EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2008 Let's give this a whirl. From another thread. NL MVP 1. Albert Pujols 2. Johan Santana 3. Chase Utley 4. David Wright 5. Lance Berkman 6. Hanley Ramirez 7. Geovany Soto 8. Carlos Beltran 9. Carlos Delgado 10. Tim Lincecum AL MVP 1. Joe Mauer 2. Dustin Pedroia 3. Grady Sizemore 4. Alex Rodriguez 5. Josh Hamilton 6. Nick Markakis 7. Justin Morneau 8. Brian Roberts 9. Kevin Youkilis 10. Carlos Quentin Mauer is on the verge of winning the batting title, as a catcher. Virtually no catcher has ever done it, and it will be Mauer's second. Pedroia has an ungodly number of doubles and is 20/21 in stolen base attempts. NL Cy Young 1. Johan Santana 2. Tim Lincecum 3. Cole Hamels AL Cy Young 1. Cliff Lee 2. Roy Halladay 3. Mike Mussina NL Rookie of the Year 1. Geovany Soto 2. Joey Votto 3. Jair Jurrjens AL Rookie of the Year 1. Evan Longoria 2. Mike Aviles 3. Brad Ziegler This was a real tough one. Armando Galarraga, Alexei Ramirez, Joba Chamberlain and Jacoby Ellsbury are also deserving candidates. NL Manager of the Year 1. Charlie Manuel 2. Lou Piniella 3. Jerry Manuel AL Manager of the Year 1. Joe Maddon 2. Mike Scioscia 3. Ron Gardenhire Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheech Tremendous 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2008 If the Twins win today, I'm voting Mauer. Otherwise it's Pedroia. Can't figure out any other way to separate the two. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smartly Pretty 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2008 10 MVP choices is ridiculous. I'm doing 5. NL 1.Albert Pujols 2.Lance Berkman 3.Jose Reyes 4.David Wright 5.Ryan Howard AL 1.Dustin Pedroia 2.Joe Mauer 3.Evan Longoria 4.Cliff Lee 5.Alex Rodriguez Cy Young NL 1.Johan Santana 2.Tim Lincecum 3.Carlos Zambrano AL 1.Cliff Lee 2.Roy Halladay 3.Francisco Rodriguez Rookie of the Year NL 1.Joey Votto 2.Geovany Soto 3.Daniel Murphy AL 1.Evan Longoria 2.Joba Chamberlain 3.Alexi Ramirez Manager of the Year NL 1.Jerry Manuel 2.Lou Pinella 3.Charlie Manuel AL 1.Joe Maddon 2.Mike Scioscia 3.Cito Gaston Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheech Tremendous 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2008 AL MVP 1- Dustin Pedroia 2- Joe Mauer 3- Grady Sizemore 4- Josh Hamilton 5- Kevin Youkilis 6- Alex Rodriguez 7- Cliff Lee 8- Justin Morneau 9- Carlos Quentin 10- Carlos Pena AL Cy 1- Cliff Lee 2- Roy Halladay 3- Jon Lester AL ROY 1- Evan Longoria 2- Mike Aviles 3- Alexei Ramirez Manager of the Year 1- Joe Maddon 2- Mike Sciosca 3- Ron Gardenhire NL MVP 1- Albert Pujols 2- Lance Berkman 3- Hanley Ramirez 4- David Wright 5- Carlos Beltran 6- Chipper Jones 7- Chase Utley 8- Matt Holliday 9- Jose Reyes 10- Nate McClouth NL Cy 1- Tim Lincecum 2- Johan Santana 3- CC Sabathia NL ROY 1- Geovany Soto 2- Jair Jurrjens 3- Joey Votto NL Manager of the Year 1- Cecil Cooper 2- Fredi Gonzalez 3- Lou Piniella Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheech Tremendous 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2008 Is anyone else going to vote? This is typically one of the year's most popular threads. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Prophet of Mike Zagurski 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2008 I will but I won't name many players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2008 NATIONAL LEAGUE Most Valuable Player 1 - Albert Pujols, Cardinals 2 - Johan Santana, Mets 3 - Lance Berkman, Astros 4 - Hanley Ramirez, Marlins 5 - Chase Utley, Phillies 6 - Ryan Howard, Phillies 7 - David Wright, Mets 8 - C.C. Sabathia, Brewers 9 - Geovany Soto, Cubs 10 - Carlos Beltran, Mets Cy Young Award 1 - Johan Santana, Mets 2 - Tim Lincecum, Giants 3 - C.C. Sabathia, Brewers Rookie of the Year 1 - Geovany Soto, Cubs 2 - Jair Jurrjens, Braves 3 - Joey Votto, Reds Manager of the Year 1 - Lou Piniella, Cubs 2 - Charlie Manuel, Phillies 3 - Jerry Manuel, Mets AMERICAN LEAGUE Most Valuable Player 1 - Dustin Pedroia, Red Sox 2 - Joe Mauer, Twins 3 - Alex Rodriguez, Yankees 4 - Grady Sizemore, Indians 5 - Josh Hamilton, Rangers 6 - Justin Morneau, Twins 7 - Kevin Youkilis, Red Sox 8 - Ian Kinsler, Rangers 9 - Brian Roberts, Orioles 10 - Roy Halladay, Blue Jays Cy Young Award 1 - Cliff Lee, Indians 2 - Roy Halladay, Blue Jays 3 - Jon Lester, Red Sox Rookie of the Year 1 - Evan Longoria, Rays 2 - Mike Aviles, Royals 3 - Alexei Ramirez, White Sox Manager of the Year 1 - Joe Maddon, Rays 2 - Cito Gaston, Blue Jays 3 - Mike Scioscia, Angels Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brett Favre 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2008 AL MVP: 1. Grady Sizemore 2. Dustin Pedroia 3. Kevin Youkilis 4. Joe Mauer 5. Josh Hamilton 6. Alex Rodriguez 7. Carlos Quentin 8. Justin Morneau 9. Milton Bradley 10. Cliff Lee NL MVP: 1. Albert Pujols 2. David Wright 3. Lance Berkman 4. Johan Santana 5. Chase Utley 6. Carlos Beltran 7. Hanley Ramirez 8. Carlos Delgado 9. Geovany Soto 10. Matt Holliday AL Cy Young: 1. Cliff Lee 2. Roy Halladay 3. Mike Mussina NL Cy Young: 1. Johan Santana 2. Tim Lincecum 3. CC Sabathia AL Rookie of the Year: 1. Evan Longeria 2. Joba Chamberlain 3. Alexei Ramirez NL Rookie of the Year: 1. Geovany Soto 2. Joey Votto 3. Jair Jurrjens AL Manager of the Year: 1. Joe Maddon 2. Ron Gardenhire 3. Terry Francona NL Manager of the Year: 1. Lou Pinella 2. Jerry Manuel 3. Cecil Cooper Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smartly Pretty 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2008 Evan Longoria deserves more MVP looks, you guys. Statistically he's no where near the other guys, but he's the catalyst to the biggest turnaround in Major League Baseball history. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheech Tremendous 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2008 Evan Longoria deserves more MVP looks, you guys. Statistically he's no where near the other guys, but he's the catalyst to the biggest turnaround in Major League Baseball history. In what way is he the catalyst? Guy had a fine season, but it was the improvement of the pitching staff, including the acquisitions of Garza and Percival combined with the unbelievable turnaround of the infield defense that transformed them into contenders. On the offensive side of the equation, Carlos Pena rebounded from a slow start to be the team's offensive MVP. The Longoria love is sappy sportswriter stuff. He had an excellent rookie campaign and is a star in the making, but he was only one piece of the Rays puzzle this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2008 AL MVP 1. Joe Mauer 2. Dustin Pedroia 3. Kevin Youkilis 4. Grady Sizemore 5. Alex Rodriguez 6. Cliff Lee 7. Josh Hamilton 8. Justin Morneau 9. Ian Kinsler 10. Roy Halladay AL Cy Young 1. Cliff Lee 2. Roy Halladay 3. Ervin Santana AL ROY 1. Evan Longoria 2. Max Aviles 3. Armando Galarraga NL MVP 1. Albert Pujols 2. Lance Berkman 3. Hanley Ramirez 4. Chase Utley 5. David Wright 6. Carlos Beltran 7. Tim Lincecum 8. Jose Reyes 9. Chipper Jones 10. Nate McLouth NL Cy Young 1. Tim Lincecum 2. John Santana 3. Dan Haren NL ROY 1. Geovany Soto 2. Joey Votto 3. Jair Jurrjens Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vivalaultra 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2008 NL MVP: 1. Pujols 2. Berkman 3. Johan 4. Lincecum 5. Howard 6. Chipper 7. Utley 8. Wright 9. Soto 10. Lidge 3 pitchers? Really? NL ROY: 1. Soto 2. Votto 3. Jurj NL CY: 1. Lincecum 2. Johan 3. Hamels NL MOY: 1. Sweet Lou 2. Charlie Manuel 3. Cecil Cooper AL MVP: 1. Pedroia 2. Mauer 3. Sizemore 4. Youk 5. Quentin 6. A-Rod 7. Hamilton 8. Morneau 9. Bradley 10. Huff AL Cy Young: 1. Cliff Lee 2. Halladay 3. Mussina AL ROY: 1. Alexi Ramirez 2. Evan Longoria 3. Brad Ziegler AL MOY: 1. Joe Maddon 2. Mike Scioscia 3. Ozzie Guillen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gert T 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2008 Good to see the Pujols love on here. I hate hearing the "the MVP has to elevate his team to the playoffs" garbage. 86 wins on a team that I thought would be hard pressed to win 70 is definetely MVP worthy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
