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Is anyone reading this thread actually an undecided voter? How about just a "soft" supporter of one side or the other?

Let's not have this break down into partisan bickering...that's for every other topic in this folder. I want to analyze how they're doing and how this will effect the election, if at all.

I want to see this break down and end with one of them giving the other a powerbomb through a Jim Leherer's table.

I don't think he's looking like shit, that's a little harsh. And at least he isn't sighing at all of Bush's responses.

You're watching the debate, right? I haven't seen that. -=Mike Bush has been just fine so far.

They're talking about the same issue while avoiding each others criticisms and not even really addressing them...

Hussein...I mean Bin Laden...hell, what's the difference anyways? On a side note, I was talking to my girlfriend about the 2000 debates the other day and she said the reason she didn't want to support Gore in 2000 was he wore so much blush and talked like a woman she didn't think he'd be a good leader. Lol. Hopefully Kerry at least doesn't come off like a sissy tonight...

I think that's going to be the Republican strategy all night. Has Kerry ever really said that the world WASN'T safter without Hussein?

# of times Kerry has mentioned service = 1 Pretty good start so far, though.

I'm going to try and analyze this debate objectively as if I was an undecided voter who isn't clear on all the issues. I think it's going to be interesting.

Vince recently opened a religious website, and this is posted there. Thoughts? ============= "In my world, the world of professional wrestling, champions aren’t made. . .but rather created. You see, everything you see that takes place inside a wrestling ring is an illusion. The ring is a stage with the wrestlers serving as its’ actors. Nobody beats anybody—wins and loses are determined by the “booker”; the person writing the script. That’s where I come in. From the late 90’s to the early 2000’s, I was the most successful writer in the history of professional wrestling. My success was based on television ratings and during that period the World Wrestling Federation was reaching an audience of over 8 million people every Monday night. Perhaps my greatest claim to fame--being the brains behind the transformation of Dwayne Johnson. . .today you know him as one of the top movie stars in the world—“The Rock”. But, even as great as the Rock is—even he never beat anybody in becoming the World Wrestling Federation Champion. No, my pencil beat his opponents for him. My pencil was responsible for rewarding the Rock the WWF Heavyweight Championship of the world. My pencil was also responsible for stripping him of that same title. Stripping the title. . .that’s the basis of my testimony. The fact is, away from the lights, the camera and the action---there was only one person in my life that I should have crowned the true Champion. One person who was solely responsible for giving me the success I attained—the money, the prestige, the glory, the interview with Ms. Morning herself, Joan Lunden--the one man who I couldn’t have done any of it without. But unfortunately, I never stripped him of the title simply because I never gave it to him. As a matter of fact—I turned my back on him . . .ignored him. Why? It was simple . . .I didn’t need God. You see in my mid-30’s I was solely responsible for my success. It was all about ME, ME, ME. I was in TOTAL control and basically invincible. I didn’t need anybody—my friends, my wife, my kids and certainly not God. God: he was for those who were weak. He was a crutch for those who couldn’t stand on their own two feet. I was way above that—I was a giant in the wrestling business. I was Superman and no one could even tug on my cape. And, I did whatever it took. Whatever glued those eyeballs to that television set. . . I did it. Sex, violence, drugs, nudity, homosexuality, transvestites, men beating women, the killing of household pets, castration, the unnatural love between mother and her son, demonic worship, demonic sacrifice, blasphemy, degrading the cross, there was nothing off-limits; the fact was—I was the Anti-Christ of sports entertainment. Did I know it was wrong? Sure I did. But in an effort to stay on top, in an effort to please my boss, in an effort to be a “worldly” success, I simple hid behind the excuse—“I’m not writing this show for kids”. But the fact was—kids were watching. They were watching and we knew it—that’s why we were shipping out Stone Cold Steve Austin lollipops by the truckload every week. In my heart I knew it was wrong. You see, my heart wasn’t on the same page as my genius—as a matter of fact it wasn’t even in the same book. No, inside, deep within my soul, something wrong was going on. There was an internal struggle. My whole life was based on at least trying to do the right thing—but right now. . .at this point in my life. . .I was no longer listening to my heart. There was a part of me that just continued to push primarily because I was afraid of my own failure. But turning my back on my heart, or my “spirit”, almost became fatal. I became possessed by my success. There was only one small problem—with every goal I achieved I still felt emptiness. I keep reaching for “something” and it was just never there. . .I kept coming up empty. The status, the money, soon none of it meant anything. I just kept searching for. . . I don’t know what. The depression that followed was inevitable. The job now controlled me. I was a prisoner of my own success. In an effort to save my sanity I switched jobs. I jumped ship to Ted Turner’s World Championship Wrestling. From there things went from bad. . .to worse. The new challenge made no difference. What’s the point of achieving your goals when the end of the journey never satisfies you? At WCW I became an on-air character—I was a television star now. But, when the show was over. . .I was alone. I was sinking further and further into my own