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Yeah, had I said that then it really would have been stupid. We all know that is more than likely what the deal is. I said I think the chairshot is more likely to be the cause than Eddie having a relapse, just from what I've heard about him over the past few years.

This may sound stupid, but I think it's far more likely we'll find out the chairshot had something to do with this before we hear anything about him having a relapse.

With all due respect to Eddie, you need to just expect drugs and the such to come up in interviews given his past history. It's something you can't ignore, because the fact remains that it could have had to do with his death. I don't believe it was anything he did lately, but the long term effects of certain things and be damning.

Bradshaw said that while he was going through a divorce a while back, Eddie would bring him scripture to read to comfort him, as well as other passages from books, and he found out that Eddie had been doing that for a lot of the other guys. He also said that Eddie made his career by working with him over the world title. He said that he has Eddie to thank for getting him to reach the point of being a main eventer. That's very humble of him to say such as that. It was a short interview, but those are two of the main highlights. I recorded it, so I'll watch it again really quick and post what I missed: EDIT: -Talked about Eddie's history for a second -Wrestled Eddie about a hundred times -Wrestling Eddie was like grabbing hold of an electrical wire -Bradshaw had to be escorted by police quite a few times because the Hispanic fans hated him so much and loved Eddie so much -Eddie sensed something was wrong with Bradshaw, leading to giving him the scriptures and passages -Eddie asked those in WWE to give Bradshaw a chance -Exact quote - "Because of him, I own him my entire career." -Says Eddie's personal life was great lately, his family and mom recently moved to Phoenix -"Apparently died instantly, he still had his toothbrush in his hand." -Talked about the four years of sobriety -"It's an honor to talk about my friend Eddie." He obviously mentioned how much he misses him, how much he meant to the business, etc...

The more I hear people talk about Eddie, the harder this all gets. This is some great stuff Bradshaw is saying here.

Here is Bradshaw...

I still can't believe it either. It's been said over and over, but it's that same feeling that everyone else is having, you know the one...Eddie Guerrero is dead!????? It's just something that is so out there, that you just can't process the information. It's times like this that really makes all of us realize that we do indeed still look at these guys as if they are larger than life. Many of us claim not to do it anymore, not since we were kids, but deep down in all of us we all still think that same thing. Had someone told me 24 hours ago that a day later I'd be sitting here talking about Eddie f'n Guerrero being dead, I'd have said they were fucked up in the head. No way in hell could that be true. I woke up yesterday, and just as I always do, I got on the computer to check my email, refresh TSM, etc... When I first saw the topic, I sincerely thought that I was still dreaming, no shit. I sat here, still in a daze from just waking up, rubbed my eyes, and just started reading the entire thread. It actually took me a minute to realize that this was indeed true, and that I was not actually just dreaming this. You just never really, not really, expect any of the guys to pass on. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure many of us have thought at one time or another that it's going to be weird as the years go by and many of them grow older and die "normal" deaths, old age and the such, but most of us have never been able to think about the younger guys like Eddie passing, and especially not the younger guys like Eddie who are still on TV week after week after week. It's just not something any of us really expect A few of you may sit back and say we shouldn't be surprised, that it shouldn't shock us, and we should instantly be able to accept it, but it's not that easy, and the majority of you guys know just what I'm talking about. Right now, I'm pretty angry about the entire thing, while obviously still being upset. I just pray that it's discovered that he passed simply because his heart gave out on him for natural reasons...that does happen every now and then, with seemingly no cause. I don't want to have to read about it being drugs or anything (even if it's just from the effects of his past abuse) and I most certainly don't want to have to read any bullshit about the chairshot of all things leading to his death. Ugh, I still don't really know what to think about anything, by this point I'm just rambling on... Just, once again, God bless Eddie Guerrero, and thanks to him for all of the fantastic memories that I'll carry with me always. There are many things in wrestling that whenever I see them, I'll always think of him for as long as I live.

Wow, this looks like one stacked card. I can't wait to see the matches, and of course everything else that they do to remember Eddie. And why couldn't this be a card for a Wrestlemania? Think of it if not all of these were RAW vs. SD matches, and if everyone had time to prepare for the matches. Ken Kennedy vs. Val Venis (a fine Heat or open match) Big Show/Kane vs. MNM (an interesting match for tag straps) Angle vs Shelton (this could be the match of the night) HBK vs Mysterio (no tellin' how good this could be given time to think about) Divas Battle Royal (ya gotta put them on, transistional match) Simon Dean vs Eugene (a "fun" undercard match) Regal vs Flair (a match that could be more than solid) Cena vs Orton (perhaps the other match for a main title) Hardy vs Carlito (a decent undercard match) Cade/Murdoch vs LOD (a solid match for tag straps) Chavo vs JBL (have Chavo built up and it'd be fine) Cruiserweight Battle Royal (a very fun, possibly fantastic match) Chris Benoit Vs Triple H (main event for a title) *shrugs* I'd pay to see at least five of those matches.

Dave Meltzer just dived into HBK's book with Bret on WOL, just a heads up. I didn't know where to stick this, but there ya go.

Well Bret it on the show now, if someone posts a topic about it I'll post a few things of what I hear if you want. I wonder if Bret will have much to say about Eddie.

Of course, it'd doubtful that it has anything to do with it, but still. Just hearing someone, I don't care who, say that after knowing how I felt when I saw that chair shot...it just made me think "what if". I can't imagine what it would do to Kennedy either.

The Superstar commented that he hopes that the chairshot, since he said it was quite fucked up (caught more on the side or something), didn't trigger a delayed brain aneurysm or something along those lines.

I hope to fuck what they just said on WO isn't true. If it is...mother fuck. The chairshot WAS sick. I was on the phone with my cousin and I actually said holy shit, and commented on how stiff it looked.

I'm not ashamed at all to admit that this video brought more than a couple of tears to my eyes.

Has this one been posted yet? http://www.exclusivesteveknight.com/goodbye.html

Here is one more avatar I just made if anyone wants to use it:

This press conference is just heartbreaking stuff. To think, all of these WWE performers woke up this morning thinking it's business as usual, and then BAM. Now, instead of doing normal RAW and Smackdown tapings, instead of it being as planned, they are doing a tribute show to a fellow wrestler who just hours before was seemingly just as well as all of the others. This is a hell of a lot to go through for all of them, and my heart really goes out to everyone, from Vince McMahon to Chavo to everyone else in the company, no matter what their position. I can't imagine how it feels for them to be waking up thinking they are doing a normal RAW and SD taping, and then the plans being changed to a fucking TRIBUTE show for Eddie Guerrero. In the PC, Chavo states that he will be performing. He said Vince told him he could do whatever he wanted, have it be flying home, just staying in his motel room, or being on the show. Vince said that he's not forcing anyone to do anything on the show, and it's all voluntary.

Also, go here to download the press conference: http://rapidshare.de/files/7595474/Press_Conference.wmv.html

It is ironic that this happened soon after his "New Eddie Guerrero" gimmick started. If he had to go out, it does put a smile on my face, however slight, that he went out as a happy, friendly, caring, old time face.

I have been asking for a Benoit/Rey program for quite a while. This would be the perfect time to do it, starting with a finals match in an Eddie Guerrero memorial tournament.

I thought it was reported earlier that both RAW and SD would be shows like "RAW is Owen".

I'm glad they added both of those sets, they said they just "forgot to add them" before. I've contacted DDD about the TNA DDVs, so hopefully it'll be the same with them.

I told my father this earlier, and even he told me it made him feel woozy and cold. Eddie Guerrero meant a lot to wrestling fans of all ages.

Over the years, I've let it be known how I feel when certain wrestlers pass away. I've been mocked for it over and over again, but I really don't give a fuck. When a worker dies, even if they weren't one of the best of all time, it still gets to me for the simple fact that it's just different when it comes to wrestling. We see these guys on TV week after week, and while most are in character, it's just more "real" than the typical guy in the entertainment industry. These guys and gals are, more often than not, just playing a character that has at least some part of their real person included. So yeah, I'm not ashamed to say all of that. I'm a lifelong fan and I've followed the careers of most of the workers from the very start, or at least from the point where I was able to. This morning, when I first saw the title of this topic, I clicked on it fully expecting to flame the hell out of the OP. I mean, Eddie Guerrero...dead? There's no way in hell that could be true. When I read on, and noticed that I was wrong, it floored me. Seriously, it really did. I all of a sudden though woozy, I then saw the sig of Benoit & Eddie at WMXX and it made me think of that fantastic moment, and for the first time since Owen Hart, I actually shed tears over a pro wrestler's death. I only first started following Eddie's career when he hit WCW, but the moment he showed up ther, I was an instant fan. Over the years I dived into his previous work as well, so I fell like I can almost say I've followed his career since the start, even if I didn't see it live. I've read about him, watched the DVD, and have seen countless matches of his, from many different countries, all the way to ROH, ECW, WCW, and now of course WWE. This much, and it can be proven that I'm not saying this just because he has passed as I've stated it on the board quite a few times, is true. Eddie Guerrero is in my top ten list of wrestler of all time. I'm not talking about just active wrestlers, I'm talking ever, past and present. A list that includes Hulk Hogan, Ric Flair, Dynamite Kid, Tiger Mask I, Benoit, and more. As far as active wrestlers go, there are few guys who I looked forward to more than Eddie week in and week out. Even when the shows were horrible, and even when he was taking part in a horrible angle (Rey Mysterio's kid), I could still enjoy it just because he was such a fucking good worker, both in the ring and out. As far as active wrestlers in WWE, he was right around at #2 for me, right under Benoit, and there have been plenty of times where Eddie was the #1 high point of the week for wrestling, he was just that damn good. I've always felt he should be a main event player, even in WCW he showed signs of this. When he first won the title from Brock Lesnar, it was just an awesome moment since I've stuck by him for so long, and then the WMXX moment with both him and Benoit holding the world titles up together, it was just simply one of the greatest nights to be a fan of both guys. Hell, it was a great time and night to be a fan of wrestling period. One thing is for sure - Eddie will be missed, big time. Not just by us, the fans, but by WWE as a whole. Hell, the entire industry will miss him. He is a very vital part of WWE Smackdown right now, and soon, Vince and co. will realize this, if they haven't already. Máscara Mágica Black Tiger II El Caliente Uncle Eddie Latino Heat Eddie Guerrero... No matter what name the fans know you by, or whatever character you have portrayed, you will be missed, but never forgotten...never. RIP.

Don't forget the other Wrestling Gold DVDs that are not included in the set, like Night of the Legends and Wrestling's Future. I didn't know they have commentaries as well until just now when I went to check on it.