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Personally leaning towards Texas. I don't know enough about all the algorithms in the computer rankings to say where they're actually going to land.

 

*breathes a sigh of relief* I thought you were like a computer guy that was crunching the numbers and leaning towards Texas still being ahead in the computer polls.

 

When it comes to the different rankings does the point total in the USA Today Poll matter or does it just matter where you're ranked? Does it matter OU is only ahead by one point or is just being ahead period enough?

 

I'm wondering what happens in the Harris Poll. I really think after seeing this trend that Texas will pull ahead in the Harris Poll.

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Can we all just stop whining about ESPN being biased? Last week, it was Ray Bentley hating Ball State. Now it was ESPN kissing Texas's ass. WHO FUCKING CARES. Oklahoma did what they have to do. ESPN doesn't fucking matter.

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The coach that put Texas Tech at # 1 needs to have his voting priveleges revoked.

 

Also, from sportsline:

 

Oklahoma has the early advantage in its Sunday BCS showdown with Texas. It is a significant one.

 

The Sooners moved past Texas in the Sagarin Rankings, one of six computers used to determine the BCS standings. Jeff Sagarin was the first of the computer masters to post their updated rankings. Oklahoma moved from No. 4 to No. 1 in Sagarin while Texas dropped from No. 1 to No. 2.

 

What does that mean? Plenty. OU has a .0150 of a point lead over Texas now in Jerry Palm's CollegeBCS.com BCS standings estimate posted early Sunday. Texas came into Saturday with a .0084 lead over Oklahoma in the official BCS standings. The highest ranked team of the two in Sunday's BCS standings will play in the Big 12 championship game against Missouri on Saturday.

 

Win that and either Oklahoma or Texas could play for the national championship against the Alabama/Florida winner in the SEC championship game.

 

There is still a long way to go Sunday but momentum seems to be building behind the Sooners who made their final regular-season statement in a 61-41 over No. 11 Oklahoma State. BCSguru.com, another website dedicated to BCS analysis but with no input into the system, projected Sunday that Oklahoma would finish ahead of Texas.

 

Still to weigh in, the five other computer indexes and the two human polls that comprise the BCS -- the Harris and coaches polls.

 

Here is a very preliminary look by Palm at the top five posted on his site Sunday morning.

 

1. Alabama, .9839

2. Oklahoma, .9325

3. Texas, .9175

4. Florida, .8988

5. USC, .8107

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Ok so they're projecting that OU will be ahead in the computer rankings? And OU is ahead by 1 point in the coaches poll.

 

So if Texas pulls ahead in the Harris Poll (which i believe they'll do, especially b/c they're ahead in the AP) does that mean they can take the BCS or will that not be enough?

 

God how much longer do we have to wait for this damn Harris Poll and BCS?

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Ok so they're projecting that OU will be ahead in the computer rankings? And OU is ahead by 1 point in the coaches poll.

 

So if Texas pulls ahead in the Harris Poll (which i believe they'll do, especially b/c they're ahead in the AP) does that mean they can take the BCS or will that not be enough?

 

God how much longer do we have to wait for this damn Harris Poll and BCS?

 

Did you not see the part where OU jumped up from .0084 behind to a projected .0150 ahead. They made up the gap and doubled it already. There's almost no way the other computers won't fall in line. You're stressing out over nothing. If anything, Florida will be closer to Texas than Texas will be to Oklahoma.

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Ugh, I've got to head to work and won't be home until close to 9pm.

 

I can only hope I can check these boards and see Dama's ranting and hatred for Texas to know that the Horns are goin to the Big 12 title game...

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Oklahoma is clearly going to be ahead of Texas in the BCS. They are ahead in the coaches and will be ahead in the computer. So, unless a magic fairy sprinkles dust on their computers between now and 4:30 PM EST, Texas will be screwed in a way.

 

However, one advantage Texas may have: They won't have to play the extra game. OU very well could lose, and then Texas will move into the top 2 against the SEC champ. Then again, Texas already destroyed Missouri and OU probably will too.

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Ugh, I've got to head to work and won't be home until close to 9pm.

 

I can only hope I can check these boards and see Dama's ranting and hatred for Texas to know that the Horns are goin to the Big 12 title game...

 

I won't rant against Texas. If anything I'll be angry that ESPN campaigned for Brown and gave him face time during the OU game to do so. But if OU doesn't make it......they don't make it. It's pretty simple.

