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Meh, most of the staff have cut back on seeking and destroying PBP's. We kinda delete them whenever they're stirring up shit like they did the last time before or something. Example, FromBeyondTheGrave was Choken One and I initially banned him for just acting like a total fuckin tard around here. He got to post for a while but started acting like a twit again in the WWE folder and ended up getting plunked from the board. But he'll be back. Long-time posters here know that TSM runs through Choke's blood. He's been, unfortunately, associated with this board for nearly 5 years. Sometime down the line though, he'll show up with a new name to post with. Some folks never seem to learn from their mistakes.
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Matt Hardy speaks on he and Lita splitting
Sass replied to Hunter's Torn Quad's topic in The WWE Folder
Gheyme checked out of TSM a long time ago. FromBeyondTheGrave checks out and isn't a PBP. Sorry FBTG. -
I'll just weep.
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I think RRR outdid the WWE with his own booking of the match. Throw in some Bellt-to-belly, T-Bone, Double-Underhook, and Floatover suplexes, and you have an interesting match. Neither guy can sell for shit long-term in an ongoing match but they can drop eachother with bombs. Well, only, really Angle is the one who will be dropping someone. Shawn doesn't even use a Vertical suplex anymore. I think he should at least bust out the Tear-Drop suplex to counter the Angle Slam. Talk about a blast from the past. Angle should bust out the moonsault for old time's sake to. It would be puzzling to see a guy 15 + minutes into a match hit a throwaway move but if he hit it then perhaps it might be of some value for Angle to use. This will probably be the MOYN like Jericho/HBK was at Mania '03. The ME('s) won't be able to hold a candle to this match. Both guys are going to kill eachother for our enjoyment in this match. That doesn't mean it'll be any good though automatically. Angle might break his neck mid-match or else Shawn's knee could finally give out on him. That would be the oppositie of the water cooler talk the WWE would want coming out of the match. Nice work Rudo.
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Vince is playing with some hot fire here. If this debacle is revealed as a work then expect Vince to lose a large chunk of his already dwindling audience. Matt, Edge and Lita are all *very* popular and have some of the larger fanbases around in the WWE. Practically everyone owns a computer today, including many wrestling fans, who happen to be fanactis for the people mentioned above, and if they get burned with such a callous and malicious angle meant to milk that fanbase then Vince might have just set his company back for years. Matt Hardy. Edge. Lita. Hardy has an online fanbase that is heavily devoted to him. Lita is one of the more well-known WWE divas and the pops she has gotten have always been some of the loudest on RAW. Edge is also very popular but not nearly as much as the two (former) lovers. This could be WCW levels of kayfabe-shoot nonsense. Except, the WWE is fucking around with some real fire with this type of situation. I doubt this is a work since this is just *too* elaborate and creative for the WWE powers to come up with. Plus, Vince has never really tried to go the con route with fans like Vince Russo and Kevin Nash have tried before via the internet. Vince doesn't like his workers checking out online dirtsheet stuff and I just don't see him trying to work fans online like this. He likes spewing his lies about history on TV where he can see himself giving the WWE side of the story. This story just doesn't fit that shoe. But, damn, this could have some serious backlash for the WWE if this mess is revealed to only be a work.
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I was really impressed by it and liked Morrison's X-Men run. It was probably the best run on a Marvel book since Garth Ennis's revival of the Punisher. That's some damn good company to be in. JMS wishes he could sniff Morrison's ink here. I didn't like how he tried to re-write the origin of Spider-Man. I understood why he needed to (example: Family Guy/Mayor West/toxic waste). But, I felt he got twisted with the origin after starting out strong with Morlun nearly killing Spider-Man. The guy was an excellent foe. It reminded me of the Black Tarantula from the end of the 1st series' end. But using temple, tribal stuff, and Zeke just became too much. Morrison started off his run with a great bang and it was up and down from there. But the high's were more than the low's. The book actually had some real super-villains in it and that's something of a rarity in many comics today. Morrison wrote a better Wolverine than Rucka has since taking over the writing reigns. Cyclops was also finally fleshed out and given some character development that he lacked for years. He's the red-headed step son of Captain America. He's such a stoic ass to people but now there's some shit on his shoe after the way he cheated on Jean Grey with Emma Frost. I'll also hand it too Morrison about Emma. He wrote one of the strongest female leaders since his run with Wonder Woman on JLA along with Mark Waid's Invisible Woman stuff. Rucka has wrote a better Wonder Woman than either guy has on JLA though. I always thought she had a shoddy reason for sticking around in Man's World. Rucka has given her one by making her a diplomat. That role fits her like a glove. For female sleeze and slink though, Ed Brubaker's Catwoman smokes Morrison's Emma Frost just because Selina didn't slut it up with a married man like Emma did with Cyclops. The girl didn't go around being a home wrecker and only has eyes for Batman. She's a keeper. I almost wish that Morrison would have gotten a shot at reviving Colossus. I think he could have wrote a better return story for him than Whedon ended up doing.
