Questions to be answered by the next person to post in the thread

[Guest]

Jerry West, John Stockton, Bob Cousy, Pete Maravich and Larry Bird, in no order. Let the question continue.

[Guest Blue Man Czech]

John Stockton

Rick Barry

Larry Bird

Steve Nash

Luc Longley, lol

 

[Guest Vitamin X]

Also, Greg Ostertag.

[Guest Blue Man Czech]

Also, cocks.

[CanadianGuitarist 0]

Hmm. Good question.

 

Definite current or future: Vijay Singh, Mike Weir, Mike Gartner, Dave Andreychuk, Grant Fuhr, Pat Lafontaine.

 

Bubble: John Daly, Joe Nieuwendyk, Peter Bondra, Roy Halladay, Johan Santana, Frank Thomas, Alex Mogilny.

 

 

 

 

Since many of my comments have involved golf(and I can, to some degree, see why people find that boring) - is there one sport you just can't get into or don't understand the following of (and likely never will). Czech is ineligible to answer this question.

[Guest Blue Man Czech]

hahahaha fuck you

[Guest Tzar Lysergic]

Soccer is my knee jerk reaction, but I have to say NASCAR. That shit's just retarded crap for dumbasses with no teeth, and corporate sponsors that yen for that demographic.

 

Do you enjoy football games with horrendous weather conditions more than games played in 70 degrees at sunset?

[Guest Vitamin X]

As a fellow NFC North fan, I have to say fuck yeah.

[Red Baron 0]

I love when the elements are a factor. A few friends of mine in 02/03 NFL season went to Miami/Buffalo in December. It was about 40 degrees outside and overcast at kickoff. They go to get beer and shit at halftime and come back out during a white out. I like the 8-0 Browns/Bills game earlier this year. It makes what football is all about.

 

And I'm not surprised at what you guys said about my NFL attendence comment. Sure the record of attendance is going up, but there are quite a few teams out there struggling to survive.

 

As a game, the CFL is more exciting to watch than an NFL game. Agree or Disagree?

[Guest Vitamin X]

I think the few teams out there struggling to survive has more to do with the fact that the owners are constantly pushing for new stadiums in places where they don't really need/want them, like Minnesota. It has nothing to do with attendance.

[Maztinho 0]

Neither, the Arena League is more consistently exciting than both, but so as to actually answer the question I'll disagree after that Superbowl performance we just saw.

 

Name your favorite player that wasn't considered a "great" and why?

[JJ Johnson 0]

Greg Ostertag, just because in basketball games, he was always announced as Greg! OOOOOOOOSTERTAAAAAAAG! When you're at the age where you ask your cousins how many points rebounds are worth, that shit's a rallying cry.

 

I'll let the question continue because I love to hear about names from the past that nobody will remember and are kind of a generational running joke.

Edited February 4, 2008 by JJ Johnson

[Red Baron 0]

Andre "Red Light" Racicot. If you follow hockey and understand what "Red Light" means in hockey sense there is a reason why I can like him now.

 

 

[Guest Blue Man Czech]

Kyle Orton

[CanadianGuitarist 0]

Brian Mullen, because that was my name for about 3 years, and he's from Hell's Kitchen, which was an awesome place name before the reality show. Kelly Gruber, Roberto Alomar, and Patrick Roy were always my favourites growing up, but none of those answers are any fun....maybe Gruber.

[King Kamala 0]

Walter McCarty. He kind of sucked but I can think of at least three or four cases where hit a huge shot in the fourth quarter during his stint with The Celtics. He's the homeless man's Robert Horry.

[Slayer 0]

In the wake of most people outside of New England rooting for the Giants yesterday, in combination with the similarity of people rooting for the Pats against the Rams years ago and in general people's tendency to root for the underdog/against the dominant team, has there been a "lovable juggernaut" who powered their way through a season and got a significant number of people outside their fanbase (excluding rival fans) to root for them?

[Guest]

Probably the Chicago Bulls. In football, hell no. Maybe Aikman's Cowboys.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

Probably the Chicago Bulls. In football, hell no. Maybe Aikman's Cowboys.

 

Pretty sure people hated the Bulls. Hell I hated them and I am a Chicago native.

[Cheech Tremendous 0]

Probably the Chicago Bulls. In football, hell no. Maybe Aikman's Cowboys.

 

Pretty sure people hated the Bulls. Hell I hated them and I am a Chicago native.

 

 

I always thought that the '80s 49ers, '90s Bulls and early '00s Pats (not this year's team) were all universally liked. Sure there are always dissenters in a large group, but my pereception was these teams were cheered even when they were steamrolling their competition. Perhaps that's just the perception I gained from the people I was surrounded by at the time.

 

EDIT: And just to expand on this, I can't remember any sports team in my entire lifetime being more loved than the Bulls in the 90s. I'm not sure why Walkin Dude feels differently. As a kid growing up playing basketball during that era, the spectre of Jordan was inescapable.

[King Kamala 0]

As someone who grew up in the mid-late 90s, everybody in my age group loved the Bulls. They were easily the most popular team at my elementary school and I grew up in Maine. Hell, I was usually the only Celtics fan in my class (Even then the Bulls were a close 2nd). In fact, I don't remember running across a Celtics fan my own age until they made the huge playoff run to the Eastern Conference Finals in '02. But I digress.

 

 

Speaking of the mid 90s Boston Celtics, what was the worst season you've experienced as a fan for your favorite team(s)?

[Guest Vitamin X]

2005 Green Bay Packers going 4-12. Also, pretty much my entire time as a Rockies fan up until this past season. And they might not string together another run like that again, either, so it'll be hard to get back into baseball if they stink again.

[CanadianGuitarist 0]

Yeah, I had never heard of anyone not liking the Bulls, either. Maybe, I don't know.

 

 

Dec. 2, 1995 was the lowest point of my life as a Habs fan(the Roy incident), although January 2003 is a close second (for the first time in nearly 70 years, the Habs were in last of the league - and well on their way to missing the playoffs for three straight seasons, which also hadn't happened in nearly 70 years).

 

As a Raiders fan though, re-ask me that question in a few years.

 

 

I'll use a golf analogy, as that's what the discussion was, but I'll try and parlay it into a more universal question. As my dad and I learned watching golf yesterday, Jack Nickalus ran-up in 19 professional majors. He won 18. He played four majors a year for roughly 25 years, so 100 majors. If after 100 years, the Yankees had lost in the World Series 22 or 23 times, in addition to the 26 wins, is that an impressive feat, a detrimental feat, or kinda meaningless? The baseball analogy might not hold water entirely, but trying to put it into perspective.

[Guest]

Speaking of the mid 90s Boston Celtics, what was the worst season you've experienced as a fan for your favorite team(s)?

Most people would say that the 04-05 season in which the Lakers missed the playoffs when Rudy T stepped down was the worst, but I'd say the worst was when Kobe airballed four 3-pointers against the Jazz in the playoffs in 1997. I don't really think the Rudy T season was that bad, because I had expected all along that the Lakers were going to be terrible. Personally, I'm not really that affected by my teams bad seasons when I expect them to happen in the first place. The worst for me is when I expect great things and get absolutely nothing, or extreme disappointment. The 99 season was pretty bad too. I never thought the Lakers would make it over the hump and win a title after that.

 

All in all, it says a lot when your team's worst record in your lifetime is just 33-49. My dad hated that team more than anything, but I don't remember it all that much. I liked Nick Van Exel and Big Game James, so as a kid, I was happy.

 

For the Dodgers, the 2005 season was awful. After a division title, I expected them to compete. But they didn't, and only won 71 games.

 

For USC basketball, the worst feeling was when Rick fat fuck Majerus took the job for a few days and quit. I thought that would be the best guy we could get, but we got Tim Floyd. That worked out well, although that season was a total abomination. Before Pete Carroll, USC football was in the shitter for a bit, so he pretty much saved the program. There were a lot of bad seasons before he took the job.

 

The LA Kings are one of the worst run franchises in professional sport. There's really not much to say other than that.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

I guess I must be in the minority. All I remember is I didn't like the Bulls and I knew a contingent in Chicago who didn't either, and I probably just assumed that if there was that contingent in Chicago, there would be a larger percentage of fans who would hate the Bulls for the preferential treatment of Jordan or stuff like that. I must have underestimated the love for them, I guess.

[Maztinho 0]

I guess I must be in the minority. All I remember is I didn't like the Bulls and I knew a contingent in Chicago who didn't either, and I probably just assumed that if there was that contingent in Chicago, there would be a larger percentage of fans who would hate the Bulls for the preferential treatment of Jordan or stuff like that. I must have underestimated the love for them, I guess.

 

I hated the Bulls.

 

Stupid Bulls.

 

Beating my Jazz twice.

 

When I was in Brazil I hated the superpower soccer team that's colors where red and black because of the Bulls.

[bob_barron 0]

2005 Green Bay Packers going 4-12. Also, pretty much my entire time as a Rockies fan up until this past season. And they might not string together another run like that again, either, so it'll be hard to get back into baseball if they stink again.

 

I thought you were a Marlins fan.

 

For me, the worst Saints season 3-13 in 2005. The whole season was a nightmare.

 

Living in NY, most everyone hated the Bulls. There was this one kid who liked the Bulls. I wanted to punch him in the face

[sfaJack 0]

The entire Chan Gailey/Dave Campo eras, beginning with the home playoff loss to the fucking Arizona Cardinals.

 

As for the Cubs, well, there's no real need to explain. 2003 was easily the worst though--the highest of highs after Game 4 of the NLCS to the lowest of lows after Game 7 four days later.

[Guest Blue Man Czech]

I guess I must be in the minority. All I remember is I didn't like the Bulls and I knew a contingent in Chicago who didn't either, and I probably just assumed that if there was that contingent in Chicago, there would be a larger percentage of fans who would hate the Bulls for the preferential treatment of Jordan or stuff like that. I must have underestimated the love for them, I guess.

Which contingent was that? I didn't know a soul who wasn't a Bulls fan. Who did you like as a kid? The Heat? Everyone hated the Jerrys, naturally, but we all loved Michael and Scottie.

 

The '80s Niners, yeah, they were universally respected, I believe (I wasn't there), but I must've missed America gladly cheering on the Patriots the last few years. I certainly didn't feel Patriot Fever out here in the midwest back in 2003-2005, or even when they broke out in 2001. Most people I knew were rooting for the Rams that year because it was fun to watch them.

 

Back to the Walsh 49ers, I would attribute their comparative lack of backlash to two things: S.F. sports fans not being regarded as particularly irritating folk (though their blind support of Roid Monkey has sour[dough]ed me on some of them), and the lack of a mainstream 24-hour sports news cycle emanating from the East Coast. Were that dynasty to happen right now with the Booyah Network at its current saturation level, I think there'd be more 49er backlash, though they wouldn't have made it as hard on us as they did with the Patriots.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

Orlando actually. And there was a contingent in Chicagoland that resented how the Bulls basically turned the whole league into the Michael Jordan show.