Wrestlemania XXIV Discussion Thread

[Mike wanna be 0]

Smarter move would be to have a run-in to get somebody over with Show and start a feud with that (maybe he hits Show low and drops him to a knee, giving Mayweather the chance to hit him in the face), rather than just knocking Show out when there's no possibility of a rematch.

 

That said, I wouldn't be opposed to Mayweather channeling Little Mac and unloading a leaping uppercut to knock Show down.

[Hawk 34 0]

That has been the consensus belief throughout the entire build up (during a staged brawl between Mayweather's entourage and other WWE wrestlers). The debate has generally centered around whom that person would be, often boiling down to MVP, Kennedy and Jericho.

[RedJed 0]

Smarter move would be to have a run-in to get somebody over with Show and start a feud with that (maybe he hits Show low and drops him to a knee, giving Mayweather the chance to hit him in the face), rather than just knocking Show out when there's no possibility of a rematch.

 

That said, I wouldn't be opposed to Mayweather channeling Little Mac and unloading a leaping uppercut to knock Show down.

 

Unfortunately, the only guy I could realistically see doing a run-in on Show at this point is Orton, and that would be horribly dull.

 

EDIT - Possibly Jericho too I guess given the angle they did with them on Raw weeks ago.

[PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! 0]

I am visiting with friends and family this weekend. I chose this weekend, specifically, because of WrestleMania. I moved several hours away last summer, but I'll be damned if I am going to miss out on tradition. I make a bigger deal out of WrestleMania than I do with my own birthday.

[RedJed 0]

More news on the Mayweather/Show match courtesy of Mayweather himself on some BET show today....

 

- The match is "No Holds Barred"

- Mayweather did a hard sell saying it will be crazy and wild. When asked if 50 Cent would be there he said its possible and anyone could be there (on a side note, if 50 Cent IS there, that's silly that they haven't really advertised that much).

- Mayweather reiterated that he and Show can do what they want in this match (I dont know if thats a hint at parts of it being shoot or what?).

[The Niggardly King 0]

Man, HBK/Flair has a lot of potential to be good/great as long as Michaels doesn't go into his retarded mode. But this is Mania, and he's good about not doing it so I shouldn't have any worries.

[JPopStarKami 0]

Man, HBK/Flair has a lot of potential to be good/great as long as Michaels doesn't go into his retarded mode. But this is Mania, and he's good about not doing it so I shouldn't have any worries.

 

Retarded mode?

[DrVenkman PhD 0]

I assume KOAB's referring to the way he acted against Hogan, but I highly doubt he would behave that way with Flair.

[The Niggardly King 0]

No it's a certain type of thing where Michaels sort of "tries" to hard to have a classic, and usually ends up looking shitty by putting too much on himself. It hasn't happened in a LONG while though, so it's sort of just a minor worry.

 

And the only way I wanna see Show/Mayweather end is in a wild brawl outside the ring, MVP comes in, takes Show out with the MITB briefcase or a chair and Mayweather do a one foot pin.

[Lil' Bitch 0]

Matches I'm looking forward to:

 

Edge / Undertaker

Michaels / Flair

MITB IV

Finlay / Layfield

[ChrisMWaters 0]

I made this thought in the WrestleMania Predictions thread but...

 

Am I the only one that can see Matt Hardy making a surprise return to cost MVP the Money in the Bank match...

 

Or even be a surprise entrant into that match? Because...and I know it's because Jeff F'd up...7 seems like a strange number for that match.

[Twisted Intestine 0]

A couple maybe stupid questions...

 

What time does it start?

 

What time does it run until?

 

If I start watching at 9 EST (when I'll be home from work) How many matches will I miss, and which ones will they likely be?

[LivingLegendGaryColeman 0]

I made this thought in the WrestleMania Predictions thread but...

 

Am I the only one that can see Matt Hardy making a surprise return to cost MVP the Money in the Bank match...

 

Or even be a surprise entrant into that match? Because...and I know it's because Jeff F'd up...7 seems like a strange number for that match.

 

I was wondering that/hoping that too. I think also because as it stands right now there are 2 faces and 5 heels and MVP is the sole Smackdown guy in the match. 3 RAW (Jericho/Carlito/Kennedy), 3 ECW (Morrison/Punk/Benjamin) and then MVP. I guess maybe Shelton is being pushed as somewhat of a face going into this now because of the match on ECW Tuesday (he didn't do any of his cocky stuff this week really and played face against Carlito) and the fact people are gonna pop for whatever crazy thing he does this year.

[The Ghost of bps21 0]

A couple maybe stupid questions...

 

What time does it start?

 

What time does it run until?

 

If I start watching at 9 EST (when I'll be home from work) How many matches will I miss, and which ones will they likely be?

 

 

It starts at 7...so you'd miss half the show. (actually more than becuase they'll usually go off the air with 20 minutes to go of air time) But there's a replay right after that you should get when you order it.

 

As for matches...hard to say exactly...but I'd bet that the ECW title match, money in the bank and JBL/Finlay are the first 3 matches in whatever order they do it in.

[Lil' Bitch 0]

Edge Vs. Undertaker has been the worst booked main event feud since Jericho Vs. HHH

[The Ghost of bps21 0]

I haven't watched Smackdown in months...

 

So I'm looking more forward to Edge/Taker than almost anything else.

 

That says a lot about the build for this show right there.

[PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! 0]

Edge Vs. Undertaker has been the worst booked main event feud since Jericho Vs. HHH

 

Worse than HHH-Orton from '04? Or, if we're talking strictly WrestleMania, it can't be worse than HHH-Booker, right?

[Hawk 34 0]

The build for Undertaker and Edge has been an absolute disappointment. It started off very well, all the way back to last spring during that period when both Kennedy and Undertaker were forced to be written off the show. The set up for this match was made right there and they should have kept it going. Edge’s return at Survivor Series was done superbly and showed signs that they would have a tremendous march to WM.

 

In typical WWE fashion, they blew it. It isn’t as disastrous as the HHH/Jericho and HHH/Booker WM builds because neither is hurt from it. The biggest problem with this match is that it has been loaded with the complete collection of Undertaker feud cliches. From spooky lighting effects, the traditional casket segment and the cowardly heel hiding behind his cronies. Everything has just been meandering with the lone saving grace coming in the probability of a pretty good match. The WWE Title, predictably has been built fairly well enough even if most people here are turned off by all possible results. Poor booking has plagued the entire Wrestlemania card. It’s saved by the strength of the quality that were likely to see and the unique spectacle that will be offered from the venue as well as the curiosity factor with Mayweather.

 

[Downhome 0]

Well, my order is in.

 

Now to play the waiting game.

 

It’s saved by the strength of the quality that were likely to see and the unique spectacle that will be offered from the venue as well as the curiosity factor with Mayweather.

 

Not to mention the curiosity factor with the weather period.

[DrVenkman PhD 0]

Aww, the waiting game sucks. Let's play Hungry Hungry Hippos! (Mandatory "Waiting game" response).

[Thanks for the Fish 0]

Anybody vs Undertaker sucks because A]Every big feud with the Undertaker is basically the same and B]Undertaker isn't going to lose at WM.

 

 

[Caliban 0]

Here's the set as of last night:

 

Chance of rain tomorrow seems to be going up all the time according to weather.com...

[Downhome 0]

Anybody vs Undertaker sucks because A]Every big feud with the Undertaker is basically the same and B]Undertaker isn't going to lose at WM.

 

Yeah, every match with Taker, especially those at WM, sure have sucked a big dong.

[Enigma 0]

Weather Channel is saying 40% chance of rain all day tomorrow.

[MillenniumMan831 0]

Judging from that pic, they may have to bring back the WrestleMania carts.

[Dandy 0]

There is a ramp set up, and the ring is not that far from the ramp. They needed the carts at X-Seven, but it doesn't look like it here.

[Dandy 0]

From Eric Cohen at About.com, the records of every from every Wrestlemania:

Bold text indicates a wrestler currently on the roster.

 

A

Adam Bomb 0-1

Adrian Adonis 1-1

Aguila 0-1

Ahmed Johnson 1-1

Akebono 1-1

Akio 0-1

Al Snow 0-2

Albert 1-1

Alundra Blayze 1-0

Andre the Giant 2-3-1

Animal 3-0

Arn Anderson 1-0

Ashley 0-1

Ax 3-0

 

B

B Brian Blair 0-3

Bad News Brown 1-0-2

Bam Bam Bigelow 1-2

Barbarian 1-2

Barry Windham 0-2

Bart Gunn 0-3

Batista 2-1

Big Bossman 5-1

Big John Studd 0-2

Big Show 1-6

Bill Fralic 0-1

Bill Goldberg 1-0

Billy Gunn 1-3

Billy Jack Haynes 0-0-1

Billy Kidman 0-1

Bob Backlund 0-2

Bob Holly 2-1

Bob Orton 0-1

Bobby Heenan 1-1

Boogey Man 1-0

Booker T 1-4

Boris Zuckhov 0-2

Bret Hart 7-6

Brian Christopher 1-1

Brian Knobbs 1-1

Brock Lesnar 1-1

Brother Love 0-1

Bruno Sammartino 0-1

Brutus Beefcake 3-2-2

Bubba Ray Dudley 0-4

Bull Buchanan 1-1

Bushwhacker Butch 1-1

Bushwhacker Luke 1-1

Butch Reed 1-1

Butterbean 1-0

 