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The original Defenders would also be cool.
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FM's grandfather must have access to Vince's private tape vault.
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I wonder if York is stupid enough to take Woodson and give the Raiders the 1st pick of the draft. That'd be almost too epic.
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Matt Hardy speaks on he and Lita splitting
Sass replied to Hunter's Torn Quad's topic in The WWE Folder
Edge just became RAW's #1 heel. The WWE needs to book this pronto. They could even do it in kayfabe terms. The baby was really Edge's. Kane was just delusional and sick. Matt Hardy beat up the wrong guy and he teams up with Kane against Edge and Snitsky while Trish and Lita do a double-turn when they come back. Hardy gets his revenge on Lita by hooking up with Trish while Lita becomes the fuck piece for both Edge and Snitsky on shows. This is the daytime soap opera crap Vince has been *dying* to have on his shows since Vince Russo left in '99. Hell, he let the Undertaker's character get deconstructed by Vince Russo in '99 after "Mark" went too far and started getting into his character "too much" and even stalked Stephanie around until he kidnapped her. This is money. The promos cut by Edge and Matt would be insane. It would be the most "genuine" promos in wrestling since Ric Flair's late '98 return to WCW. This is the type of thing the WWE needs to run with. Not Daniel fucking Puder. Once Matt hooks up with someone else, the bad feelings with Lita/Amy/whoever will all subside. These guys know how to be pros in the ring. But the *slight* possibility about them snapping on eachother in the ring has that shoot factor intrigue that Lesnar and Goldberg had at last year's Mania. Edge's stock as a heel just rose. His stock as a fellow wrestler in the back has taken a plunge I'm afraid though. None of the boys are going to trust him until he retires. Lita could also totally rework her in-ring style to adjust being a heel, which could also help cover up her crummy in-ring work. She wouldn't need to do much in the ring compared to being a babyface so she could get protected. Paul Heyman probably made a mess in his pants after hearing about this. This sort of thing is so up his alley. Rhyno can feud with Edge to see who has the "better gore" in a best of 7-series that can culminate in the winner becoming the new "GORE" champion, getting a belt ala the Million Dollar belt. It'd be totally worthless but Edge could get heel heat like a bastard if he acted all snobby and cockish about holding onto a worthless belt. Somewhere down the line fans would get into it and cheer on anyone who stands up to him. Have GWAR do a new theme song for Edge and have them play live on RAW, with giant Johnson prop and white juice. The whole works. It'd be insane. How much longer is Matt going to be out on the shelf for? -
Jerry Richardson, a former player with the Baltimore Colts in the 50's, owns the Carolina Panthers. He knows a thing or two about football.
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I like how the Scarecrow's movie debut is going to follow how his BTAS debut episode went. Of course, his origin was explained in the middle of the episode. But I like the pacing.
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I'll leave Ric to someone with more capable hands than mine. I smell another insane asylum angle with Flair though if he was stuck on my RAW brand. Perhaps that's how he would get to retire. He gets sent to an insane asylum. How fitting for Slick Ric.
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Happy birthday little Welsh woman who no one here has a chance of ever meeting. You're now an adult, er. Enjoy your Welsh birthday, Welshy.
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I'd also team up Batista and Reigns later on and give them the "coveted" Demolition gimmick complete with new amped up music. Or hell, leave the original song since it still sounds like death is coming to some poor bastard. Both guys could probably benefit from not having to work singles matches in like 4 to 5 years (if they even make it for that long). It's about time the WWE re-introduces face paint into wrestling. The first match can have Reigns and Batista killing someone like La Resistance or the Bashams. This would be down the road, like when Batista is pushing 40 or so since both guys would be able to cover up for eachother in a tag team setting. Just make their outfits look cool and give them some riffy music that sounds hard. Those two guys look like genetic freaks, which was one of the main appeals with the Road Warriors when they debuted. That and killing teams dead in the ring by no-selling the shit out of piledrivers. Both guys are roughly the same size but they each look unique. Hell, Luther's already got the weird hair like the Roadies had. Dave can shave his head bald or cut it down like he had during his early SD! days as D-Von's church box collector.
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Isn't Edge's back-up just as efficient as he is? That's the word out of Indy I was hearing when the "EDGE TO MIAMI~!!!!!" rumors started to pop-up. Indy signed up all of their WR's first...Edge can get sloppy thirds.
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Send Orton, Batista, Edge and Christian to SD! along with Jericho, Benoit and Shelton Benjamin. Send the Undertaker, Kurt Angle, and JBL back to RAW! so HHH & HBK can work matches like its 1999 all over again. Let the old goofs take up RAW while the young fellas get their shot on SD! That's the type of stuff the WWE needs to do. It's time they get the locker room cancers out of the young guy’s games. The WWE will probably work out a deal with Spike and get SD! transferred over once UPN dumps the show. Jericho/Benoit/Eddy/Rey vs. Orton/Batista/Edge/Christian where all those guys become heavyweight champ at least once in 2 or 3 years. Benoit and Eddy are on their last pair of legs and they should at least get a double shot with the title after their reigns got botched up. Rey winning the heavyweight title *could* just be what the company needs since the X Division open weight matches took off really well in TNA. Rey is also probably on his last pair of juiced up little legs to so there's no telling how much longer the WWE can milk Rey dry. The other guys, if booked by *ugh* Heyman with *someone* filtering out his crap, could all succeed and be possible players if they get away from those insecure shitheads HHH and Undertaker. Cena/Ron Killings/RVD/Booker T vs. Benjamin/Haas/Reigns/Jindrak could be the midcard feud since all those guys would need some polish. Killings could be a great pick-up for the WWE if they paired him up with Cena. Give them some sort of Dr.Dre and Eminem type partnership deal where Cena takes on Killings as his protégé and that could give the impression that Cena is a semi important guy on the food chain. Plus, Killings could do all the work in tag matches while Cena hones his work like Batista did last year in all those Evolution 2 & 3 man tag matches on RAW. Dump Big Show, Bob Holly, Rene Dupree, and Kenzo Suzuki on RAW. I admit it, dumping Bob Holly onto RAW is a personal amusement switch by me since I think it would be hilarious if Holly tried to take liberties with one of the Big Cancers in the RAW ring. HHH, HBK, the Undertaker, Kurt Angle, JBL, Big Show on the same show in the upper midcard portion of the show would almost be a sick joke. But, if booked properly than those guys could net the RAW brand some "name brand" interest and either put up or shut up the vets about how they're the only draws while the wrestling oriented SD! brand can tout its wrestling as the main attraction instead of past "glory" and accolades. Make the shows look different. Regal, Eugene, and Rhyno can stay on RAW while Tajiri should be switched back to SD! pronto and take Hiroko as his own. The geisha matches alone with Hiroko and Joy Giovanni could be worth a look. I think Joy has the most upside out of all of the new Diva hoes since she has an athletic background and hasn't been outed yet as a Skinemax skag like every other newbie Diva has. Bradshaw's cabinet can accompany him to RAW since that's been the only thing that, personally, I've seen help make Bradshaw look like an upper card guy without any proper build-up for him winning the SD! title so many months ago. JBL has a posse. Keep'em around with him. My other sick joke would be bringing back Nash, Hall, and X-Pac to RAW so the WWE can have it's epic Clique/DX vs. WWE loyalists feud that would have done 10.0's for RAW back in '99. HHH/Nash/Hall/X-Pac vs. HBK/Kurt Angle/Undertaker/Kane could be a draw if everyone just put their giant egos aside and did the J-O-B for each other every now and then. This could draw based on name value alone. But, goddamn, the matches would be awful if these guys worked singles with each other so I'd just stick them all in multiple member tag team matches that could cover up or protect any of the glaring in-ring atrocities (HHH, Nash, and the Undertaker to name a couple). Hall/X-Pac vs. HBK/Angle or Kane could be entertaining if the DX guys aren't tanked before the match. Fuck Hogan. He should never be allowed back into the WWE. He ceased to be relevant after jobbing to the Rock and Brock Lesnar. His rub is gone. There are a *lot* of interesting things the WWE could do with this year's draft. Both brands have hit the proverbial wall and they need some major shaking up, particularly on the SD! side since everything went to shit for Eddy and his title run after Mania due to injuries and nasty company exits. The SD! show would be like wrestling nirvana if the guys could cut loose and be allowed to use more than 4 moves in a TV match. Give the guys who know how to work 10 + minute matches with *storylines* that have reasons behind them, unlike the throw-crap-at-the-wall booking Heyman used in late '02 and early '03 when the SD! 6 were working against each other for no other reason than to win the tag team belts, which should have been beneath those guys at that point. Since RAW is considered the WWE's pride and joy by Vince, then he should put all his "top" guys on the same show and show off whether or not he still has some promoter magic left in him and make those stiffs look like somebody's again. Put your money where your mouth is Vince and put the fear of Good GAWD~! back in the wrestlers and fans by booking this shit right and covering up the glaring problems and weaknesses each brand currently faces. Dump JR and King ASAP. Work out some sort of deal with Austin and Foley and see if they'd be willing to do commentary. Austin can't be tanked during shows and Foley needs to be informed ahead of time about what's happening so he can fill-in the gaps for fans during matches. Michael Cole and Tazzzzz are perfectly acceptable announcers at this point. Cole though needs to play more video games or something so he'll know the NAMES OF MOVES, which he screws up just as bad as the WCW announce crew use to. Tazz covers up for him way too often and it *shows* because of the awkward silence between the two after Tazz has corrected Cole. That's not kosher with fans who would like some sort of integrity and care with their announcing. Still with me? That's all I got. I'll probably think of more later on. But for now, this draft could be *the* most important one for the company considering how unstable their TV slots are and how fragile Vince's health is starting to look. This company needs to start booking for the long-term or things might be *very* ugly in the upcoming years. Oh yeah, Stephanie needs to be dumped as head booked or be made a "consultant" for RAW because she has absolutely no business booking a major wrestling company after her 5 shitty years have shown. That would be a huge step in the right direction.
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I thought Sandy was banned after asking for it? I still remember the time(s) it looked like he was going to kill himself.
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Did the Raiders get hosed here or is Jordan a worthy starter?
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The Cardinals are apparently going to be seriously looking at QB's Kurt Warner, Jeff Garcia and the recently released Brad Johnson to help out their young QB corps. So says Denny Green. Ugh...Green couldn't get shit done with a *really* good team like the 90's Vikings and now he's downgraded to the Cardinals. I pity Arizona fans more times than any other. To be fair, he did get a couple good years out of guys like Warren Moon, Rich Gannon and Brad Johnson before they all left the Vikes so maybe someone like Kurt Warner is who they should look at. Garcia can't throw deep and Johnson is washed up. Warner showed he still has some QB ability after his stint with the Giants ended. More upside with him.
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Perhaps if Hassasn had debuted a year ago, with build-up to Mania, and did not suck the meat missle in the ring then perhaps the WWE could have the next Iron Sheik on their hands. But they don't. Hassan is another rushed-up WWE goon who has no intriguing moves or vibrant personality to go along with such an act. On the topic of Hogan working with Hassan at Mania... What the fuck Hogan has *no* more rub to give. The interest in Hogan left after he jobbed to the Rock and got dragged around by the Undertaker on a bike. He has no more rub to give and Hassan's blue chipper (and green as grass) status would make him look *worse* standing in front of Hogan who is a wrasslin legend. Hogan jobbing to Hassan reminds me of Ric Flair getting petitioned by Dusty to lose the title to Rick Steiner in 5 minutes. Now, if that happened in the HHH and Batista match...then you might have yourself a match to remember...the monster Big Dave...the path of rage starts... Batista. Path of Rage. Tazzzzzz who? Just have Batista beat the tar out of HHH in less than 2 minutes and you have a star. Put the SD! title match on last since some people might actually *complain* about HHH getting jobbed out in 2 minutes to end the show. People would be talking about the match for years to come. And fuck HHH and his rematch clause. If they do wrestle again, Batista should pin HHH in seconds, less than a minute, and then *maybe* fans might start believing in the WWE again if HHH is slain decisively. He's already won the title 10 times for fuck's sake.
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This is gold: What a waste of money. Geezush, the Skins are so fucked salary cap wise come '06 and '07. I almost feel pity for the Skins fans here.
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Mo should have gotten to coach out for the rest of the season. Flip Saunders won't help. He couldn't get Spreewell and Cassell to hustle on the court and the Trailgangstas have more lazy sleeze wads on their team than the T-Wolves have. That could be ugly. Flip should take the rest of this season off for some self-reflection and to figure out a way to burn Kevin McHale's house down without it looking like arson. Whatta pal. I'll always like Mo after the way he helped that little girl finish the national anthem after forgetting her lines. That was a stand-up deal. As a coach, he was in over his head after the '00 Western Finals. Since then, it's been like all downhill for Portland with no upside. Missing the playoffs last season for the first time in nearly 20 years was one of the final nails in Mo's coffin.
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Interesting article about the Raiders salary cap: They don't appear to be in much trouble. Yesterday, I think it was MSN that reported this, Ray Buchanan, Frank Middleton, and one of the back-up TE's were supposedly cut. That would free up more room. I haven't found any confirmation yet.