treble 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2008 AL MVP: 1-Joe Mauer 2-Dustin Pedroia 3-Grady Sizemore 4-Josh Hamilton 5-Milton Bradley 6-Kevin Youkilis 7-Alex Rodriguez 8-Nick Markakis 9-Carlos Quentin 10-Roy Halladay AL Cy Young 1-Roy Halladay 2-Cliff Lee 3-Joe Nathan AL ROY 1-Evan Longoria 2-Mike Aviles 3-Jesse Carlson AL Manager 1-Joe Maddon 2-Mike Scioscia 3-Cito Gaston NL MVP 1-Albert Pujols 2-Lance Berkman 3-David Wright 4-Chase Utley 5-Hanley Ramirez 6-Tim Lincecum 7-Jose Reyes 8-Johan Santana 9-Carlos Beltran 10-Carlos Delgado NL Cy Young 1-Tim Lincecum 2-Johan Santana 3-Dan Haren NL ROY 1-Geovany Soto 2-Joey Votto 3-Jair Jurrjens NL Manager 1-Charlie Manuel 2-Cecil Cooper 3-Lou Piniella Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawk 34 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2008 NL MVP Albert Pujols Chase Utley Lance Berkman Johan Santana Carlos Beltran Hanley Ramirez David Wright Tim Lincecum Ryan Howard Jose Reyes AL MVP Joe Mauer Dustin Pedoria Grady Sizemore Alex Rodriguez Josh Hamilton Justin Morneau Cliff Lee Kevin Youkillis Carlos Quentin Brian Roberts NL CY Young Johan Santana Tim Lincecum CC Sabathia AL CY Young Cliff Lee Roy Halladay Mike Mussina NL Rookie of Year Geovany Soto Joey Votto Jair Jurrjens AL Rookie of Year Evan Longoria Alexi Ramirez Mike Aviles NL Manager of Year Lou Pinella Cecil Cooper Jerry Manuel AL Manager of Year Joe Maddon Ron Gardenhire Mike Scoscia Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheech Tremendous 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2008 When are we closing the voting? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest C*Z*E*C*H Report post Posted October 10, 2008 Good to see the Pujols love on here. I hate hearing the "the MVP has to elevate his team to the playoffs" garbage. Someone who doesn't take his team to the playoffs doesn't deserve to win the MVP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheech Tremendous 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2008 Good to see the Pujols love on here. I hate hearing the "the MVP has to elevate his team to the playoffs" garbage. Someone who doesn't take his team to the playoffs doesn't deserve to win the MVP. But the Cards won more games than the Dodgers. It's sort of stupid to fault them for coming up short because they played in a really good division. Besides, who cares what Pujols says. Guy's been dicked out of 3 or 4 MVP trophies already. Can't we just give it to him for being the best player in baseball this year by a country mile? It's not as if there are any strong candidates from the NL playoff teams anyways. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest C*Z*E*C*H Report post Posted October 10, 2008 Hey, his words, not mine, that's all. I think he's probably the MVP, for whatever little that's worth. I've soured on my Carlos Quentin MVP talk for obvious reasons, that being that in his effort to show the fire and the passion like a certain erstwhile White Sock, he threw a temper tantrum and broke his wrist, resulting in a playoff push featuring DeWayne Wise. Different outcome if CQ is there. I generally like him, by the way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheech Tremendous 0 Report post Posted November 4, 2008 Might as well use this thread for actual winners too. I didn't bother to look up the schedule for announcements, but they should be starting any day now. In the mean time, Baseball Prospectus is rolling out the winners of their Internet Baseball Awards. These are voted on by those who frequent the site. American League winners were announced today. One would presume that the NL will come tomorrow. AL MVP : Dustin Pedroia 1. Dustin Pedroia 408 319 247 154 136 58 35 18 11 4 1390 12963 2. Joe Mauer 423 240 163 138 102 43 34 25 10 6 1184 11416 3. Grady Sizemore 160 187 176 154 112 76 57 38 28 12 1000 7871 4. Alex Rodriguez 122 130 157 151 153 115 82 57 34 33 1034 7284 5. Cliff Lee 131 123 138 132 113 69 66 50 