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True. Of course maybe, just maybe, they could try to build someone else up, too. My main point is that I don't "hate" Cena, I'm just somewhat sick of him. I can completely see why he gets the UBER push (Money!).

See Steve Austin, 2001. True, but that's why I added the young part. With Austin they ran out of ideas. I think a downfall into evil and the subsequent face turn could be amazing if done right. And Cena is young enough to recover if it went wrong.

Don't. Stop. Believing. No, really. Please stop. And before I go, isn't "South Detroit" in fucking Canada? And also, Total Eclipse of the Heart. I leave my bar everytime that fucking song comes on.

I don't hate John Cena per se, but, the way he is booked is completely unlikable. It's beyond stale. I actually think he is being stunted by being such an uber-Face that it could hurt his long term legacy. A heel turn would keep him fresh and add new edges to his character. In fact, if pulled off right a heel turn could lead to a more believable Face status down the road. He's young and doesn't appear to be going anywhere, so, why not switch it around for a bit?

Fake Wrestlers Pinned Down By State's Department of Licensing By Nick Wingfield, The Wall Street Journal Interactive Edition SEATTLE -- Among the enduring questions of modern times is whether professional wrestling is real or pretend. Washington-state bureaucrats have opened a new chapter in the debate by ruling that wrestling is a real form of sport even when it consists of a man in a banana suit performing fake kung-fu moves in a tavern. A group called Seattle Semi-Pro Wrestling has for six years packed bars around this city with its lampoons of World Wrestling Entertainment, the pro league. Cast members have included a husky everyman who likes to tick off environmentalists by boasting about chopping down trees, and Ronald McFondle, a raunchy rendition of a clown character, who finishes off his opponents with a lewd gesture ( Just so you know...it's the SHOCKER). They grapple on foam pads placed on stages in bars, not in rings. Washington state's Department of Licensing takes the high jinks seriously. Earlier this month, it classified the performances as "sports entertainment." The ruling means the spoofers must meet safety regulations and could force the league to post a $10,000 bond, station medical personnel at events and buy a regulation wrestling ring. The league, "SSP" for short, says those costs would bust its shoestring budget. It says it will appeal the ruling but has halted matches for now. The Seattle league calls itself "fight cabaret" -- in essence, theater with singlets, suplexes and sweat, as unworthy of regulation as a Shakespeare play. "It's a bunch of grown men and women in costumes pretending to be professional wrestlers," says David Osgood, the league's lawyer. "It is to wrestling as 'West Side Story' is to actual gang relations." The licensing department says it doesn't care that SSP is faking it. State laws define a "wrestling show" or "wrestling exhibition" as "a form of sports entertainment in which the participants display their skills in a physical struggle against each other in the ring and either the outcome may be predetermined or the participants do not necessarily strive to win, or both." Authentic pro wrestling "is just as much theater as these guys claim to be," says Christine Anthony, a department spokeswoman. The WWE is considered sports entertainment and needs a license to perform in the state, she says. A WWE spokesman says its matches are scripted, with a predetermined winner and loser. He declined to comment on the Seattle league. The Seattle league debuted in 2003 as an "art joke" to make fun of pro-wrestling antics, says Nathaniel Pinzon, a bouncer at a gay karaoke club who started it with friends. There's little in common between the physiques of muscular WWE wrestlers and those of SSP members, many of whom are under 6 feet tall and don't appear to spend much time in the gym. SSP wrestlers are volunteers who don't earn money from performances. SSP performers do mimic the choreographed violence of pro wrestling, clobbering each other with folding chairs, hopping from ladders onto opponents and pile-driving them headfirst into the floor. The league used to encourage spectators to pelt wrestlers with empty beer cans but stopped when unruly patrons threw full cans; the league began passing out plastic balls, instead. There was usually a cover charge to get into bars where its matches were held, typically between $5 and $8. The league says most proceeds go towards costumes and props. Most SSP performances are more racy, political or downright absurd than pro wrestling. Mr. Pinzon wrestles as the vainglorious Deevious Silvertongue, dressed like a glam rocker in a satin outfit and cape -- a "mix between Liberace and David Bowie," he said as he tried on the costume in the dingy backroom of a bar near the Seattle Space Needle where SSP has performed. The smackdown by the state started because of a grudge match between the league and The Banana, played by a wrestler named Paul Richards. Mr. Richards, a driver for a mail-services company, says he left the league in April because of plans to sideline his character. The league had named Lucas Keyes, a videogame programmer, as the Second Banana to be a sidekick to The Banana. In a match, the league says it planned to have the Second Banana betray The Banana, defeating Mr. Richards's character. Mr. Richards says he quit rather than lose top-banana status. After he says he heard that members were making fun of him behind his back, Mr. Richards says he took retribution by emailing the licensing department in June and telling officials he believed SSP was violating the law. "The guy in the clown outfit kept running his mouth," says Mr. Richards, 40 years old, who says he enjoys playing a real-life "heel" -- the wrestler that audiences love to boo. The clown in question is Josh Kuntz, who plays Ronald McFondle, a perpetually mock-soused sendup of Ronald McDonald who has eyebrows shaped like the McDonald's arches and wears red high tops. Mr. Kuntz says he never spoke ill of Mr. Richards. "None of us knew he was upset," says Mr. Kuntz, 31, who works as a deejay. A spokesman for McDonald's Corp. said he wasn't aware of the Seattle sendup. "There's only one Ronald McDonald," he said. Mr. Richards says he took wrestling more seriously than other league members and had little interest in the clowning. The SSP league is "a living cartoon," says Mr. Keyes, the other banana. "The Banana is a joke," says Mr. Keyes, 28, whose character evolved into the Kung Fu Banana, who boasts of his potassium power. "It's like you're given a role in 'Dumb and Dumber' and try to act like Sidney Poitier." In a document containing its March 6 ruling, the state licensing department said two unnamed Seattle police officers reported on an August match. "Although the physical contact was light, there were acrobatic stunts such as the performers jumping into the air approximately four feet and landing on the neck of another performer," one of the officers wrote in his report. "There were flips, kicks and face slapping all in the show." Later, an SSP performer got onstage and boasted: "I'm telling you and the whole world this wrestling is not fake. It is for real!" according to a report from one of the officers. Mr. Osgood says the performer's comments were part of an "'it's all real' schtick." In the league's appeal, Mr. Osgood says he'll argue that Washington's ruling violates First Amendment free-speech rights. He says the move threatens everything from jello wrestlers to actors engaging in a sword fight in "Hamlet" with burdensome regulations. "We're in 'Looney Tunes' territory here," he says. Write to Nick Wingfield at [email protected] It was also a topic on Fox NewsFox Newsi I am the lead announcer for this, and I tell you this as a life long wrestling fan....this is local (bad) theater...it's funny...and it is a thing we started to support friend's local bands....and then it got bigger. I was hesitant to post this...but...I think some of you will find the irony of what we do. Thanks for reading.

Some of my favorites from the 90s that I didn't see: "Ditty" by Paperboy "I Like the Way (The Kissing Game)" by Hi-Five "Plowed" by Sponge http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHjdmNLs0go AND FUCK THE FACT THAT THIS WAS NOT ON THE "LIST"... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obXsstZWDz8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHjdmNLs0go

Thank you!

Mine did the same thing. Anyway I can change this? Sorry...I know...7 years as a lurker you'd figure I'd know these things by now. Hell, I didn't even know my aol address was still on file. I haven't used it in YEARS.

No order except the first one, of the top of my head things I can clean my apartment to, drive to, smoke to, drink to, and fuck to: DARKNESS ON THE EDGE OF TOWN-Bruce Springsteen Vitalogy-Pearl Jam Revolver-The Beatles Grace-Jeff Buckley New American Language-Dan Bern Fire!-Electric Six What's Going On?-Marvin Gaye My Favorite Things-John Coltrane Back In Black-AC/DC Otis Redding-Sitting on the Dock of the Bay

No, I like this. Let Koslov fight the winner of JBL/HBK, then throw more people in---and end this "Round Robin" sort tournament with Shawn winning because he wants this more. Make beating Taker that important. I like it.

I know these guys quite well, and have worked a few shows with them (I am an announcer/performer for a Fighting Cabaret (Long story, we are not WRESTLING, even if the state of Washington thinks so and is trying to shut us down. Just look up Seattle Semi Pro Wrestling). And Bacon Salt/Baconaisse is amaing. Go to their website and there are a shit ton of recipes that rock. Just last night after No Way Out, we ordered plain cheese pizza and just sprinkled Bacon Salt on it. And their promotions are great...I'll post their new ad campaign here when I get it (It's a really funny picture). In fact, that's how I got tickets to the show: I'm Bacon. Audio From Kofi and Mickie vs. Bacon.

With Orton's nearly "tweener" act lately, does he have what it takes to parlay it into "so bad he's cool=face" level? The guy's T-Shirt is selling fast (according to 411mania.com), his reactions are huge, and a big win at Mania against a huge opponent could be great. I'd love to see a heel "alliance" wherin Stephanie sides with Randy, who in turn reaches out to form a RKO reunion, with Edge and Vikki running SD and Steph and Randy running RAW. Making life for HHH and whatever face is on RAW living hell. It'd be an interesting post-WM storyline.

SEATTLE SEAHAWKS Definite: Walter Jones Maybe: Tatupu with a few more good years, maybe a ring. Former player not eligible yet: Shaun Alexander. A longshot, but, did score 100 TD's, and an MVP. Also, Holmgren ain't a player...but he's a lock for Coach eventually. SEATTLE MARINERS Definite: Ichiro. I am saying definite because once he gets past 2500 hits, it's a done deal. Hell...if he makes it to 3000 he might be first ballot. Former players not eligible: Edgar Martinez. Not his fault they didn't play him full time until he was 28. Best DH ever. And, a Seattle institution. Also, Ken Griffey Jr will go in as a Mariner I think. Jamie Moyer is making a run at a Vet's Pick. Randy Johnson won't go in as a Mariner, I think. He might though. CHICAGO CUBS Definite: Eh. This all depends on if guys like Ramierez, Lee, and Soriano can win a ring. If they do, punch their tickets. I think a Cubs World Series win would give a Cubs bump to the standouts on the team. And I would like to add, that he hasn't played for them in over 30 years, but, god dammit, put RON SANTO in before all of his limbs are removed. Do it already.

1. This is two years in a row the Best Song from the Golden Globes DID NOT EVEN GET NOMINATED: "Guaranteed" Eddie Vedder, "The Wrestler" Bruce Springsteen I am a HUGE FAN of both artists, but, even objectively I cannot fathom how neither got NOMINATED. Especially Springsteen, since a)brings in viewers; and b) the song is the perfect companion to the movie. 2. Also on the songs, "Rock Me Sexy Jesus" was eligible? Man...they should have had fun with it and done both the "Sarah Marshall" song and "Rock Me Sexy Jesus". I would have watched the Oscars for both of those alone. 3. On that Top Ten link, how did two critics put "Twilight" in their list? What? What? I feel bad for anyone subjected to those reviews. 4. Fuck The Reader. I saw it. "Yawn". Although, Kate naked was a great thing.

#1-5485 Everyone else. #5486: Marvin In all seriousness: Bobbarron Fazzle JAxl UYI Kinetic and Dandy

I put him in there as hope that he would take some big spots. Sort of a "If I do this, they might keep me" , I agree, it would be funny to see him introduce himself. Especially if there is someone every week leading up to it who not only forgets his name, but, keeps calling him by the wrong name. And I think some of it makes sense. I don't work for the WWE, so, I was just throwing spaghetti at the wall. OH...AND MERRY RICKEY HENDERSON'S BIRTHDAY EVERYONE!!!!

Have Cena talking shit about winning against whoever at the Rumble...and have him compare himself to past legends...including Austin. Have Cena be a dick leading up to No Way Out, and have Austin stun him. This holds up the RAW title. The JBL feud leads to JBL getting HBK off RAW, but, HBK can still show up on Smackdown challenging Hardy for Smackdown title. Then, announce the RAW title will be on the line in a MITB match. Card: ME: Cena/Austin Taker/HHH Hardy/HBK (Smackdown Title) CM Punk/Jericho/Orton/Edge/HBK/Mysterio/(returning)RVD MITB former champs for RAW title Bourne/Matt Hardy(ECW) Beth/Trish (Women's Title) The rest can be filler...right there I have enough matches for a solid Wrestlemania....or...if you want to keep MITB as a starmaking event... Cena/Austin Taker/HHH (Smackdown title) Orton/Hardy (RAW title, after Hardy wins Rumble and goes after RAW title) Mysterio/Bourne vs. Kofi/Punk vs. Miz/Morrison TLC for Tag Titles Jericho/HBK/Edge/Kennedy/Kendrick/Shelton/Knox/Ziggler MITB Matt Hardy/RVD (ECW) Beth/Trish Cena, Austin, HHH, Taker...they are all big enough to be above a TITLE match. This means casual fans pay for the chance to see the big guys, and you can elevate people at the same time. You could come out with so many different things afterwords.

Hey...I want to try something...sorry if I am in the wrong folder...but..I need this for my next show...this is a joke...MODS...move it if it is in the wrong place... WHY HAS WILL SMITH NOT COME OUT OF THE CLOSET YET? Because his PARENTS JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND.

Crap...forgot about The Venture Bros....'course I forgot about animation all around. Ugh, shut up? Yeah. I talk alot, don't I?

Oh...I'm sorry. Did you have your own opinions, or, is that all you had to add to the discussion? Look...I don't think it is THE GREATEST NIGHT IN OUR SPORTS HISTORY..but...as far as big blockbuster movies...it was damn near perfect. And, it was a weak year overall. Literally, my opinion, I could not find a proper female performance to give kudos to. There were some really good movies, Dark Knight was the one that I will watch the most down the line. I like Batman. I like Nolan. It was MY opinion, as is everyone's opinion on here. So...if all you have to add is a one line bitch about someone's likes, then, great...you be that guy. Personally, I like coming here and seeing what others have to say. Because sometimes, it leads to finding something great I was not aware of.

FILM OF THE YEAR: THE DARK KNIGHT In no way or shape did this disappoint me at all. After all the hype, it came through. I will be watching it forever. Runners Up: Wall-E, Frost/Nixon, Forgetting Sarah Marshall, Milk, In Bruges SURPRISE FILM OF THE YEAR ROLE MODELS I thought it would be crap, but, it was funny and charming. Paul Rudd is amazing. Runners Up: Harold and Kumar Go To Guantanamo Bay [b]WORST FILM OF THE YEAR: TWILIGHT[/b] What. A. Turd. I am so pissed I watched a stream of this. Wasted my time to see what the hype was. Stupid me. Runners Up: Sex and the City, High School Musical 3 DISAPPOINTING MOVIE OF THE YEAR: HELLBOY 2 After Pan's Labyrinth, I thought this one would blow my mind. It just did not work for me. Runners Up:Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, Punisher:WarZone BEST ACTOR: HEATH LEDGER--THE DARK KNIGHT I don't care about Main or Support designations. This is an iconic performance. Walking away from the hospital and the pencil trick alone made it my pick. Runners Up: Frank Langella (Frost/Nixon), Sean Penn (Milk), Aaron Eckhardt (The Dark Knight), WALL-E(I know, I know...) BEST ACTRESS: ELIZABETH BANKS--W, ZACK AND MIRI MAKE A PORNO, ROLE MODELS I really did not see one film this year where a woman stood out. But, she played her role perfectly in all of these. I have not seen any of the Kate Winslet movies coming out, but, she would probably win if I had. MOST ANTICIPATED MOVIE FOR NEXT YEAR: THE WRESTLER I don't get to see it until January 9th. I am there. Also: Terminator IV, Watchmen MOVIE MOMENT OF THE YEAR: HEATH LEDGER'S JOKER AND THE HOSPITAL SCENE. Awesome. TELEVISION BEST DRAMA OF THE YEAR: BATTLESTAR GALACTICA God damn. This season ruled. I cannot wait for the finish. Runners Up: The Shield, Burn Notice BEST COMEDY OF THE YEAR: IT'S ALWAYS SUNNY IN PHILADELPHIA I cannot begin to describe the light in my life that is this show. Runners Up: How I Met Your Mother, The Office BEST TELEVISION STAR, MALE: TIE! CHARLIE DAY AND NEIL PATRICK HARRIS In a right and just world, there would be a crossover show where Barney and Charlie hang out. It would be legen...wait for it...dary. BEST TELEVISION STAR, FEMALE: TIE! KATEE SACKOFF AND COLBIE SMOLDERS Why? Because they rock their roles, and I want to become a Mormon and marry them both. Although hot sex would do. TV MOMENT OF THE YEAR: BECAUSE I CUT THE BRAKES! WILD CARD BITCHES! YEEEEEEEEEEE HAWWWWWWWW! I'm sure I am forgetting tons.

Or maybe run an angle where we find out two members of the roster are related...tease who it could be...and then BAM! Snitsky and Noble. Comedy gold.

In all seriousness...with Vince and Hogan at it again...Vince forgiving Savage and giving him royal treatment seems credible. And really petty. But, this is Vince we are talking about. Shit...make it happen!!! And let him perform "Be A Man"!!! (Still plays in my bar all the time!)

Funny you mentioned Tim Robbins. He apparently had problems voting today. Weird. I will be at the bar in one hour. Let's hope it's a happy drunk night!

For What It's Worth-Buffalo Springfield