C

Candice Michelle 0-1

Carlito 0-1

Chainz 0-1

Charlie Haas 1-1

Chavo Guerrero 1-1

Chris Benoit 3-5

Chris Jericho 2-5

Chris Masters 0-1

Christian 4-3

Christy Hemme 0-1

Chuck Palumbo 1-0

Chyna 2-0

CM Punk 0-1

Cpl. Kirchner 1-0

Crash Holly 0-1

Crush 0-4

Curt Hennig 1-3

 

D

Dallas Page 1-0

Danny Basham 0-1

Danny Davis 1-1

Danny Spivey 0-1

Davey Boy Smith 4-2-1

David Sammartino 0-0-1

Dean Malenko 0-1

Diesel 1-1

Dink 0-1

Dino Bravo 1-3

D-Lo Brown 0-3

Doink (not Matt Borne) 0-1

Don Muraco 1-2-1

Dory Funk 1-0

Doug Basham 0-1

Doug Furnas 0-1

Duke Droese 0-1

Dusty Rhodes 1-0

D-Von Dudley 0-4

Dynamite Kid 1-2

 

E

Earthquake 4-1

Eddie Guerrero 2-3

Edge 5-1

Eli Blu (8 Ball) 0-2

Elijah Burke 0-1

Ernie Holmes 0-1

Executioner 0-1

 

F

Fabulous Moolah 1-0

Farooq 1-5

Finlay 0-2

Flash Funk 0-1

Funaki 0-2

 

G

Garrison Cade 0-1

Genichiro Tenyru 1-0

George Steele 0-2

George Welles 0-1

Giant Gonzalez 0-1

Gobbledy Gooker 0-1

Goldust 0-5

Goon 0-1

Great Khali 1-0

Greg Valentine 2-5

 

H

Haiti Kid 1-0

Haku (Tonga) 1-4

Harley Race 1-1

Harvey Martin 0-1

Hawk 3-0

Headbanger Mosh 1-2

Headbanger Thrash 1-2

Henry Godwinn 0-2

Hercules 1-4-1

Hillbilly Jim 1-3

Honky Tonk Man 1-2

Hulk Hogan 8-3-1

Hurricane 1-1

 

I

Iron Sheik 3-1

Ivory 0-1

 

J

Jackie Gayda 0-1

Jacob Blu (Skull) 0-2

Jacques Rougeau (The Mountie) 1-6

Jake Roberts 3-4-1

Jamie Knoble 0-1

Jazz 1-1

JBL 2-6

Jeff Hardy 0-4

Jeff Jarrett 1-1

Jerry Saggs 1-1

Jesus Castillo 0-1

Jim Brunzell 0-3

Jim Cornette 0-1

Jim Duggan 2-1-1

Jim Neidhardt 3-3

Jim Powers 0-1

Jimbo Covert 0-1

Jimmy Snuka 0-2

Joey Abs 0-1

John Cena 4-0

Jose Estrada 0-1

Junk Yard Dog 1-3

 

K

Kama Mustafa (The Godfather/Goodfather) 0-3

Kamala 0-1

Kane 4-5

Kat 0-1

Kato 1-0

Ken Kennedy 1-0

Ken Patera 0-1

Ken Shamrock 0-2

Kerry Von Erich 1-0

Kevin Thorn 0-1

Kij Kitao 1-0

Kim Chee 0-1

King Kong Bundy 1-3

Koko B Ware 0-3

Kurt Angle 3-5

 

L

Lashley 1-1

Lawrence Taylor 1-0

Lelani Kai 0-2

Lex Luger 2-1

Lita 0-1

Little Beaver 1-0

Little Tokyo 0-1

Lord Littlebrook 0-1

Luna Vachon 1-1

 

M

Mable (Viscera) 1-1

Marc Mero 1-0

Marcus Cor Von 0-1

Mark Henry 0-2

Mark Jindrack 0-1

Marty Jannetty 1-2

Matt Borne (Doink) 1-2

Matt Hardy 1-5

Matt Striker 0-1

Maven 1-1

Melina 1-0

Michael Hayes 0-1

Mick Foley (Mankind/Cactus Jack) 2-3-1

Mickie James 1-0

Miguel Perez 0-1

Mike Rotundo (IRS) 1-2

Mo 1-0

Molly Holly 1-2

Montel Vontavius Porter 0-1

Mr. Fuji 0-1

Mr. T 2-0

[Dandy 0]

N

Nikolai Volkoff 2-4

Nunzio 0-1

 

