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New Big Rumor - Smashing Pumpkins.

Anyone know how much that fee is?

2. William Jennings Bryan 3. Adlai Stevenson

Oh yeah...its definitly going to be a war. Pac Man is wearing Reyes (puncher's) gloves to try again to knockout one of the toughest men to ever step in a ring. Morales is wearing Winners gloves for added defense against the inasanely brutal Pacquiao. I cant afford the 44.95 ppv price...but I cant wait for next Saturday when HBO replays it, with the live Arturo Gatti fight.

40. Hubert Humphrey

Late last night the betting odds shifted back to Manny Pacquiao, who is now a -120 favorite. -fightnews.com

Tyosn beat the 'legendary' TNT Tucker...

1.Barry Goldwater

Winner.

Al - Where are you getting this Tony Tucker love from anyway? He started his career 34-0-1 before beating Buster Douglas...the no-contest came due to a freak knee injury. Most of these fights were against tomato cans with losing records or, at best, lesser journeyman than Jesse Ferguson (who whipped Mercer and Obed Sullivan, and gave Rahman all he could handle in a loss). All but five of Tuckers fights before losing to Tyson took place before 1986...and if youre counting 81-86 than your omission of Holmes is even more bizarre. I mentions Nielsen as an example of how many fighters (heavies especially) are built up with big padded records against poor competition. Tucker is another example of that. Why are an old Holmes wins over equally old Weaver and Bonecrusher (and fat Bean) not counted...but Tucker's losses to guys like Seldon, Akinwande, and an aging Norris (all of which were before Tucker turned 40) excusabel. And you have to take the actual fights into consideration. You cant just brush off Holmes as having 'only beaten Mercer' when he nearly beat Holy, clearly should have gotten the decision against world champ McCall, and got a gift against the very good Mo Harris. Would you say Pernell Whitaker was a lesser fighter due to his 'loss' against Ramirez and 'draw' vs Chavez?

If your going to put Tony Tucker at #8 than you have to include Larry Holmes. Holmes (since 1-1-86) 21-5 Wins - Ray Mercer, Jesse Ferguson, some decent journeyman, and fellow oldtimers Mike Weaver and Bonecrusher Smith down the stretch before beating Butterbean. I wont count his 'win' over Mo Harris (a very good quick fighter with a very deceptive record). Losses - Spinks (really close call), Tyson (two year layoff vs. a monster), Holyfield (good fight that made Holmes look he could take it at times), Oliver McCall (pretty bad decision here), and sadly Brian Nielsen. Tony Tucker (since 1-1-86) 27-7 Wins - Buster Douglas (big ko), Orlin Norris, Oliver McCall, Frankie Swindell and alot of tomato cans. Losses - Tyson, Lewis, Bruce Seldon, Henry Akinwande, Orlin Norris, Herbie Hide,John Ruiz Brian Nielsen was almost 49-0 himself...

Lyndon Johnson was among the more pathetic Presidents.

I think the judges were the only people on Earth that saw Briggs beat George Foreman. That fight was his best on the second career, imo. I also think that Foreman would beat Holyfield 6 out of ten times. Big George is the 5th best heavy of the last 20 years. I think that Larry Holmes has to be ahead of Ray Mercer...Larry totally schooled him. Al, how do you think the upcoming Rahman-Toney fight could effect a top20 list?

Going to several Morrissey shows is a far more interesting life then most people lead...

Is that interview being conducted in an elevator?

6'1 3/4. I was kinda close. All apologies.

The only cool thing I do is piss myself.

Expected by whom?

Heres the card for the Erik Morales-Manny Pacquiao rematch this Saturday. The first fight was a classic and would have been FOTY had it not been for Coralles-Castillo. The undercard isnt nearly as strong for this one unfortunately, but the main event is pretty much another guranteed FOTY candidate. Any predictions? Im taking Morales with another decision in the main...Castillo, Zertuche, and (obviously) the rising Lopez win underneath. 12 Rounds - Super Featherweight Championship: Erik Morales 48-3, 34 KOs vs. Manny Pacquiao40-3-2 , 31 KOs 12 Rounds - WBA Super Flyweight Championship: Martin Castillo 29-1, 16 KOs vs. Alexander Munoz 28-1, 26 KOs 10 Rounds - Middleweights: Marcos Primera 19-12-2, 12 KOs vs. Jose Luis Zertuche 17-2-2, 13 KOs Plus Special Attraction: Juan Manuel Lopez 8-0, 8 KOs vs. TBA

Dont. You'll only seem more idiotic.

I think "terrible' Tim Witherspoon can be considered a top20 heavy of the last 20 years. His WBC title reign was more than 20 years ago but he did win the WBA version in Jan '86 (W15 Tony Tubbs) and defended against Frank Bruno (tko 11) before being Bonecrushed. Spoony spent the next 10 years with a prolonged comeback of 19 fights (18-1) before beating Al Cole and Jorge Luis Gonzalez at Msg in '96. After that he was beaten by Ray Mercer and lost most of his important fights from then on. He deserved one more title shot in the mid 90's (Holmes and Foreman had about a half dozen chances) but never got one.

Modest Mouse

Finally someone else mentions Arn Anderson. Amazingly somebody listed the Ultimate Retard but not Double A. Pretty sad.

Agreed. You know there are strange parrels between Creed and guns and roses. Human Clay is considered a joke and their first cd was somewhat decent...Appetite is widely regarded as one of the 5 or 10 best rock records of all time, and one of the best debuts by any band ever. UYIs were among the most hotly anticipated releases in popular music ( and despite being a bit overdone it lived up to its hype)...Weathered is for people who prefer their 'music' on a spoon and down their throats. Axl Rose has a mystique, not necessarilly always good (riots ensued, domestiv violence, etc) but hes as close to a Jim Morrison as theres been in 30 years. Scott Stapp gets retardly drunk at televised poker games. Axl would jump into a crowd to pound on some idiot with a camera...Stapp got his ass kicked by 311. One band was a shlocky cheesy lame radio invention...the other was a bunch of kids that climbed out of The Jungle and made the entire planet listen.

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