Hawk 34 0 Report post Posted February 22, 2008 Deer Park Main Event #1- Tag Team Challenge Roderick Strong & Davey Richards vs. Kevin Steen & El Generico Main Event #2- Bryan Picks Nigel's Opponent - Non-Title Nigel McGuinness vs. Brent Albright Main Event #3- Nigel Picks Bryan's Opponent Bryan Danielson vs. Rocky Romero Shiozaki's US Debut Erick Stevens vs. Go Shiozaki First Time Ever Austin Aries vs. Joey Matthews Special Attraction Match Tyler Black vs. The Human Tornado Tag Team Bonus Match Jigsaw & Ruckus with Julius Smokes & Mercedes Martinez vs. Jimmy Jacobs & Necro Butcher with Lacey The debut of Larry Sweeney's talk show segment plus more!!! NYC ROH World Title Match Nigel McGuinness defends vs. Bryan Danielson No DQ FIP World Heavyweight Title Match Roderick Strong defends vs. Erick Stevens vs. The Necro Butcher ROH World Tag Team Title Match Rocky Romero & Davey Richards defend vs. Ruckus & Jigsaw with Julius Smokes SHIMMER Title Match Sara Del Rey defends vs. Daizee Haze First Time Ever Austin Aries vs. Go Shiozaki Grudge Match El Generico vs. Brent Albright Special Challenge Match Kevin Steen vs. Joey Matthews Special Attraction Delirious vs. Human Tornado Tammy Sytch will be there signing autographs!!! Also scheduled to appear: The Age Of The Fall of Jimmy Jacobs & Tyler Black with Lacey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SamoaRowe 0 Report post Posted February 22, 2008 Two solid looking shows. I hope the weather doesn't fuck up tonight's event, it seems a bit too soon to have Unscripted IV. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SamoaRowe 0 Report post Posted February 23, 2008 And the weather DID destroy tonight's show! The card got thrown out in favor of a one night tournament. The results are still coming in over at the ROH board, and they sound decent thus far. Still, I hope ROH is taking notes, because this is the second time this has happened in the last three months. They might be wise to book less shows in wintery areas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Flamboyance 0 Report post Posted February 23, 2008 Yeah. That's a shame. I'll be there tomorrow. I hope everything will run smoothly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Truthiness 0 Report post Posted February 23, 2008 This show looked better than the original one by light years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Cucaracha 0 Report post Posted February 23, 2008 On the pre-show Kyle Durden & Rhett Titus defeating Alex Payne and Ernie Osiris after a powerbomb/splash combination. The main show began: Bryan Danielson defeated Rocky Romero to advance in the tournament after making Romero tap to a variation of the fujiwara armbar. Kevin Steen defeated Delirious to advance in the tournament after a swanton bomb. El Generico defeated Austin Aries with a roll up to advance in the tournament. Go Shiozaki defeated the Necro Butcher after a moonsault to advance in the tournament. Kevin Steen pulled an upset by defeating Bryan Danielson to advance to the finals of the tournament after making Danielson tap out to the sharpshooter. Go Shiozaki was able to pull out a victory over El Generico to also advance to the finals against Kevin Steen. In a non tournament match Jason Blade won a four corner survival match beating Pelle Primeau, Mitch Franklin and The Human Tornado when he pinned Franklin after a pumphandle driver. Ruckus and Jigsaw defeated Zach Gowen and Jimmy Jacobs when Ruckus pinned Gowen after a moonsault legdrop. Zack Gowen was a member of the AOTF for one night only. Kevin Steen pulled out another upset by pinning Go Shiozaki after two package piledrivers to win the tournament and the title shot at a later ROH event. Credit: Indywrestlingnews.com Nothing says rebellion like Zach Gowen, baby! He beat The Big Show. He's a superstar. Also, they're teasing that if The Vulture Squad don't win the Tag Titles, Smokes will make Jigsaw unmask. Weather permitting. And I haven't seen this posted here either, but Chris Sabin and Alex Shelley are booked for the shows in April... uh, weather permitting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garth 0 Report post Posted February 23, 2008 It's intresting to see them bringing the MCMG in again, even if it's just for a double shot. I always thought it was a real shame Shelley never got to live up to his potential in ROH, be it in GenNext or The Embassy his sporadic appearances and injuries always meant that he never won the big one. I'm a mark for both Sabin and Shelley so look forward to seeing them back in ROH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawk 34 0 Report post Posted February 23, 2008 In other big news, ROH will be moving downstairs from the Grand Ballroom to the Hammerstein Ballroom for the May 10th show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawk 34 0 Report post Posted February 24, 2008 Main Show Delirious vs.Human Tornado is up now.Huge Tornado chant starts.Dance off between Delirious and Tornado.They wrestle with music.Out comes AOTF without Necro.Lacey slaps Delirious.Out comes Daizee Haze.She beats on Lacey.And now Delirious gets involved.Delirious,Tornado clean house on the AOTF.Match is ruled a no contest. Delirious and Human Tornado vs.Jimmy Jacobs and Tyler Black is up now.Black and Jacobs win when Jacobs makes Tornado tap to End Time.Delirious chases off the AOTF with a hairpick. Nigel out to cut a promo.Nigel says he's ready.He says Danielson is reckless.Crowd starts chanting "You're gonna get your ****ing head kicked in."Nigel says he's putting his health first...he's worried about who will main event the PPV..Nigel goes full blown heel.Nigel says he won't defend the belt cause the fans won't care when he's a vegetable.Out comes Danielson.Danielson defends the honor of the belt.Danielson says no tv,no 40 years of history because the title is important because everyone works their ass off to win the belt.Everyone from Aries to Punk who worked their ass off for the belt.Its even for Daniels and Strong who tried to win the belt.Danielson agrees to not attack the head.Danielson gives his word amd its not like Morishima's promise but it'll be OK cause I am the best wrestler in the world. El Generico vs. Brent Albright is up now.Albright wins with knees to head.Match ends due to ref stoppage. Larry Sweeney talk show segment is up now.Guest is none other than the returning...Allison Danger.Sweeney asks her if she's a huge slut.Sweeney hits Danger.He lays her out and says Bobby can become a man.He lays out Dempsey on top of her.Sweet and Sour Inc. announce a hostile takover of ROH.Segment over. Kevin Steen vs. Joey Matthews is up now.Matthews is working WWE style and its pissing the crowd off.Steen wins when Matthews taps to the sharpshooter.No handshake between the two post-match.Steen mimmicks a crybaby. Go Shiozaki vs. Austin Aries is up now.Aries defeats Shiozaki with a brainbuster/450 combo for the win.Post-match Tyler Black and Jimmy Jacobs are up in the balcony trying to persuade Aries to join The Age Of The Fall.Tammy Sytch comes out and interrupts the recruitment.Tammy recruits Aries.She offers him "more".Aries says I will take my time to decide.Leaves. Return Date for next NYC show is Saturday May 10th at The Hammerstein Ballroom Intermission Shimmer Title Match:Sara Del Rey vs. Daizee Haze is up now.Del Rey retains over Daizee Haze with the Royal Butterfly. ROH World Tag Team Title Match with Davey Richards and Rocky Romero vs.Ruckus and Jigsaw is up now.Richards and Romero win when Davey hits a sitout powerbomb for the win on Jigsaw.After the match Jigsaw refused to take off the mask and left.Kevin Steen and El Generico are in the crowd with a mic.Steen and Generico challenge the NRC to a fight and want a title shot.The NRC accept and then run when Steen and Generico hit the ring and Steen and Generico chase them to the back. No DQ FIP World Heavyweight Title Match Roderick Strong defends vs. Erick Stevens vs. The Necro Butcher is up now.Strong retains the title win he pins Necro.Match is said to be a brutal brawl. ROH World Title Match Nigel McGuinness defends vs. Bryan Danielson is up now.Nigel hits the ref and gets DQ'ed.Aries and all the babyfaces come out and demand Nigel wrestle or go through all of them.The match is restarted.Amazing match.Nigel is busted open really bad.Nigel retains over Danielson when Nigel makes Danielson tap to The London Dungeon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Flamboyance 0 Report post Posted February 24, 2008 Awesome show. The only bad match was Mathews vs Steen. I was looking forward to this but it sucked. The match was about 10 minutes and Mercury was sweating as if he'd been in the ring for 30+ minutes. It just seemed like he got tired really quickly. He seemed out of it. Sunny looked amazing. Ass everywhere during her segment. CM Punk was hanging out with Becky Bayless watching the show by the stage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garth 0 Report post Posted February 24, 2008 It makes me sad to see AOTF so far from the Tag Team Titles at the moment. Looks like Steen & Generico are next in line for a shot. Whilst AOTF are fairly consistent in their winning ways it doesn't look like they're being positioned for a rematch for the titles in the immediate future. Sounds like good news in regards to moving to the Hammerstein. What is it, double the size of the current venue? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Flamboyance 0 Report post Posted February 24, 2008 Ive been there before for concerts and ONS 06 and it's really big compared to the Grand Ballroom. I'd say its bigger than two Grand Ballrooms put together. The are about 2 or 3 rows of balconies and the floor is pretty wide. I didnt grab a ticket last night but I'll be sure to get some eventually. I too am pretty bummed about AOTF not being in the title picture. Those guys are pretty awesome imo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanks for the Fish 0 Report post Posted February 25, 2008 So there's a shit storm over the rape angle? Sweeney knocked out Allison Danger and then tells Dempsey to get on her and become a man. The crowd starts cheering Bobby to in fact do it, chanting "Man Up!". Now it would have been a heel heat seeking angle that would have been largely forgotten, however the crowd encouraging Bobby to have his way with the knocked out Allison Danger just made the whole bit rather creepy and unnerving. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Flamboyance 0 Report post Posted February 26, 2008 Eh, "rape angle" is stretching it imo. We werent encouraging Dempsey to rape Danger. That's crazy talk. We were egging him on. His character is that of a fat loser wimp and everyone knows he's too scared to touch a girl. Sweeney was just trying to embarrass Dempsey and the crowd was just bein a rowdy crowd. People are blowing this out of proportion on the ROH boards. In no way was this a serious rape angle. Degrading to women? Sure, but it's wrestling and this goes on in wrestling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrVenkman PhD 0 Report post Posted February 27, 2008 Damn, I'm going to be in New York on the 17th. This happened before too, I was a week off being able to go to a show. I don't follow ROH really closely or anything but the December 2005 NYC show I went to was an awesome experience. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Cucaracha 0 Report post Posted February 29, 2008 The new Video Wire has Jigsaw's unmasking. Yes. On the *Video Wire*. Booking 101. Have a guy lose his mask with almost 0 build, then have him unmask on the internet. That Gabe, he's a genius! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Flamboyance 0 Report post Posted February 29, 2008 Yeesh. Yeah, that sucks. The lack of build for the unmasking REALLY bothers me since it could obviously be so much better than this. We kinda figured out the unmasking would take place in a video wire after it didnt happen during the show, but damn, seeing it really go down like this is such a bummer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SamoaRowe 0 Report post Posted February 29, 2008 Come on now, it's not like Gabe has ever given us a reason to believe he follows "booking 101." Jigsaw unmasking on the videowire? Not the smartest move in the world, since it's not as dramatic as it taking place in front of a live audience. However, it's not the dumbest idea in the world either. The videowire has a large (by ROH's standard) audience and they got to do the angle without sarcastic chants. Would have liked more build, but oh well, it's not like the world was waiting on the edge of their seat for this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Cucaracha 0 Report post Posted February 29, 2008 Would have liked more build, but oh well, it's not like the world was waiting on the edge of their seat for this. Well I see that, you could argue people aren't that attached to Jigsaw. But then again, how do you get them to care about a character? You give them a reason to with a storyline. If there was one storyline Jigsaw had, it was the unmasking. Now? I dunno. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanks for the Fish 0 Report post Posted March 1, 2008 The "rape angle" has been cut from the future DVD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Truthiness 0 Report post Posted March 1, 2008 Where you get that from Dragon? I don't see it on the site. Edit: I seen it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SamoaRowe 0 Report post Posted March 1, 2008 Would have liked more build, but oh well, it's not like the world was waiting on the edge of their seat for this. Well I see that, you could argue people aren't that attached to Jigsaw. But then again, how do you get them to care about a character? You give them a reason to with a storyline. If there was one storyline Jigsaw had, it was the unmasking. Now? I dunno. Yeah, that's true. I guess this was more of a means just to make Jigsaw fit in with the Vulture Squad more (a group of thugs and a lucha guy, hmmm). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DangerousDamon 0 Report post Posted March 2, 2008 Would have liked more build, but oh well, it's not like the world was waiting on the edge of their seat for this. Well I see that, you could argue people aren't that attached to Jigsaw. But then again, how do you get them to care about a character? You give them a reason to with a storyline. If there was one storyline Jigsaw had, it was the unmasking. Now? I dunno. Yeah, that's true. I guess this was more of a means just to make Jigsaw fit in with the Vulture Squad more (a group of thugs and a lucha guy, hmmm). a lucha guy from BROOKLYN mind you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites