Diamonddust 0 Report post Posted April 9, 2009 Another interesting bit is Flair talks about potential opponents and mentions Magnum. He says he'll hurt Magnum so bad he'll never be able to challenge him for the title again. Two days later... It's going to be weird not seeing Magnum on these shows anymore. He was such a big part of JCP during this time and he was getting bigger and bigger with every appearance. Agreed. It's always been an eerie thought that while watching Magnum grow into what should have been a mega-star... you knew it was all going to abruptly end. It put things in perspective and made you wonder... what could have been? Listening to several shoot interviews, there was no doubt he was going to win the NWA title at one point or other. If he had stayed healthy, I'm guessing the careers of Lex Luger and Sting would have been affected the most. I'm also guessing the next NWA show probably is devoted to Magnum and such, although I could be mistaken. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jericholic82 0 Report post Posted April 11, 2009 Unintentional joke of the day goes to Ricky Morton when talking about the Andersons "There's nothing we can do to stop you from jumping on us,but there's a whole lot, brother, we can do to get you off" Anyhow the Valiant vignette was, odd. Face turn for Baron too, interesting . Should be interesting to see how they handled the Magnum crash. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth Pipes 0 Report post Posted April 11, 2009 Here's the Mid-Atlantic blog discussing how they did handle it... http://midatlantictelevision.blogspot.com/ Interesting bits... -Magnum's last TV opponent was a jobber named The Grim Reaper -Looks like JCP showed Vince McMahon-like levels of sensitivity by talking about Magnum's injury and then cutting straight to video footage of the Horsemen attacking Dusty and breaking his arm. -The Koloff face turn takes place shortly after this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diamonddust 0 Report post Posted April 29, 2009 The new NWA episode is pretty packed: -They show the angle where the Horsemen break Dusty's hand in Crockett's parking lot -They show the Nikita face turn and how the crowd went absolutely ballistic for it. Flair sells it great to set up the main event at Starrcade '86. -They do an extended promo with the Road Warriors to hype the Skywalkers match with the Midnight Express. It contains a work-out segment where they might as well have shown Hawk and Animal shooting up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diamonddust 0 Report post Posted May 6, 2009 The newest NWA episode re-aired angle where the Horsemen rubs Morton's face in the concrete backstage and then they break it during a big arena show. I know we're all PG now, but the face in concrete angle is simplistic in nature but it's produces such a good visual. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cabbageboy 0 Report post Posted May 10, 2009 Yeah Nikita vs. Flair was a strange main event for Starrcade but it was due to necessity. Not only is it a curious match but it's a Catch 22, since Koloff had just turned and was US Champ, so they weren't putting the belt on him, yet he just turned and couldn't afford a high profile loss to Flair. And that's why DQ finishes were born. But then they booked a DQ in the main event of the biggest show of the year.... This is going to sound nuts, but am I the only one who actually enjoys the Valiant/Jones angle? I've mentioned in the past on here that Jones was a mediocre manager, but this angle was nowhere near as awful was reputed. But then Valiant has always been more popular in my area (Memphis/USWA) than he was anywhere else. Still, it's harmless midcard antics with a goofy face up against an army, friends betray him and take money, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jericholic82 0 Report post Posted May 11, 2009 I agree cabbage, the angle has been more fun than I would have thought. I didn't have cable back in that time, plus I was 4 so I didn't follow the NWA/WCW back then. So it's cool to be able to see all these oldschool shows and learn more about the old-school storylines and such. The Valiant/Jones angle is simple wrestling storytelling and was able to strecth out for months with so many twists and turns, yet kept you interested. Even now, I want to see Jones get his. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
George_South 0 Report post Posted May 13, 2009 Okay, completely stupid question I'm about to ask: where the heck are you guys watching the weekly NWA programs? Yes, insult me and call me a moron, but please don't forget to tell me how/where I can watch these. Gracias. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diamonddust 0 Report post Posted May 13, 2009 Okay, completely stupid question I'm about to ask: where the heck are you guys watching the weekly NWA programs? Yes, insult me and call me a moron, but please don't forget to tell me how/where I can watch these. Gracias. The WWE 24/7 Classics On-Demand channel. They show the old WCW episodes in sequence. They are up to November 1986 right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
George_South 0 Report post Posted May 14, 2009 Okay, completely stupid question I'm about to ask: where the heck are you guys watching the weekly NWA programs? Yes, insult me and call me a moron, but please don't forget to tell me how/where I can watch these. Gracias. The WWE 24/7 Classics On-Demand channel. They show the old WCW episodes in sequence. They are up to November 1986 right now. Thanks for the reply, man. Unfortunately, I checked my listings and my cable provider (in my area) doesn't seem to provide that service. Ugh. Pissed. Oh well. Think I'm going to buy the entire '87 NWA weekly programming DVDs instead! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth Pipes 0 Report post Posted May 15, 2009 Yeah Nikita vs. Flair was a strange main event for Starrcade but it was due to necessity. Not only is it a curious match but it's a Catch 22, since Koloff had just turned and was US Champ, so they weren't putting the belt on him, yet he just turned and couldn't afford a high profile loss to Flair. And that's why DQ finishes were born. But then they booked a DQ in the main event of the biggest show of the year.... This is going to sound nuts, but am I the only one who actually enjoys the Valiant/Jones angle? I've mentioned in the past on here that Jones was a mediocre manager, but this angle was nowhere near as awful was reputed. But then Valiant has always been more popular in my area (Memphis/USWA) than he was anywhere else. Still, it's harmless midcard antics with a goofy face up against an army, friends betray him and take money, etc. I have to admit, I've gotten used to it. Jones is a buffoon manager but it's kind of funny. At least it's a well-done, drawn out feud. I enjoyed the show a few weeks ago where it was the focus of attention. Like I said then, the inclusion of Rick Rude and Manny Fernandez into the Army improved it immensely. I can't wait till the NWA shows start getting longer. BTW, at the end of the show, Ivan said that Nikita must be punished "old country way." Thankfully, he didn't imply what that meant... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vond freedom 0 Report post Posted May 26, 2009 Yeah Nikita vs. Flair was a strange main event for Starrcade but it was due to necessity. Not only is it a curious match but it's a Catch 22, since Koloff had just turned and was US Champ, so they weren't putting the belt on him, yet he just turned and couldn't afford a high profile loss to Flair. And that's why DQ finishes were born. But then they booked a DQ in the main event of the biggest show of the year.... Slightly off-topic, but after watching this episode last night I was reminded how much I loved those US and TV title belts. This is going to sound nuts, but am I the only one who actually enjoys the Valiant/Jones angle? I've mentioned in the past on here that Jones was a mediocre manager, but this angle was nowhere near as awful was reputed. But then Valiant has always been more popular in my area (Memphis/USWA) than he was anywhere else. Still, it's harmless midcard antics with a goofy face up against an army, friends betray him and take money, etc. I wasn't a big fan of Valiant when I was a kid, but enjoy him now if only for the fact that he reminds me of my 50-something-year-old REO-Speedwagon-listening in-laws. I have to admit, I've gotten used to it. Jones is a buffoon manager but it's kind of funny. At least it's a well-done, drawn out feud. I enjoyed the show a few weeks ago where it was the focus of attention. Like I said then, the inclusion of Rick Rude and Manny Fernandez into the Army improved it immensely. I can't wait till the NWA shows start getting longer. At what point do they move from one to two hours? I assume '87 as this is when I really started watching and remember it being two hours. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diamonddust 0 Report post Posted May 26, 2009 Yeah Nikita vs. Flair was a strange main event for Starrcade but it was due to necessity. Not only is it a curious match but it's a Catch 22, since Koloff had just turned and was US Champ, so they weren't putting the belt on him, yet he just turned and couldn't afford a high profile loss to Flair. And that's why DQ finishes were born. But then they booked a DQ in the main event of the biggest show of the year.... Slightly off-topic, but after watching this episode last night I was reminded how much I loved those US and TV title belts. This is going to sound nuts, but am I the only one who actually enjoys the Valiant/Jones angle? I've mentioned in the past on here that Jones was a mediocre manager, but this angle was nowhere near as awful was reputed. But then Valiant has always been more popular in my area (Memphis/USWA) than he was anywhere else. Still, it's harmless midcard antics with a goofy face up against an army, friends betray him and take money, etc. I wasn't a big fan of Valiant when I was a kid, but enjoy him now if only for the fact that he reminds me of my 50-something-year-old REO-Speedwagon-listening in-laws. I have to admit, I've gotten used to it. Jones is a buffoon manager but it's kind of funny. At least it's a well-done, drawn out feud. I enjoyed the show a few weeks ago where it was the focus of attention. Like I said then, the inclusion of Rick Rude and Manny Fernandez into the Army improved it immensely. I can't wait till the NWA shows start getting longer. At what point do they move from one to two hours? I assume '87 as this is when I really started watching and remember it being two hours. They were always two hours with commercials... the short shows came if they were being pre-empted for some reason (Braves baseball or some other sport commitment TBS used to have, such as college football). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vond freedom 0 Report post Posted May 26, 2009 They were always two hours with commercials... the short shows came if they were being pre-empted for some reason (Braves baseball or some other sport commitment TBS used to have, such as college football). Hah...I had forgotten about the college football pre-emptions. Awesome. I swear 24/7 is awesome at making me feel like I'm 10 years old again sitting in my parent's basement. On a completely non-wrestling irrelevant note, the half hour before NWA Saturday Night was always Mama's Family time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth Pipes 0 Report post Posted May 27, 2009 I started watching after the first Clash of the Champions in 1988. What I always remember was "Fishing with Orlando Wilson" always came on before the NWA. "I'm going fish-ing again..." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diamonddust 0 Report post Posted May 27, 2009 I started watching after the first Clash of the Champions in 1988. What I always remember was "Fishing with Orlando Wilson" always came on before the NWA. "I'm going fish-ing again..." Yup... every Saturday, I'd turn it to TBS and catch the very end of that program. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brett Wolverton 0 Report post Posted May 27, 2009 I came in as a fan during the WCW Saturday Night era in '91-'92, so for me, the lead-in was Captain Planet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
George_South 0 Report post Posted May 27, 2009 I started watching after the first Clash of the Champions in 1988. What I always remember was "Fishing with Orlando Wilson" always came on before the NWA. "I'm going fish-ing again..." Oh my God---now you're bringing back memories. My Dad and I would sit in the basement and watch the last five minutes of Fishin' With Orlando Wilson....and just wait for the beginning of wrestling. Classic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drury37 0 Report post Posted May 28, 2009 I came in as a fan during the WCW Saturday Night era in '91-'92, so for me, the lead-in was Captain Planet Ditto haha. Whenever I hear that theme song I think WCW. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kirk angel 0 Report post Posted July 3, 2009 Whats with The R&R Express wearing the old tag team belts on this weeks show? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites