and the same. That those two are not the same in 2007, and in fact, that the latter is more important than the former, should be obvious, but is being obscured by the wailing, gnashing of teeth and rending of garments. No, in the eight-team-playoff era, it really doesn’t matter how you get in the tournament, just that you do. The 2006 World Series was contested by teams that went 12-17 after August 31, one of which blew its division–but not its playoff spot–on the last three days of the season by being swept at home by the worst team in the league. The 2005 White Sox disappeared for six weeks in August and September before winning their title. The 2000 Yankees closed 13-20 before making their World Championship run. Seven of the last ten World Series teams started the postseason as a #3 or #4 seed in their leagues. Then there was the 2004 Red Sox. If you’re one of the people up in arms about the possibility that the Sox might not win the division, let me ask you: does a division title mean more than a World Championship? Or for that matter, does a division title mean more than a victory in a best-of-seven series against the team that beat you over 162 games? I ask because, and it’s possible I missed this chapter in Mind Game, I don’t recall Red Sox fans walking around with hangdog looks in late October of ‘04, unable to enjoy the World Series victory because they’d advanced to the playoffs as the wild card. Perhaps the crushing disappointment of missing out on an AL East championship tainted all that came after, leaving a bitter taste in the mouths of many New Englanders. Perhaps Murph and Sully have closets full of T-shirts that read, “2004 World Champions* *(but we know we didn’t belong)”. Or maybe not. Think about 2004 for a second. I saw, read or heard any number of people, over the last couple of days, talk about the “psychological damage” that would result if the Red Sox didn’t win the division. There may have been one guy who looked like Freida from “Peanuts” involved. I call bull****. What is more relevant to the guys in the Red Sox clubhouse? The experience of winning the World Series as the wild-card team in 2004, or the experience of a team 29 years ago, when many members of that clubhouse weren’t even born? I mean, really…walk into the Red Sox clubhouse, ask every player who Mike Torrez is and count the ones who know. I’ll set the line at 7 1/2 and bet the under all day. As fans, and certainly as bored media desperate for a story, we create this idea that organizational history matters to the players on the field. In fact, it doesn’t. David Ortiz isn’t going about his business sweating because the guys who occupied that clubhouse almost 30 years ago blew a big lead. Curt Schilling, whatever you may think of him, is smart enough to know that the 1978 Red Sox don’t mean a thing to the 2007 Red Sox. What, you think Manny Ramirez is somehow affected by all of this? The Red Sox regular-season record matters for another ten days. After that, they and seven other teams will start a new season at 0-0, and all that will matter is winning three games before losing three. I didn’t build this system, and I certainly wouldn’t have if given the power, but that’s the way it works now. The regular season is the truest test of a team’s strength. Winning a division title should mean more than it does. Since 1995, however, baseball’s caretakers, baseball’s media and baseball’s fans have emphasized the postseason to a far greater extent than before, and because of that, I can say in no uncertain terms that winning a division title versus making the postseason as a wild card is a meaningless distinction. So like I said….shut the hell up. You’re in, and your next relevant game will be October 3 or October 4 or November 16 or whenever the hell they pushed the Division Series back to for TV. Everything between now and then is an extended exhibition, and the Red Sox are acting accordingly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boon 0 Report post Posted September 21, 2007 1978 means nothing, and 2004 means nothing. On September 21, 2007, I see a team with a struggling bullpen, questionable starters, injured sluggers and a terrible bench. I agree - they need to focus on fixing what they can and get ready for October. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Failed Bridge 0 Report post Posted September 21, 2007 I don't see a terrible bench...I mean at this juncture you gotta have Ellsbury on the playoff roster and perhaps even starting in CF. That turns Crisp into your 2007 Dave Roberts. Kielty gives the team about what Kapler did too. If Gagne is healthy then he's going to be fine in the end. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Gym Class Fallout Report post Posted September 21, 2007 Gonna be one of those wind-blowing-out days at Wrigley, huh. Strap in. Warm + day game + wind blowing out hard = like a 14-12 final score. EDIT: Cubs lead 12-7 in the bottom of the 6th. Inching closer to that 14-12 prediction. Here's the line thus far 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E PITTSBURGH 1 1 5 0 0 0 X X X 07 09 2 CHIC. CUBS 4 1 2 0 0 5 X X X 12 14 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve J. Rogers 0 Report post Posted September 21, 2007 Kevin Gregg can kiss my ass, thanks for giving the Mets a game. What an awful job by Willie Randolph tonight, BTW, blown double-switches and Sosa over Wagner? Wagner's not even in the bullpen, so something is amiss. Apparantly back spasms. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted September 21, 2007 Oh man, I can't believe Marquis is the guy we have to rely on if Game 163 is necessary. But at least they won and everyone should watch the replays for Ramirez' BOMB out of Wrigley. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