29 13 864 6477 6. Kevin Youkilis 93 122 124 134 140 111 86 58 58 32 958 6391 7. Carlos Quentin 91 106 140 115 134 103 63 76 66 40 934 6124 8. Josh Hamilton 54 69 79 123 137 137 143 116 86 58 1002 5527 9. Justin Morneau 40 105 108 122 105 67 78 72 38 32 767 4824 10. Roy Halladay 16 75 62 91 120 68 61 71 46 20 630 3661 AL Cy Young: Cliff Lee 1. Cliff Lee 1164 281 24 7 2 1478 13750 2. Roy Halladay 292 977 92 19 7 1387 10283 3. Jon Lester 16 52 547 141 71 827 3753 AL Rookie of the Year: Evan Longoria 1. Evan Longoria 1264 118 11 1393 6685 2. Alexei Ramirez 51 359 210 620 1542 3. Mike Aviles 50 334 191 575 1443 AL Manager of the Year: Joe Maddon 1. Joe Maddon 1202 103 16 1321 6335 2. Ron Gardenhire 52 417 160 629 1671 3. Terry Francona 47 267 211 525 1247 Full article can be found here: http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=8281 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted November 4, 2008 The awards are coming next Monday, the tenth. One a day, with the MVPs finishing up on the following week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixrising 0 Report post Posted November 5, 2008 NL MVP 1. Albert Pujols 2. David Wright 3. Chase Utley 4. Manny Ramirez 5. Hanley Ramirez 6. Lance Berkman 7. Carlos Delgado 8. Aramis Ramirez 9. Ryan Braun 10. Chipper Jones AL MVP 1. Dustin Pedroia 2. Joe Mauer 3. Grady Sizemore 4. Kevin Youkilis 5. Alex Rodriguez 6. Josh Hamilton 7. Carlos Quentin 8. Cliff Lee 9. Francisco Rodriguez 10. Evan Longoria NL Cy Young 1. Tim Lincecum 2. C.C. Sabathia 3. Johan Santana AL Cy Young 1. Cliff Lee 2. Roy Halladay 3. Mike Mussina NL Rookie of the Year 1. Geovany Soto 2. Joey Votto 3. Jair Jurrjens AL Rookie of the Year 1. Evan Longoria 2. Alexei Ramirez 3. Mike Aviles NL Manager of the Year 1. Charlie Manuel 2. Lou Piniella 3. Cecil Cooper AL Manager of the Year 1. Joe Maddon 2. Ron Gardenhire 3. Mike Scioscia Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted November 5, 2008 I'm sorry guys, the more I read people here name Ron Gardenhire MOTY candidate, the less I take the entire thread seriously. The fact is, you guys just WON'T recognize the actual best manager of the Central this year. Let's see here: Ron Gardenhire- People here picked his team to compete for the Central, either finishing second to Cleveland or finishing first. Ended up finishing second on the 163rd day, basically living up to people's expectations. Has two MVP level players on the team in Mauer and Morneau. Both played most of the season. Ozzie Guillen- Picked to finish 4th or dead last in the Central. Ended up winning the division on the 163rd day, exceeding preseason expectations. Has only one MVP level player (a guy who just emerged as that this year) in Quentin. If Quentin was still around, do you guys seriously think Gardenhire would have had that chance to win the 163rd game? Doubtful. I'm not here to say that Ozzie should win the award, that award should go to either Maddon or Scioscia (sp?), but Gardenhire should be nowhere on that ballot if Guillen isn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smartly Pretty 0 Report post Posted November 5, 2008 People picked Minnesota to compete with KC for dead last. Gardenhire had a rookie centerfielder fill in for a perennial, traded away the best pitcher in baseball, and fielded one of the most inexperienced teams in baseball. You don't know what you're talking about. No one picked Minnesota to finish first, don't be ridiculous. Everyone picked Detroit or Cleveland. I understand why you'd pick Ozzie over Gardenhire, but to say that people picked the Twins to win the Central is some Straw Man bullshit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted November 5, 2008 I can't find the MLB predictions thread that I thought existed, but here's a thread that shows you how little faith people had in the White Sox: http://forums.thesmartmarks.com/index.php?...t=0&start=0 You can't tell me that the White Sox did not vastly outperform what people in that thread was expecting. And you're lying if you are actually trying to