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RRR, since you mentioned a lot of UFC 13's connections to modern day MMA:

 

HW tournament competitor Dmitri Stepanov is Arlovski's training partner, and even gave his own nickname to Andrei.

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Guest Brian

Dirty boxing is basically employing illegal boxing tactics to MMA using the clinch by wrapping up the back of the opponents neck, controlling the head, and using uppercuts and elbows (as well as knees) as your weapons of choice).

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I thought I posted it already, but I guess not...

 

Anyways, horrible rankings from MMAWeekly:

 

 

HEAVYWEIGHT DIVISION

1. Fedor Emelianenko - 100 Points (10 first place votes)

2. Minotauro Nogueira - 90 Points

3. Mirko Cro Cop - 75 Points

4. Andrei Arlovski - 69 Points

5. Sergei Kharitonov - 56 Points

6. Josh Barnett - 43 Points

7. Tim Sylvia - 47 Points

8. Heath Herring - 20 Points

9. Fabricio Werdum - 17 Points

10.Alexsander Emelinanenko -15 Points

Others receiving votes - (12)Frank Mir,(11)Ron Waterman, (10)- Ricco Rodriguez

 

LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT DIVISION

1. Chuck Liddell - 96 Points (6 first place votes)

2. Mauricio "Shogun" Rua - 89 Points (4 first place votes)

3. Wanderlei Silva - 74 Points

4. Randy Couture- 63 Points

5. Ricardo Arona - 52 Points

6. Rogerio Nogueira - 42 Points

7. Tito Ortiz- 23 Points

8. Alistair Overeem - 35 Points

9. Babalu Sobral - 34 Points

10.Quinton Jackson - 21 Points

 

 

MIDDLEWEIGHT DIVISON

1. Dan Henderson - 89 Points (5 first place votes)

2. Rich Franklin - 88 Points (5 first place votes)

3. Matt Lindland - 68 Points

4. Anderson Silva - 65 Points

5. Murilo Bustamante - 49 Points

6. Jeremy Horn - 43 Points

7. Nathan Marquardt -45 Points

8. Ivan Salaverry - 43 Points

9. Evan Tanner - 33 Points

10. Joe Doerksen - 15 Points

 

 

WELTERWEIGHT DIVISION

1. BJ Penn - 97 Points (6 first place votes)

2. Matt Hughes - 96 Points (4 first place vote)

3. Georges St. Pierre- 89 Points

4. Karo Parisyan - 60 Points

5. Frank Trigg - 55 Points

6 .Charuto Verissimo - 49 Points

7. Sean Sherk- 31 Points

8. Jake Shields - 26 Points

9. Diego Sanchez - 20 Points

10. Nick Diaz - 19 Points

 

 

LIGHTWEIGHT DIVISION

1. Takanori Gomi

2. Hayato "Mach" Sakurai

3. Joaquim Hansen

4. Yves Edwards

5. Tatsuyo Kawijiri

6. Vitor "Shaolin" Ribeiro

7. Genki Sudo

8. Jens Pulver

9. Luiz Azeredo

10.Hermes Franca

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You posted it at the UFC.

 

Anderson Silva at number 4? Yikes. Though I should mention that Jeremy's win, if it's not as controversial as people say over Prangley, is impressive. And seeing as how Anderson beat Jeremy, I can see why they might rank him that high. Although I did hear Jeremy got hurt in that fight.

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How is David Loiseau not on there? Also, how the hell did Dan Henderson jump that high when they don't even value his win over Akihiro Gono (seeing as how he's not top ten on this list). Also, why am I even bothering? This list is awful. At least Gurgel is not on there anymore.

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Yeah that's it, so his win over Horn shouldn't hold so much weight, especially considering how much poorer his performances were against other grapplers like Takase and Chonan.

 

Also, how good is Horn's jiu jitsu? Most of the pros speak of it as if it's mythical or something, but I really don't get it. Is it really that good? Has he ever tested it against other top grapplers in sub grappling competitions?

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Horn's submission skills are pretty proven in MMA, as he's submitted some good guys and come close to submitting others. Part of his success lies in some of physical characteristics, namely his flexibility and somewhat thin frame. Of course, he still gets hyped up by people like Rogan a bit too much, but that's the way it goes.

 

I don't know much about Jeremy's history at grappling comps aside from his trip to Abu Dhabi in 2000, where he won his opening round match via sub before throwing his match with Hughes in the next round.

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Throwing as in:

 

"Hey, Matt, you'll probably do better in the upcoming rounds, so why don't I just give you an easy win? And while we're at it, we'll also try and win the Best Takedown and Fastest Submission cash bonuses while we're at it."

 

They did end up getting the Best Throw award, but were out-"worked"by Renzo Gracie and Marcio Feitosa Souza in the quickest sub department.

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As far as gimmick matches go 3-Way Dance! Hughes vs GSP vs BJ Penn!

 

I figure a good standup would be a good defense against losing the first fall. All it takes is one guy to go for a take down and the extra man would probably end them with a RNC. Then we've got ourselves a one-on-one situation.

 

Maybe making it triple threat rules would add some strategy to it.

Edited by I like Forums

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Guest Brian

There's something ironic about a guy with an ego the size Tito has having a head to fit it all.

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We should do a poll to see which of the big two people enjoy watching more. Clearly SHOOTO doesn't count, they don't bring the HEAVYWEIGHTS~!

 

Chalk one up for UFC here.

 

I'm sorry to inform you, but neither does UFC.

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