The College Football Thread 12/3 - 12/6

[Gert T 0]

Jason White over Larry Fitzgerald was a damn CRIME.

 

So was Bush over Young.

 

 

I strongly disagree with that one, especially since the Heisman voting was done 5 weeks before the game.

 

[Bored 0]

Gino Torretta over Garrison Hearst and Marshall Faulk. 'Nuff said.

 

News of note, Florida's offensive coordinator Dan Mullen has been named Mississippi State's new head coach.

[Psycho Penguin 0]

UCLA defensive coordinator DeWayne Walker might be going to SDSU.

 

On the Mullen thing.. Now, Florida fans have a built-in excuse if they lose!

[Edwin MacPhisto 0]

Jason White over Larry Fitzgerald was a damn CRIME.

 

So was Bush over Young.

 

 

I strongly disagree with that one, especially since the Heisman voting was done 5 weeks before the game.

Concur. That wasn't a crime by any stretch. Argument's there for both, and you probably have to give it to VY if you take the championship into account, but that's not how the Heisman works. It's still totally a sham, though.

 

Dan Mullen to Mississippi State: should be interesting to see what he can do there. My instinct is to say that a lot of his success at UF has been due to the obscene amount of talent, but then I remember that he's been with Meyer all the way back to Bowling Green, and really helped engineer that spread offense at Utah. Wonder if he's going to push the Miss. State offense in that direction as well.

 

DeWayne Walker to SDSU: Everyone says DeWayne Walker deserves better. Perhaps he does, since his defense played some good games this season and last, and can hardly be blamed for things like the Arizona State game, where UCLA gave up 4 defensive touchdowns (three pick-6's, one fumble recovery). Awful turnovers put them in bad spots all year.

[Hogan Made Wrestling 0]

Jason White over Larry Fitzgerald was a damn CRIME.

 

I don't really think so, and Chris Huston at HeismanPundit did a good job of explaining a major reason Fitzgerald didn't win:

 

http://heismanpundit.com/archives/10

 

A candidate simply cannot afford to look bad on TV in a significant game. A perfect example would be Larry Fitzgerald in 2003 against Miami. Fitzgerald had other reasons why he couldn’t win the Heisman, but bear with me on this one.

 

Pitt hosted Miami in what was probably the Panthers’ most important game in 20-plus years. The winner would win the Big East and, hence, an automatic BCS bid. Fitzgerald was already the beneficiary of an inordinate amount of hype and the Heisman seemed within range, given the blandness of the front runner Jason White.

 

Fitzgerald promptly went out on national TV and had 3 catches for 24 yards, getting clearly punked by Antrel Rolle and the rest of the Miami secondary. Game over, no Heisman for Larry.

 

My single biggest pet peeve when people start awarding Hindsight Heismans is changing the winner based on what has happened in the NFL since then (not saying you are doing this, but it's a theme that shows up frequently, White/Fitzgerald being a common example).

[Psycho Penguin 0]

No, I remember being mad that Jason White won it that night. It looks even worse in hindsight but I am aware it's a college award. I forgot that bad game against Miami, but he was being double covered on almost every play.

[Jaxxson Mayhem 0]

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news...p&type=lgns

 

 

Good for Tebow.

[Psycho Penguin 0]

Well, this probably means he won't win another Heisman now. Hopefully.

 

Still mad Crabtree's not even in NY, but oh well.

[MFer 0]

I think Bradford's taking the Heisman. It could go to Tebow because of his "intangibles" and the "FIRE & PASSION", but Bradford's been the most consistent the entire season plus he's leading an offense that's scoring points at a historic rate. I also wonder if some voters will have the mindset of not wanting to have Tebow win 2 in a row (you know how the media can be sometimes). McCoy finishes 3rd, continuing the string of hard-luck for Texas.

 

Also, Sam McGuffie's transferring from Michigan to somewhere closer to home, probably Texas A&M. There had been speculation on this for awhile, guess he's got family issues to deal with or something. Of course, many people will spin it as more evidence of Rich Rodriguez tearing down Michigan, but oh well.

[Urban Warfare 0]

This is pretty disturbing, a month away from a national championship...

 

Florida Gators Coach Urban Meyer continues to say Notre Dame is his dream job

 

This conversation might never die.

 

Four years after spurning Notre Dame to take over the Florida Gators program, Coach Urban Meyer called the Fighting Irish "still my dream job; that hasn't changed" on a South Florida radio show on Wednesday.

 

Notre Dame doesn't have a coaching vacancy, and the Gators are less than a month from playing for a second national title under Meyer.

 

"Once my kids are done, maybe some day I'll go coach there," Meyer told 560 WQAM. "I don't know that. That's way down the road. Being a father and being able to recruit the best athletes in America within a 5-hour radius of my home that's why I came to Florida. I thought we could have a great chance at success."

 

Full Article

 

I love Urban Meyer. What he has brought to this program in under 5 years has far surpassed even the most unreasonable expectations. But as a Gator fan, to see stuff like this, you really have to wonder where his heart is.

[Slayer 0]

Would you change your username if he bolts?

[Psycho Penguin 0]

Didn't he take the Florida job INSTEAD OF the Notre Dame job? I remember them basically thinking they had Meyer hired, then oops he's a Gator now.

[Maztinho 0]

Didn't he take the Florida job INSTEAD OF the Notre Dame job? I remember them basically thinking they had Meyer hired, then oops he's a Gator now.

 

 

Four years after spurning Notre Dame to take over the Florida Gators program, Coach Urban Meyer called the Fighting Irish "still my dream job; that hasn't changed" on a South Florida radio show on Wednesday.

 

 

I have to wonder if Urban's style would work at ND. When you think Notre Dame you don't think spread option, like someone was pointing out with Rodriguez's hire at Michigan the Big Ten/ND is more pro-style O.

 

The only real advantage I could see at ND would be the ability to in theory get the best players from all over the country just because it's ND.

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Auburn will hire Iowa State's head coach Gene Chizik as their new head coach. Really? That's the best they could come up with?

 

And that was fun end to the Richmond/Northern Iowa game.

[RepoMan 0]

Didn't he take the Florida job INSTEAD OF the Notre Dame job? I remember them basically thinking they had Meyer hired, then oops he's a Gator now.

 

 

Four years after spurning Notre Dame to take over the Florida Gators program, Coach Urban Meyer called the Fighting Irish "still my dream job; that hasn't changed" on a South Florida radio show on Wednesday.

 

 

I have to wonder if Urban's style would work at ND. When you think Notre Dame you don't think spread option, like someone was pointing out with Rodriguez's hire at Michigan the Big Ten/ND is more pro-style O.

 

The only real advantage I could see at ND would be the ability to in theory get the best players from all over the country just because it's ND.

If Myer could get the spread to work at Bowling Green, I think he could get it to work at Notre Dame.

 

I don't think Notre Dame has anywhere close to the appeal to recuirts it used to. They havn't been in the national title race for a long time, let alone to even win a bowl game. Plus ND's acedemic requirments are significantly tougher than the typical large football factory state school.

 

I'm guessing Urban it talking up ND to get a raise.

[RepoMan 0]

And that was fun end to the Richmond/Northern Iowa game.

 

With assbackwards coaching decsions by UNI. Trying to ice an PAT? Calling some homerun throwback nonsense when all they needed was to get into FG range from their own 40 yard line?

 

[JaMarcus Russell's #1 Caucasian Fan 0]

Notre Dame still has an appeal to many recruits, but they need to dump Charlie Weis pronto if they want to not end up like Navy. They need to come to terms with modern college football and relax some of their standards on dumb yet talented players and let those guys in. It only really takes one awesome year to get the top recruits pouring back in.

[Conspiracy_Victim 0]

And that was fun end to the Richmond/Northern Iowa game.

 

With assbackwards coaching decsions by UNI. Trying to ice an PAT? Calling some homerun throwback nonsense when all they needed was to get into FG range from their own 40 yard line?

 

Yeah that was a bizarre last play call. You've got a timeout, take a shot downfield. If you get 25 yards it's a hard, but not impossible FG. Or you can take one last shot at the end zone. The whole "lateral the ball around and pray" play doesn't work unless you're either Stanford or Trinity University.

 

With regards to McGuffie, I've actually heard Univ. of Houston more than A&M, even though the Aggies were a very close 2nd to Michigan when he first signed. If he goes to A&M he can replace Goodson, who's not expected back at RB. If he goes to UH I suppose he can be a split back or slot receiver, where he might actually be better suited due to an overall lack of size. Plus he could complete the track team the Cougars have at the offensive skill positions.

[Conspiracy_Victim 0]

Notre Dame still has an appeal to many recruits, but they need to dump Charlie Weis pronto if they want to not end up like Navy.

 

You mean going to a bowl game on results rather than name recognition?

[JaMarcus Russell's #1 Caucasian Fan 0]

Yes

[MarvinisaLunatic 0]

Was JR there yelling Boomer! every 3 seconds lol?

[Psycho Penguin 0]

BOOMER!

 

Well, I hate OU, but THANK GOD. At least the QB deserved it this time.

 

And wait, Richmond won? It was 20-7 when I saw. Damn. I can't wait to download it. Can't believe I missed the game.

[Damaramu 0]

I'm glad Bradford won the Heisman and all, but I was kind of hoping he didn't just because I didn't want the distraction or the Heisman curse leading into the bowl game.

[Psycho Penguin 0]

I'm glad Bradford won the Heisman and all, but I was kind of hoping he didn't just because I didn't want the distraction or the Heisman curse leading into the bowl game.

 

Are you fucking kidding me, dude?

[Damaramu 0]

I'm glad Bradford won the Heisman and all, but I was kind of hoping he didn't just because I didn't want the distraction or the Heisman curse leading into the bowl game.

 

Are you fucking kidding me, dude?

 

No........winning a national title is way more important to me than a Heisman Trophy and we've seen how the last few QBs (that don't play at USC) have fared in their bowl game.

 

I really don't see how that's a "You fucking kidding me?" moment or anything like that. It's been proven that winning the Heisman is a very large distraction when it comes to the bowl game. Sweet Christmas......

[Psycho Penguin 0]

Okay, so when OU loses, it's Bradford's fault for winning the Heisman, and if Florida loses, we can blame Mullen for going to MSU. Got it all figured out. We shouldn't even play this game.

 

Give me a break. History means nothing. At this point, it seems you can't be happy with anything. Oklahoma wins the tiebreaker, WELL ESPN HATES US. Oklahoma is #1 in BCS, WE'RE THE ULTIMATE UNDERDOGS. Bradford wins Heisman, THIS IS GOING TO BE A DISTRACTION. This shit might work if you're a Boise State fan or something, but you're a OU fan. Stop giving yourself stress over nothing.

[Conspiracy_Victim 0]

Okay, so when OU loses, it's Bradford's fault for winning the Heisman, and if Florida loses, we can blame Mullen for going to MSU. Got it all figured out. We shouldn't even play this game.

 

 

Longhorn fan: "Or you can just give the trophy to us we deserve it too! *whine whine bitch bitch*"

[Cheech Tremendous 0]

I really don't see how that's a "You fucking kidding me?" moment or anything like that. It's been proven that winning the Heisman is a very large distraction when it comes to the bowl game. Sweet Christmas......

That's one of the most retarded things I've ever heard. "It's been proven..." Really? That's news to me. Who proved it?

 

Bowl games typically match up two even teams. Therefore, the Heisman winner's team only has about a 50% chance of winning their bowl game. That's why recent Heisman winners have lost their last game. It has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that they received some stupid trophy one month before.

[Damaramu 0]

Okay, so when OU loses, it's Bradford's fault for winning the Heisman, and if Florida loses, we can blame Mullen for going to MSU. Got it all figured out. We shouldn't even play this game.

 

Give me a break. History means nothing. At this point, it seems you can't be happy with anything. Oklahoma wins the tiebreaker, WELL ESPN HATES US. Oklahoma is #1 in BCS, WE'RE THE ULTIMATE UNDERDOGS. Bradford wins Heisman, THIS IS GOING TO BE A DISTRACTION. This shit might work if you're a Boise State fan or something, but you're a OU fan. Stop giving yourself stress over nothing.

 

All I really see here are a bunch of capital letters and yelling. Look Penguin it's pretty obvious you're never going to agree with anything I say. And it's obvious you're going to have some point of contention with everything I say where you just throw out name calling or angry typing with the capital letters and such.

So let's just save the entire board a headache and have you go ahead and hit that little button that says "ignore user" next to my name. Go on, then you don't have to type in all capital letters and get annoyed with what I say and just start a big fight over nothing at all. So go ahead, hit ignore. It's a lot easier. Unless you just like to fight or argue or something.

[Damaramu 0]

I really don't see how that's a "You fucking kidding me?" moment or anything like that. It's been proven that winning the Heisman is a very large distraction when it comes to the bowl game. Sweet Christmas......

That's one of the most retarded things I've ever heard. "It's been proven..." Really? That's news to me. Who proved it?

 

Bowl games typically match up two even teams. Therefore, the Heisman winner's team only has about a 50% chance of winning their bowl game. That's why recent Heisman winners have lost their last game. It has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that they received some stupid trophy one month before.

 

Not news to me. I believe in the Heisman curse. Just like I believe in all the others curses or jinxes. I'm superstitious when it comes to sports. Sorry if you don't like that or something.