tell me that people were calling for the White Sox to place better than Minnesota. Flat out lying. But it doesn't matter. Ozzie could lead the White Sox to a 173-0 record en route to a perfect season and a World Series championship, and people will try to find a way to give the MOTY to Ron Gardenhire. Guy just gets more leeway for no reason other than because Twins compete year in and year out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheech Tremendous 0 Report post Posted November 5, 2008 I absolutely picked Chicago to finish ahead of Minnesota (read: http://forums.thesmartmarks.com/index.php?...hl=predictions), as did most everyone else. Most people expected Minnesota to be really bad, like last place bad after they traded Santana. The Sox overperformed expectations too, but let's not change history based on the way things ended up. Gardenhire was able to work five inexperienced pitchers into a capable rotation and turned underperforming prospect Carlos Gomez into a legit centerfielder. Nothing against Ozzie, but Ron Gardenhire did an excellent job with a really mediocre team this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheech Tremendous 0 Report post Posted November 5, 2008 NL Gold Glove winners: P Greg Maddux, Dodgers C Yadier Molina, Cardinals 1B Adrian Gonzalez, Padres 2B Brandon Phillips, Reds 3B David Wright, Mets SS Jimmy Rollins, Phillies OF Nate McLouth, Pirates; Carlos Beltran, Mets; Shane Victorino, Phillies Most of these look okay, with the exception of McClouth. He's one of the worst centerfielders in the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheech Tremendous 0 Report post Posted November 5, 2008 Baseball Prospectus' Internet Baseball Awards (NL Edition) NL MVP: Albert Pujols 1. Albert Pujols 1233 97 38 17 5 7 4 2 2 1 1406 18650 2. Hanley Ramirez 26 454 191 164 105 76 46 38 14 15 1129 8477 3. Lance Berkman 14 223 195 167 159 89 74 46 31 26 1024 6853 4. Chase Utley 21 105 196 155 149 101 85 54 45 16 927 5899 5. David Wright 10 93 163 152 171 118 104 63 50 28 952 5694 6. Chipper Jones 14 70 131 128 133 115 81 68 47 28 815 4793 7. Ryan Howard 53 116 75 80 64 44 38 28 35 24 557 3880 8. Manny Ramirez 32 63 72 65 79 50 40 42 49 51 543 3205 9. Tim Lincecum 5 33 61 77 94 61 70 50 44 22 517 2803 10. Ryan Braun 7 49 61 94 55 53 56 44 37 22 478 2732 NL Cy Young: Tim Lincecum 1. Tim Lincecum 955 335 56 15 4 1365 12224 2. Johan Santana 273 619 184 71 22 1169 8218 3. C.C. Sabathia 122 155 281 159 128 845 4315 NL Rookie of the Year: Geovany Soto 1. Geovany Soto 1178 63 17 1258 6096 2. Joey Votto 74 618 242 934 2466 3. Jair Jurrjens 26 302 324 652 1360 NL Manager of the Year: Lou Piniella 1. Lou Piniella 389 283 176 848 2970 2. Charlie Manuel 265 273 153 691 2297 3. Joe Torre 257 236 174 667 2167 Full results can be found here: http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=8282 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted November 5, 2008 I think those who discounted the White Sox gave them too little credit for their offseason moves, which hurt the club long term but gave them a short term boost. The perception is that Gardenhire did more with less. I gave Gardenhire the third place vote, but I do think Guillen is a fine manager. National League Gold Glove Award Winners 1B: Adrian Gonzalez 2B: Brandon Phillips SS: Jimmy Rollins 3B: David Wright OF: Carlos Beltran OF: Shane Victorino OF: Nate McLouth C: Yadier Molina P: Greg Maddux Nate McLouth? I'm sorry, but the notion that the Pirates allowed the most runs and doubles in the league despite the gold glove defense of their center fielder is ridiculous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmy no nose 0 Report post Posted November 6, 2008 I looked at the Fielding Bible plus/minus lists for center field. Beltran was second behind Carlos Gomez with a +24, McLouth was last with a -40. On their 3 year chart they had Beltran first at +59 and McLouth last at -49. I guess to win the Gold Glove you have to be either the best or the worst. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites