Darth Vader 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2008 This is a new weekly thread, we pick something to talk about and roll with it. First ever on this segment is one of the more forgoten about stables in the history of WWF X-Factor. Feel free to discuss your highs and lows of this stable,. Wheather it be the Uncle Cracker theme music or whatever, genuflect on your favorite or least favorite aspects of X FACTOR!!!!!!! I thought that it was just something to give HHH's buddy Sean Waltman something to do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Epic Reine 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2008 They definatley had the most effeminate entrance ever in wrestling, that's for sure. Soft rock music with purple lights? Not to mention two completley heatless members in Justin Credible and Albert. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth Vader 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2008 2!! heatless memebers?? Are you saying X-Pac got heat? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diamonddust 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2008 God, I hated their music. Hated, hated, hated it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Kamala 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2008 I'd like to comment on this thread but I don't want my 5000th post to be about X-Factor. Shit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth Vader 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2008 I would say that the peak of X-Factor was when they beat Grandmaster SexAy and Steve Blackman in a dark match at WM 17, the greatest Wrestlemania of all time! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheech Tremendous 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2008 2!! heatless memebers?? Are you saying X-Pac got heat? He got X-Pac heat. That's a type of heat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cabbageboy 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2008 What does it say about this faction that it was led by X-Pac and the name was also taken from a 3rd string X-Men spinoff comic? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth Vader 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2008 2!! heatless memebers?? Are you saying X-Pac got heat? He got X-Pac heat. That's a type of heat. Well you have to credit someone for coming up with a type of heat. And how many people that the WWE pushes as ME's do the exact typeof act. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jingus 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2008 In theory, they could've done something with those three guys, as they all had at least a little talent and had success in other positions. But all of them were past their expiration date. Albert's gimmick was just being a big ugly guy, and teaming with Test for a year had convinced the audience that he sucked. Justin Credible had approximately zero momentum; the WWF audience didn't know him, and any leftover ECW marks hated his guts. Put together, nobody gave a shit. And that horrible, horrible entrance music sure wasn't helping. And then... X-Pac. I've always been mystified at the "change the channel" nature of X-Pac heat, since it's not like the guy is the worst wrestler on earth. Maybe the fans just never bought him turning on Kane and then beating him up a lot. Maybe they just despised his tag-team with Road Dogg, which had zero chemistry and produced a lot of boring matches. Maybe they were just beyond sick of crotch-chops and the Bronco Buster. Whatever it is, after 1999 you couldn't even pay people to like watching this guy. I just don't get the awesome level of visceral hatred that so many people have for a guy of his talent level. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Papacita 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2008 Maybe they just despised his tag-team with Road Dogg, which had zero chemistry and produced a lot of boring matches. Weren't you watching in 2000, Jingus? That may have been one of the greatest tag teams of all time! OF ALL TIME! Anyway, in between the Razor match and that whole...Joanie thing...ahem...I was a pretty big Waltman mark, but that heel turn and subsequent push in 99 just seemed to kill him. He was much better suited as a face (still think he could've gotten a brief title run before the turn) and everything after the fact just seemed so forced with him, from his character, to the GREATEST TAG TEAM OF ALL TIME to the fact that he'd constantly be put over people he had no business going over at the time. The Jericho program didn't help matters either, because Chris was on the verge of main eventing and that feud seemed to drag him down, which was pretty frustrating. As for X-Factor...that was just a waste of time. I wanted to like them, because I'm really a fan of all three guys, but they did absolutely nothing with them. X-Pac kept up the same stale act that had people hating him in the first place. I do think they could've tried a little more with Justin, because even with all the hate he at least had some buzz coming straight out of ECW. I could've seen Albert getting over here in a destructive bodyguard role, but really he never seemed to be in sync with other two. I will admit that the song was a guilty pleasure of mine, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest zerfer Report post Posted January 30, 2008 X-Factor in three words: Worst Music Ever Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Golgo 13 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2008 I loved X-Factor. Up until the Chyna sex tape I've never had a bad word to say about X-Pac, aside from his occasional laziness, liked Justin Credible and was on the Albert/Bernard bandwagon even before then. Though I really hate Uncle Cracker and prefer their first theme, it was still a good one for the group. I only wish they were used better and hadn't used fucking purple in their scheme. I'm utterly convinced that X-Factor, from their colors to their music, and X-Pac himself was just a great troll attempt that eventually took on a life of its own and soon became what we know as X-Pac heat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cabbageboy 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2008 I've always hated X-Pac. Hell I hated him back when he was in Global as The Lightning Kid. He just always has seemed like such a little douche, as in legit and not just playing one on TV. I was also a pretty big Razor Ramon fan in 1993 so you can imagine how thrilled I was that he would job to "that little douche from Global" that I already didn't like. Take a look at his career and his pushes have always been against guys he has ZERO business beating in matches. Razor (though he and Hall are friends), then in WCW he was feuding with Eddie, Malenko, etc. and not just getting his ass kicked. He even feuded with Flair for crying out loud. Then of course his WWF run when he was going over Kane, Jericho, and of course the truly awful tag team with the Road Dog. Now, we also have Justin Credible, who I disliked possibly more than X-Pac due to his ludicrous overpush in ECW. Albert I had no big problems with aside from a general feeling of apathy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2008 I really liked the faction. And yes, Unkle Kracker is just... if there ever was a black hole for musicianship and originality, it would be him... he could stand fifteen feet from any artist while they are trying to perform and automatically suck their ability to perform good music out of them... that's the best way that I can articulate my feelings on that guy... But X-Factor... I was a fan... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Kamala 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2008 Gayest thing I've ever done was give my younger brother a Bronco Buster in the middle of a play wrestling match. I already regret sharing that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SamoaRowe 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2008 I didn't like them, because even though I was still a mark at the time, I could detect that they were never going to go anywhere. I thought Albert and Credible had potential, but I was beyond sick of X-Pac (I was contributing to his X-Pac heat, I guess). It's fun to look back now, how Albert has become a big deal in Japan, and the other two just fell off the face of the planet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dobbs 3K 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2008 I think the worst part of that group was actually Justin Credible. He came off as a third rate cross of "Stone Cold" Steve Austin and X-Pac, and was not that special in the ring. I believe he was later one of about 58 guys in the WCW/ECW Alliance to use the superkick as a finisher. Probably Paul Heyman's least original and most heatless creation, despite cramming him down ECW fans' throats. Then, to actually put him in a group with the guy he looked like a lamer version of, was pretty ridiculous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Kamala 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2008 Am I the only guy who liked Credible better as Aldo Montoya? Now I'm not a huge Aldo mark but I think the guy's style was kind of unique for '95 WWF. I'm not saying he should have main-evented or anything but surely they could have found something better for him to other than being cannon fodder. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vampiro69 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2008 Yo Ya Dealing With The X-Factor I've got everything i ever wanted and im going to get that back Oh! i know you hate X-Factor but you dont have to look at me like that I say you aint have to look at me like that Great lyrics right there. Uncle Kracker should have at least got a People's Choice award for them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diamonddust 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2008 Yo Ya Dealing With The X-Factor I've got everything i ever wanted and im going to get that back Oh! i know you hate X-Factor but you dont have to look at me like that I say you aint have to look at me like that Great lyrics right there. Uncle Kracker should have at least got a People's Choice award for them. Get the bad stuff out of my head now! I could have gone my whole life without having think of that song again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarleyQuinn 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2008 I always thought a tag team of Credible & Albert could have been decent if Credible went to being a cocky prick style wrestler instead of the mimicry of Austin. Kind of like a 2nd (or 3rd) rate version of D'Lo/Mark Henry during the post-Nation days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
claydude14 0 Report post Posted January 31, 2008 My favorite X-Factor memory is when they were the in studio guests on HeAT. I think it was like the day before the ECW stuff happened; and Albert was IC champ with X-Pac Light Heavyweight, and those two were just admiring each other's belt's as Justin Credible tried to peak over their shoulders to see what was up. I think they gave him a wrist sized world title replica so that he wouldn't feel left out. I always reasoned that the way X-Factor treated Justin Credible caused the ECW invasion to happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! 0 Report post Posted January 31, 2008 I always reasoned that the way X-Factor treated Justin Credible caused the ECW invasion to happen. Probably. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RepoMan 0 Report post Posted January 31, 2008 I don't have alot of X-Factor memories other than I really, really, hated them, esp. the intro music. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dobbs 3K 0 Report post Posted January 31, 2008 I do remember the skit where Albert and X-Pac gave Credible that little toy belt. Probably the only worthwhile thing they ever did. Too bad they couldn't have finished the segment by smashing Credible's face in with a hammer, or something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted January 31, 2008 And then... X-Pac. I've always been mystified at the "change the channel" nature of X-Pac heat, since it's not like the guy is the worst wrestler on earth. Maybe the fans just never bought him turning on Kane and then beating him up a lot. Maybe they just despised his tag-team with Road Dogg, which had zero chemistry and produced a lot of boring matches. Maybe they were just beyond sick of crotch-chops and the Bronco Buster. Whatever it is, after 1999 you couldn't even pay people to like watching this guy. I just don't get the awesome level of visceral hatred that so many people have for a guy of his talent level. Two words sum it up, and they come from Edge during a great promo on Raw: Character Development. X-Pac was the same character and personality in 1999 that he was in 1996, and I think the people were tired of it, and by 2001 they absolutely hated it to the point he was the lone WWF guy to get booed when facing a WCW wrestling during the ill-fated Invasion. While some people can get away with staying the same for so long, those people are usually so incredibly popular that they could get a reaction just reading from the phone book. X-Pac was not such a person. He didn't do anything to change, update or freshen himself up in anyway, and it showed in the reaction he got. As for X-Factor, it wasn't a bad idea in theory, but they did it with the wrong people and had the wrong idea. Instead of being an opening match to mid-level act, they should have been pushed as a strong mid-level act on the way to the upper level of the card. The problem is you simply couldn't do that with any of the three involved, despite what they all brought to the table. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SteakGrowsOnUecker 0 Report post Posted January 31, 2008 X-Pac never had the personality to be the leader of a group, he was always the tag along with DX and the nWo. I'd say that also played a part of his heat, noone likes the greasy tag along type. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Star Ocean 3 0 Report post Posted January 31, 2008 I felt kind of sorry for Credible when they came out on Heat, and Justin started to do his "that's not just the coolest" catch phrase. As he started to say it, he paused and looked out, expecting crowd reaction, but there was just silence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ravenbomb 0 Report post Posted January 31, 2008 I actually didn't mind their music at the time. But I was 14 and didn't know any better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
