Darthtiki 0 Report post Posted September 26, 2007 Something Czech hit on in his post about the passing of Bill Wirtz. Just who are the worst owners in sports, how do they rank and what is the criteria for bestowing such an (dis)honor. I nominate either Philip Anschutz or Frank McCourt to start. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheech Tremendous 0 Report post Posted September 26, 2007 David Glass Peter Angelos Don Sterling Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smues Report post Posted September 26, 2007 Jeffrey Loria pretty much has to be #1. Edit: Well current #1, all time I dunno, but he's gotta be on the list. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darthtiki 0 Report post Posted September 26, 2007 For sake of the thread let's stick with current Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Lushus 0 Report post Posted September 26, 2007 Ralph Wilson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Gym Class Fallout Report post Posted September 26, 2007 Wirtz isn't even in the ground yet, so let's put him at #0 for now or something. Douchebag emeritus. #1 has to be Jeffrey Loria - he killed baseball in Montreal, then he killed baseball in Miami, and somehow, he won a world championship in between. Few people get to ruin two baseball clubs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DerangedHermit 0 Report post Posted September 26, 2007 Jeffrey Loria, Peter Angelos, David Glass, William Clay Ford Sr., and Peter Karmanos. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted September 26, 2007 Jeffrey Loria Peter Angelos Bill Bidwell Jeremy Jacobs Charles Wang Donald Sterling Daniel Snyder Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Gym Class Fallout Report post Posted September 26, 2007 I'm torn on where Jerry Reinsdorf goes. On one hand, he brought six world championships to Chicago and another world championship to its slum. However, consider putting the White Sox on subscription UHF threatening to move the White Sox to St. Petersburg and subsequently squeezing New Comiskey Park out of the state taxpayers' balls Playing a large part in the strike The White Flag trade Dissembling the Chicago Bulls General cheapness in most years I don't know. It's tough. He's not one of the all-time worst, but he seems like a pretty bad dude, and the too-close-for-comfort friendship with Bud Selig makes me a little wary as the Cubs go up for sale. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mik 0 Report post Posted September 26, 2007 Jeff Loria. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted September 26, 2007 The only good thing about him owning the Os over the last 10 years is that he has a hardon for players of Greek descent like himself and that landed us Nick Markakis, the best offensive player (and 2nd best overall to Bedard) on the Os roster right now. Its too bad Greece doesnt churn out that many great baseball players.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Lushus 0 Report post Posted September 26, 2007 the discussion begins and ends with James Dolan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted September 26, 2007 Agreed on Ralph Wilson. He hires a first time GM who's in his 80s...won't ever pay for a decent coach...and has done NOTHING to help insure the future of the franchise in Buffalo. Thanks Mr. Wilson! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawk 34 0 Report post Posted September 26, 2007 Don't forget Mike Brown. His desire to shit on his father's legacy led to the worst run NFL franchise of the 1990's. He slightly redeemed himself for the Marvin Lewis hire but his lack of action against the constant criminal chaos his franchise went through in the span of 18 months only shows how ineffective he is as a owner/manager. However, nobody presently alive can touch Loria. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike wanna be 0 Report post Posted September 26, 2007 Agreed on Ralph Wilson. He hires a first time GM who's in his 80s...won't ever pay for a decent coach...and has done NOTHING to help insure the future of the franchise in Buffalo. Thanks Mr. Wilson! Let's not forget renaming the stadium after himself instead of selling the rights and actually making the team some money. Or the Rob Johnson disgrace. Or the subsequent Wade Phillips scapegoating. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheech Tremendous 0 Report post Posted September 26, 2007 So we've easily identified the worst owners in sports. Who are the best? I'll nominate the following: George Steinbrenner John Henry Jerry Jones Paul Allen Robert Kraft Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted September 26, 2007 Steinbrenner? Didn't dude get suspended/banned from the league and the day to day operations of the Yankees in the 80s? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted September 26, 2007 Until recently, Jerry Buss would find his way into that best owners list. Not now. As for worst, I can't believe nobody mentioned Al Davis. The guy held up two cities for cash, and he'll be doing the same thing AGAIN to Oakland in a few years. The guy is responsible for getting the NFL out of Los Angeles and I hope he dies a horrible death. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheech Tremendous 0 Report post Posted September 26, 2007 Steinbrenner? Didn't dude get suspended/banned from the league and the day to day operations of the Yankees in the 80s? He was suspended from 1990 to 1993 for paying someone to try to find dirt on Dave Winfield. I sure as hell wouldn't want to work for the guy, but a fan couldn't ask for a better owner. He spends money on the team, fields a winner, hires competent front office people and shows respect for the team's history. What more could you want? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheech Tremendous 0 Report post Posted September 26, 2007 Until recently, Jerry Buss would find his way into that best owners list. Not now. As for worst, I can't believe nobody mentioned Al Davis. The guy held up two cities for cash, and he'll be doing the same thing AGAIN to Oakland in a few years. The guy is responsible for getting the NFL out of Los Angeles and I hope he dies a horrible death. I was on the fence with Al Davis. He's done some horrible things, but he's always shown a commitment to putting a winner on the field. I think there have been enough positives that he is disqualified from the worst list. In my opinion, the worst list is made for the guys who won't spend money on the team, are confrontational with local fans and show little regard for putting a winner on the field. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Niggardly King 0 Report post Posted September 26, 2007 That woman who owns the Rams Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vampiro69 0 Report post Posted September 26, 2007 I have to say the Bidwells in Arizona are strong contenders for this title. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted September 26, 2007 That woman who owns the Rams The same woman who won a Super Bowl and made another appearance with the Greatest Show on Turf? (Her name is Georgia Frontiere btw) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted September 26, 2007 Not a person, but Tribune Co. has been pretty terrible as owner of the Cubs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheech Tremendous 0 Report post Posted September 26, 2007 How do we feel about Tom Benson? Nothing like trying to move your team while the city is suffering from one of the worst natural disasters in American history. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Gym Class Fallout Report post Posted September 26, 2007 Not a person, but Tribune Co. has been pretty terrible as owner of the Cubs. No they haven't. They haven't been good, but we're talking about the worst of the worst here, and they're not that bad. Consider committing to Wrigley Field rather than moving, (at one time) a full nationally televised schedule which has further established the Cubs as one of baseball's most popular teams, and at times, the desire to spend money on payroll. The guys running the team have been idiots, but the Tribune itself has done a fair job with the Cubs. The same woman who won a Super Bowl and made another appearance with the Greatest Show on Turf? (Her name is Georgia Frontiere btw) I don't think Frontiere is one of the worst, but having your team win a championship doesn't absolve you from being a shitty team owner. I mean, we're all agreed on Loria here, aren't we? Speaking of the LA Rams, if you do any reading on the whole Carroll Rosenbloom drowning thing, it's some really sketchy stuff. Al Davis is one of the best owners in sports. Hate not. I love that guy. As far as the best, I'm really impressed with what Mark Attanasio has done with the Brewers already. He's going about it the right way. However, I find his voice creepy. Also, to preemptively dispel the myth, Bud Selig was a good owner. It was after he became commissioner that the Brewers went to shit. He was a crazy tyrannical win-at-all-costs type when he was just the owner of the Brewers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
treble 0 Report post Posted September 26, 2007 So we've easily identified the worst owners in sports. Who are the best? I'll nominate the following: George Steinbrenner John Henry Jerry Jones Paul Allen Robert Kraft Eugene Melnyk Mike Ilitch Arte Moreno Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve J. Rogers 0 Report post Posted September 26, 2007 Steinbrenner? Didn't dude get suspended/banned from the league and the day to day operations of the Yankees in the 80s? He was suspended from 1990 to 1993 for paying someone to try to find dirt on Dave Winfield. I sure as hell wouldn't want to work for the guy, but a fan couldn't ask for a better owner. He spends money on the team, fields a winner, hires competent front office people and shows respect for the team's history. What more could you want? To most Yankee haters, and even Yankee fans (don't forget he pretty much ruined the Yanks from 82 to his suspension because he pretty much had free reign and didn't really have a soild baseball guy telling him no) he probably should be listed among the worse. -Being the reason for "The Evil Empire" -Being a liar, cheater, and all around egotistical piece of turd -Don't forget he was suspended in the 70s for using funds to illegaly fund Nixon's campaign or something like that -Essentially he is the Vince McMahon...check that, Mr. McMahon (he's more like the character version of Vince than the real Vince) of MLB Believe me, there will be many people who will be overjoyed and poping champange bottles when he finally passes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted September 26, 2007 So we've easily identified the worst owners in sports. Who are the best? I'll nominate the following: George Steinbrenner John Henry Jerry Jones Paul Allen Robert Kraft Do you mean Paul Allen - Trailblazers owner or Paul Allen - Seahawks owner? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JaMarcus Russell's #1 Caucasian Fan 0 Report post Posted September 27, 2007 Until recently, Jerry Buss would find his way into that best owners list. Not now. As for worst, I can't believe nobody mentioned Al Davis. The guy held up two cities for cash, and he'll be doing the same thing AGAIN to Oakland in a few years. The guy is responsible for getting the NFL out of Los Angeles and I hope he dies a horrible death. Al Davis history with the Raiders automatically disquailfies him from the worst owner ever. Aside from 3 Super Bowl wins, numerous division titles and numerous playoff apperances. At one time the Raiders were the winningest team is pro football. Al Davis also hired the first Latino and African American head coaches in NFL history (Art Shell and Tom Flores). I mean the man is pretty is the face of the Raider francise. Now I know the Raiders are ass now but overall Al Davis was at one the point one the best owners in football. But Im a diehard Raider fan so what do I know! As for the topic. I don't its fair that people like Jerry Buss, Frank McCourt or Jerry Reinsdorf are considered bad owners. All have had sucess with their respective teams. Buss and Reinsdorf and suffered through bad seasons, but does that make them bad? Is Bob Kraft a bad owner because the Pats had some tough times in the past? Maybe unpopular at times, but not bad by any means. To me a bad owner is a person that doesnt invest in the team and has no interest in winning to me these are the worst of the worst: MLB: Jeffery Loria-Marlins Peter Angelos-Orioles Bud Selig when he owned the Brewers NFL- The Brown Family- Still one of the worst but made some strides this decade. Ralph Wilson Bill Bidwell NBA The investors who own the Atlanta Hawks- Atlanta Spirt Donald K. Sterling Seattle Sonics ownership- Professional Basketball Club NHL- Bill Witrz Phillip Ansultz James Dolan The Best: NFL Bob Kraft Dan Rooney Jerry Jones- meandering and nosey, but put together a winning team in the 90s and is building one now. NBA- Mark Cuban Jerry Buss until 2004 MLB- John Henry George Steinbrenner Arte Moreno NHL- Since the lockout I couldnt really say. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