O

One Man Gang (Akeem) 2-3

Owen Hart (Blue Blazer) 5-2-1

 

P

Paul Orndorff 0-1-1

Paul Roma 0-2

Pedro Morales 0-1

Perry Saturn 0-1

Pete Gas 0-1

Phil Lafon 0-1

Phinneas Godwinn 0-2

Pierre Ouelette 0-2

 

R

Randy Orton 1-3

Randy Savage 7-4

Raven 0-1

Raymond Rougeau 0-3

Recon 0-1

Renee Dupree 0-1

Rey Mysterio 2-2

Rhyno 0-1

Ric Flair 1-3

Rick Martel 2-4

Rick Rude 2-0-1

Rick Steiner 1-0

Ricky Morton 0-1

Ricky Steamboat 3-1

Rikishi (Fatu/The Sultan) 2-2

Road Dogg 1-2

Rob Conway 0-1

Rob Van Dam 4-0

Robert Gibson 0-1

Roddy Piper 2-3-1

Rodney 0-1

Ron Bass 0-1

Ron Garvin 0-1

Russ Francis 0-1

 

S

Sable 3-0

Sabu 1-0

Sam Houston 0-1

Samu 0-1

Sandman 1-0

Sapphire 1-0

Savio Vega 0-3

Scott Hall (Razor Ramon) 3-1

Scott Steiner 1-0

Scotty Too Hotty 2-1

SD Jones 0-1

Sgt. Slaughter 1-2

Shane McMahon 2-0

Shannon Moore 0-1

Sharmell 0-1

Shawn Michaels 5-9

Shelton Benjamin 1-3

Sherri Martel 0-1

Sid 0-2

Sika 0-1

Skinner 0-1

Smash (Repo Man) 3-3

Sniper 0-1

Spike Dudley 1-1

Stacy Keibler 0-1

Steve Austin 5-2

Steve Blackman 0-2

 

T

Tajiri 0-1

Taka Michinoku 1-1

Tama 1-0

Tanaka 1-0

Tatanka 2-0

Tazz 1-1

Ted Arcidi 0-1

Ted DiBiase 4-3-1

Terri Runnels 1-0

Terry Funk 2-0

Terry Taylor 1-0

Test 1-2

The Rock 4-4

Tito Santana 1-7

Tom Zenk 1-0

Tommy Dreamer 1-0

Tony Atlas 0-1

Tori 0-1

Torrie Wilson 2-0

Triple H 5-6

Trish Stratus 2-2

Tully Blanchard 1-0

Typhoon (Tugboat) 1-1

 

U

Ultimate Warrior 4-1

Ultimo Dragon 0-1

Umaga 0-1

Uncle Elmer 0-1

Undertaker 15-0

 

V

Vader 1-0-1

Val Venis 0-2

Velvet McIntyre 0-1

Victoria 1-1

Vince McMahon 0-3

Virgil 2-0

 

W

Warlord 0-2

Wendi Richter 1-0

William Perry 0-1

William Regal 0-2

 

X

X-Pac 0-2

 

Y

Yokozuna 3-3

[Enigma 0]

WWE.Com concluded their "Top Ten Matches that Made Us Sweat". Feel free to pick it apart as is your want.

 

10. WrestleMania 21 (2005): Money in the Bank Match -- Edge vs. Kane vs. Chris Benoit vs. Christian vs. Shelton Benjamin vs. Chris Jericho

 

9. WrestleMania X8 (2002): WWE Championship -- Chris Jericho vs. Triple H

 

8. WrestleMania X (1994): Intercontinental Title Ladder Match -- Razor Ramon vs. Shawn Michaels

 

7. WrestleMania III (1987): Intercontinental Championship -- Randy Savage vs. Ricky Steamboat

 

6. WrestleMania X-Seven (2001): WWE Championship No Holds Barred Match -- The Rock vs. Stone Cold Steve Austin

 

5. WrestleMania XII (1996): WWE Championship 60-Minute Iron Man Match -- Bret Hart vs. Shawn Michaels

 

4. WrestleMania III (1987): WWE Championship -- Hulk Hogan vs. Andre the Giant

 

3. WrestleMania VII (1991): Retirement Match -- Randy Savage vs. The Ultimate Warrior

 

2. WrestleMania X8 (2002): Hulk Hogan vs. The Rock

 

1. WrestleMania 23 (2007): World Heavyweight Championship -- Batista vs. The Undertaker

[Kurt Angle Mark 0]

From Meltzer:

 

Word from Orlando is that WWE is heavily papering the city for the last 5,000 to 7,000 or so seats that haven't been sold or given away up to this point. It would be the first time Wrestlemania has had to be papered on the last few days since 1992 or 1993