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Fine. Since I have the ability to read minds, I'm pretty sure she's looking at you and thinking: "What a douche"

So Sayeth this stud. http://hometown.aol.com/nyitalian412/image...es/p1010021.jpg Damn. I know. I know. I forgot the beer mug in my hand. You got me good, you rebel you.

What's going to be the production fuck-up this week ? I say the camera follows Goldberg into a room, where Vince McMahon has Stephanie's breasts in his palm. Vince: Uh......this isn't SMACKDOWN, STEPH ! SAY I QUIT !! *starts twisting her nipples* Cameraman: Uh....worst case scenario. Get Maven out there NOW!

It's time to BEAT THE MAN ! OH YEAH ! Vote for Ripper.

Mik, I'm guessing you're the member of the group that everyone else makes fun of. No, wait, no. I missed this picture: With Random Girl You definitely ARE the cool one. My bad.

I love this. I laugh every time I read this comment again.

Crowd: R-V-D ! R-V-D ! Vince: Oh god, the crowd wants something, but I don't know what. What could those letters mean? Uh......Rodney Mack, get out there. I'm giving you the ball. *Vince sends Rodney Mack to the ring and the fans start booing* Crowd: This show sucks ! This show sucks ! Vince: Wait....I know....I'll appeal to the hometown crowd. Where's Fink ? Fink ! Fink: Yes, sir. Vince: Dress up as Tatanka, will you? Fink: No problem, Mr. McMahon. *Fink puts a headdress on, and paints his face. He then hops out to the "AIEIEIEIEIEIEIEEIEO" music, as one or two fans clap. Then......Rodney Mack squashes him* *Crowd boos* Vince: *groan* Do I have nothing they want ?! Wait...where's Mark Henry ? We'll get this crowd back!

So no matches planned yet for the Intercontinental Champion Rob Van Dam, former IC Champ Christian or Chris Jericho - but we got Garrison Cade, Mark Jindrak, Maven, and Rosey matches ahead of time. My god, that is an AWFUL Raw card. Just awful.

GOLDBERG IS A HUNTED MAN Oct. 6, 2003 Upset with losing the World Heavyweight Championship, Triple H has offered a $100,000 bounty to anybody that can rid WWE of Goldberg. It looks like Mark Henry is going to be the first man to try to collect. Can Henry destroy Goldberg? Also, Shane McMahon's maniacal in-ring style resulted in a trip to the hospital. While recuperating there, Kane brutally attacked Shane, leaving him in a pool of blood. This Monday on RAW, Shane McMahon returns. What will happen when Shane and Kane are under the same roof? Tune in to RAW (Spike TV, 9/8 CT) to find out. Credit: wwe.com

Here we go. Same pic from the topic in the LSD folder. My Pic

Can't we have both?

Well, to be fair, he's right. The Austin/Bischoff triathlon event was much funnier than the.....uh......um......the other triathlon events they've put on......um.....if there were any. SO PROPZ TO WWE~!

I actually really enjoyed Raw Roulette last year. It gave the show some kind of unpredictability and fun, something it hasn't seen in a while. (Sorry, but I DID laugh at Regal dressed up as a showgirl. Should I get the scissors to cut up my Smark membership card ?) I definitely wouldn't mind seeing the Roulette Wheel gimmick again

uh...... Bush's policies ? Racism and "d00der, dun say dat on da message b0ard!!!" ? MikeSC gets his ass kicked by his girlfriend ? Hmmm....what else IS there to mention in this topic?

Don't forget about bashing any of the following: -Undertaker (especially in past years) -Vince McMahon -Stephanie McMahon -Benoit's mic skills -other posters Jason Whoa, whoa, whoa. You forgot: -RVD's ability and mic skills -If RVD should win the Heavyweight Title -Randy Orton

They were the ME. ME gets blamed. Rob isn't that big a draw. ECW learned that. -=Mike with that line of thinking, Coach and JR are the biggest draws on raw and should ME every show from now on. WWE knows that they are one-pop deals. This was Rob's (and, I suppose, Christian) chance to show that they belong at the top --- and they didn't work out. This isn't like Benoit or Jericho, who drew a good number at FL 2K where they both ME'd and still didn't get the big push --- RVD and Christian didn't draw a respectable number. -=Mike You can't compare a Pay-Per-View and a 10 minute overrun on cable TV. They're two totally different situations and, as a situation, they can't be compared on the basis of success. Not to mention Fully Loaded took place in 2000, when there were a LOT more fans watching WWE Television than they are right now, 3 years later. The 3 year difference, and the PPV to free TV comparison, makes it difficult to even compare the two.

Well, no. He doesn't say anything like that until RVD and Christian are face-to-face and RVD does his thumb-point thing. Then, JR goes "I still say RVD is the greatest athlete to have never won the World Heavyweight Title. But the Intercontinental Title. So prestigious." Hey, I'm no JR fan at all, but let's hate him for the stuff he ACTUALLY says. He's been giving RVD verbal blowjobs lately, surprisingly, so I wouldn't bash him on it.

Your logic fails here though. If the fans knew the RVD/Christian ladder match would be the Main Event, why are RVD and Christian responsible for the rest of the show ? Especially since they hardly appeared on any worthwile vignettes during the night (RVD thanking Austin, Christian screwup). They can't be blamed for the screw-up because: a) It's not like they were all over the show this week, and fans tuned away to get away from them. and b) We don't know what the overrun rating was by the way.... c) I hardly call a 3.4 or 3.5 rating as the show tanking. Let's just wait to see how the ladder match itself did.

*sigh* Fine. Give me the last good match that Sean Morley has worked. Come on. To be the World Heavyweight Champion, you have to have some good matches. I can name some good RVD ones, even if people deny. Give me a title-caliber match he has had. Talking ? Eh, opinion. I think he has shit mic skills, and they're certainly no better than the average WWE wrestler. Good look? Fine. But you need more than a good look to be a champion. Nathan Jones had a good look, but we would never put the title on him, would we ? Paid his dues? That doesn't matter to me, as a fan, when I think of who would make a good champion.

Well, obviously. They're some of the more entertaining aspects of the show. So Orton, Goldberg, Henry, announcer wrestling - it is !

And there was hardly a vignette that hyped it during the show. Oh wait, RVD thanked Steve Austin for the match. Silly me. Must have forgot. And considering RVD/Christian was on in the final spot - and the OR isn't out yet - with almost no buildup during the show, they can't seriously be blamed for the ratings. That had to be a joke, right Mike ? Er.....right ?