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It will be interesting to see who the two coaches were that voted Oklahoma #1 in the country, especially since they finished only 1 pt. ahead of Texas for #2.

 

 

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I still want to know if that point total matters, or if just the ranking itself matters?

 

BCS takes an average of coaches poll, harris poll, and computer rankings. BCS ranking is what matters. I don't know if this answers your question, though.

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I still want to know if that point total matters, or if just the ranking itself matters?

For the polls, only point total matters. They changed that a few years ago.

 

So OU being ahead by 1 point really doesn't matter too much in the grand scheme of things does it? It's basically a tie. If Texas comes out ahead by a few points in the Harris Poll then they could easily take this couldn't they?

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I still want to know if that point total matters, or if just the ranking itself matters?

For the polls, only point total matters. They changed that a few years ago.

 

So OU being ahead by 1 point really doesn't matter too much in the grand scheme of things does it? It's basically a tie. If Texas comes out ahead by a few points in the Harris Poll then they could easily take this couldn't they?

Highly unlikely, because OU will almost certainly be ahead by a decent margin in the computer polls. Texas would need to be ahead by a bunch in the Harris Poll, something on the order of UT #2 and OU #6.

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I have a huge news with major bowl implications....

 

Hawaii has accepted an invite from the Hawaii Bowl. Truly a shocking development as I really thought they'd take Louisiana Tech.

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I have a huge news with major bowl implications....

 

Hawaii has accepted an invite from the Hawaii Bowl. Truly a shocking development as I really thought they'd take Louisiana Tech.

 

For those would wondered last year why Hawaii got so much hatred, besides not really deserving a BCS bid, the fact that it seems like every year they get a home bowl game doesn't help people (or at least me) like them.

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I have a huge news with major bowl implications....

 

Hawaii has accepted an invite from the Hawaii Bowl. Truly a shocking development as I really thought they'd take Louisiana Tech.

 

For those would wondered last year why Hawaii got so much hatred, besides not really deserving a BCS bid, the fact that it seems like every year they get a home bowl game doesn't help people (or at least me) like them.

 

That and they've managed to get into a lot of fights in recent years.

 

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Harris Poll:

 

3. Texas 2575

4. OU 2569

 

Enough to put the Longhorns above the Sooners? 6 points? OU ahead by 1 in the Coaches?

 

According to Brad Edwards if OU is ahead by even a point in the computer then Texas would've had to be ahead by 31 points in the Harris to move ahead. HOWEVER, if Texas and OU end up tied in the BCS (which he thinks is very likely) then Texas just needs a 2-point margin in the Harris.

 

Fuck....I think Texas is going to Kansas City. Fuck fuck. Mack Brown's campaigning worked again.

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Those are last week's rankings. I'm pretty sure the BCS will make sure they don't get leaked before Fox announces them as most weeks I can find them by now.

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It'd be nice if they'd date that shit to avoid heart attacks!

 

Fuck, I really think Texas is going ahead. Edwards seems to think they'll be tied up in the computer rankings which will give Texas the edge.

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I was wrong, they've been leaked.

 

BCS Rankings

 

1. Alabama

2. Oklahoma 0.9351

3. Texas 0.9223

4. Florida

5. USC

6. Utah

7. Texas Tech

8. Penn State

9. Boise State

10. Ohio State

11. TCU

12. Ball State

13. Cincinnati

14. Oklahoma State

15. Georgia Tech

16. Georgia

17. Boston College

18. BYU

19. Oregon

20. Missouri

21. Michigan State

22. Northwestern

23. Pittsburgh

24. Florida State

25. Virginia Tech

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I was wrong, they've been leaked.

 

BCS Rankings

 

1. Alabama

2. Oklahoma 0.9351

3. Texas 0.9223

4. Florida

5. USC

6. Utah

7. Texas Tech

8. Penn State

9. Boise State

10. Ohio State

11. TCU

12. Ball State

13. Cincinnati

14. Oklahoma State

15. Georgia Tech

16. Georgia

17. Boston College

18. BYU

19. Oregon

20. Missouri

21. Michigan State

22. Northwestern

23. Pittsburgh

24. Florida State

25. Virginia Tech

 

This is accurate? I'm about to have a heart attack.

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I've tried to stay out of this argument but if it is indeed Oklahoma over Texas that is really, really wrong. No matter how you analyze it Texas beat Oklahoma. Now, my question is: What are the chances of a Oklahoma-Texas national championship game?

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