Mike, I can't argue with you. It's like talking to a brick wall. It doesn't listen to you, doesn't make you any more intelligent. The only difference is that the wall doesn't give lame put-downs and doesn't bitch about non-sensical facts with no proof to back it up. So there, you're more infuriating to talk to than a brick wall. Congratulations. I don't have the time to constantly argue with you about stuff like last night, because you just LOVE to stick your fingers in your ears and go "Na, na, I can't hear you." So there you go. Great job. So would I. But I'm less concerned about protecting 140,000 soldiers than I am about protecting 290,000,000 citizens. Our soldiers can take care of themselves. They're well-trained and well-equipped, and they're the best in the world. Their morale is high, they're doing good work, and they don't want to do a half-assed job. We can help them best by giving them the support they need and NOT pulling them out before they've had time to wrap things up. If we do that again they'll only be heading back in another few years. Most of our soldiers can take care of themselves. But there are still those that can't overcome the numbers, or are being taken down by sneak attacks. These are the soldiers that upset me - because their deaths could be prevented. They are well-trained and well-equipped but make no mistake, their morale is not high. At this point, they WANT to go home. They're getting tired of some of the Iraqi resistance they're enduring and are just waiting to get home. From the CS Monitor: WASHINGTON – US troops facing extended deployments amid the danger, heat, and uncertainty of an Iraq occupation are suffering from low morale that has in some cases hit "rock bottom." Even as President Bush speaks of a "massive and long-term" undertaking in rebuilding Iraq, that effort, as well as the high tempo of US military operations around the globe, is taking its toll on individual troops Some frustrated troops stationed in Iraq are writing letters to representatives in Congress to request their units be repatriated. "Most soldiers would empty their bank accounts just for a plane ticket home," said one recent Congressional letter written by an Army soldier now based in Iraq. The soldier requested anonymity. In some units, there has been an increase in letters from the Red Cross stating soldiers are needed at home, as well as daily instances of female troops being sent home due to pregnancy. "Make no mistake, the level of morale for most soldiers that I've seen has hit rock bottom," said another soldier, an officer from the Army's 3rd Infantry Division in Iraq. Such open grumbling among troops comes as US commanders reevaluate the size and composition of the US-led coalition force needed to occupy Iraq. US Central Command, which is leading the occupation, is expected by mid-July to send a proposal to Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld on how many and what kind of troops are required, as well as on the rotation of forces there. At this point, they are getting SO frustrated that they would rather do a half-ass job and go home than continue to stay there. This shouldn't be how the soldiers feel, but they realize that a good number of Iraqis don't want them there and they are just tired of dealing with all the hardships and hostility. If they had the Iraqis helping him, the burden wouldn't feel so heavy. Irrelevant. Terrorism of any kind can no longer be suffered. Is relevant. There's no sign that Iraq was even preparing for a terrorist attack. To prove it, we were told that Iraq had a connection to 9/11. This hasn't been proven yet. So, until someone shows me that there was an attack being planned by Saddam for the future, I can't agree that the war was necessary during such an economic crisis. Yet. There CAN'T be that many more places in Iraq to search. It absolutely is. We have to prove that we have the resolve to see this through. It was precisely the kinds of actions you are advocating that gave al-Qaeda the nerve to pull off 9/11. They thought we'd run back to our borders as soon as the first body bags arrived. They have now learned that a great deal has changed since Mogadishu. My feeling is that we should have never started because it wasn't needed. So far, there hasn't been one rock-solid fact shown that said we needed to get Iraq right now, or face a terrorist attack in a month. I'm not advocating the kinds of actions that gave Al Qaeda nerve. I AGREED with the war in Afghanistan. The terrorists in there NEEDED to be captured and destroyed. It would have been a LOT better if we got Bin Laden, but we did get some terrorists. Great. It NEEDED to be done. But I don't see anything saying that this needed to. Unless we go into the humanitarian excuse, but then that means we'll be playing the humanitarian for anybody suffering all throughout the world. -My opinion, again: The people in the United States should be taken care of first before the people in Iraq, by the United States. The unemployed should be given jobs, the homeless should be helped, the economy should be improved. This stuff should be taken care of first, especially if we're going to be helped so little by the Iraqis for spending $100+ billion plus over there and toppling a government. Now we're improving their lives and neglecting those here that need help. This shouldn't be happening.

Like, say, building a memorial to the people who died in the WTC, the Pentagon, and Shanksville, Pennsylvania. Or giving the families of the victims some closure and comfort, and doing our utmost to ensure that nothing like 9/11 will ever happen again. Or living up to the ideals enshrined in our own Constitution. Not worth $100 billion? It's worth much, much more than that to me. I'm sorry, elaborate. I don't see what you're saying here. Yes, a fraction of the $100 billion dollars would be better spent on building a memorial. And, since not one document has been discovered linking Iraq with 9/11, or one weapon of mass destruction, let's not say this is a war to comfort those who lost a loved one on that day or to make sure no one will attack us again. That was what the war in Afghanistan was for.

Okay, but honestly, this does nothing for us now. Are the Iraqis to have an infinite time limit on when they decide to help us ? They're going to wait until after the 2004 election - and then what ? Wait some more to see if they can TRULY trust us ? We have soldiers dying on a daily basis. We have money constantly being sent out of America towards Iraq. But still, we have no trust and we aren't worth the trouble of getting the Iraqis to help defend for us. I think we have shown that this is an entirely different situation than the Gulf War and that obviously, there can be no backing out now. But still, they choose to remain quiet. Simple Arithmetic: Just say.....75% of the people in Iraq appreciate the American effort. 25% don't. For every Iraqi that murders an American soldier or throws rocks at a G.I., there should be three other Iraqis that beat the shit out of him. It's a large majority and would show that, since we decide to help the Iraqis, they decide to help us. But this isn't happening. I'm sorry, but I would like to see the Iraqis do SOMETHING for the soldiers in Iraq besides dance in the street. Now is the time to protect the soldiers - when the murders are daily. Not in 2005, 2006, 2010, whenever. When the situation has been a lot more stabilized, with no thanks to the Iraqis who FEEL gratitude but have no desire to SHOW it.

When I first read the question and description, the first person I thought of was Jack Tunney. But I pretty much don't know the answer besides haphazard guesses. I can keep going if you want...