darkness. I didn’t even know my own family any more. My wife would tell me over and over again that she was raising our kids as a single parent—but here pleads for help fell on deaf ears. I just didn’t care anymore. When WCW was eventually sold I hooked on with another wrestling company—great, new challenges! But, who was I kidding? I was becoming hopeless by the day, by the hour, by the minute. What added to the misery was the feeling that I was free-falling from my peak. In my mind, I was soon becoming day-old newspaper. I just couldn’t accept the fact that at my mid-point in life, “my prime”, so to speak, that this was all there was. This is what it’s all about. No, this simply couldn’t be the meaning of life. What, God creates us only to then let the joke be on us. I wouldn’t accept that. . .I couldn’t accept that. But, at that point in time there was no other explanation. The truth was that I didn’t even know who I was anymore. My heart that was once my guiding light was becoming as black as the darkest night. I was quickly becoming filled with hate. I now even began to despise those who were once close to me. Friends became enemies. . .I hit rock bottom. I wish I could tell you it was a lightning bolt. . .but it wasn’t. . .it was more like a caffeine jolt. My heart, tired of being ignored for so many years decided to take a stand. I was overcome with a fleeting rush of, “What are you doing? Look at yourself. . .what have you become? For years I have been trying to tell you something—for years I have been trying to get your attention. That guiding light was always inside of you. You never understood why you always felt different from everybody else—well. . .do you understand now?!!!” At that moment—everything changed. My heart came out from within and blanketed my entire body. The spirit that was begging to come out for all those years was finally released. I was at peace with the world. . .I was at peace with myself. There was a calming that I had never experienced before. A force way beyond my control directed me to church that week. I didn’t even tell my own wife that I was going because I was too embarrassed. I had never “needed” any spiritual guidance before—remember I was always invincible—I could do it all—ALONE. That Sunday, in a sold-out auditorium the preacher was speaking directly to me. Every word was aimed at my entire life. I left church that day shaking. I now knew what it was that I was searching for for the better part of 20 years—and he was there all along. He was inside of me. . .he was in my heart. . he was truly God. From that moment on my entire demeanor changed. To put it as simply as I can—I couldn’t even as much as throw a tooth pick on the floor because I now understood that God created everything on this earth. I dove head first into the book—and just couldn’t get enough of his word. I became involved in the church—attending two different sermons, at two different churches, back-to-back every Sunday. I lived for the Lord; my true father. I wanted to do EVERYTHING to glorify his name and his kingdom. I took that faith to work with me, and now rather than hate a business I once loved I take every opportunity to share the word with those wrestlers who I can feel are reaching out and looking for the same thing I was. I got to know my family again—I fell in love with my wife one more time. I was truly reborn. I turned my life over to God and finally handed my maker the title as the one, and only, true champion of the world. In his book, “My Utmost for the Highest,” Oswald Chambers states, “Either Jesus Christ is the supreme authority on the human heart, or He is not worth paying any attention to. Am I prepared to trust the penetration of His Word into my heart, or would I prefer to trust my own `innocent ignorance?” So, now I ask you? Are you prepared? Are you listening to your heart? Or, are you being guided by the unknowing ways of the world--settings and situations that in the long run mean absolutely nothing. At one point in my life I made over $500,000 per year. Having been there and done that I can tell you from the bottom of my heart money isn’t going to bring you happiness—neither is success—neither is notoriety. What’s going to bring you happiness is what’s living inside each and every one of you right now. The voice that you hear every day. The voice that you try to ignore. . .just like I did. But I’ll tell you this—all of you will come face-to-face with your rock bottom for the simple fact that WE CAN”T DO IT WITHOUT HIM. He created us, he has the instructions, he knows what makes us tick. . . he knows our hearts. Listen to your heart. Let the Lord show you what HE intended for you—not the road you paved for yourself. Because at the end of the day it’s not about us at all—it’s all about him. Can you hear him right now? Are you going to listen, or turn a deaf ear? The only thing that depends on it is your eternal life."

Tapes are selling, get yours while you can...

Give him another chance, he's pretty damn good. Maybe his match with Cannon just wasn't that good, but Dragon vs. Strong should be great.

5306 votes since Sep 28 2004 HHH 14% 725 votes Chris Benoit 9% 463 votes Eddie Guerrero 7% 371 votes Kurt Angle 7% 363 votes Chris Jericho 9% 503 votes Shawn Michaels 15% 794 votes Randy Orton 8% 442 votes Undertaker 31% 1645 votes

Peter as a child: Whoa! Not only are ghosts real, but their innards are made of children!

Sorry if this isn't worth its own thread, feel free to delete it if it's not. There's a poll at tv.yahoo.com now asking who your favorite WWE star is. I always like to see WWE polls in mainstream outlets and the results. Current numbers: Question: Who's your favorite current WWE star? 4013 votes since Sep 28 2004 HHH 14% 547 votes Chris Benoit 8% 335 votes Eddie Guerrero 7% 294 votes Kurt Angle 7% 271 votes Chris Jericho 9% 360 votes Shawn Michaels 16% 626 votes Randy Orton 8% 333 votes Undertaker 31% 1247 votes

Hero vs. Nigel has been added to the 10/7 show.

Velocity: 1) Carlito Carribean Cool vs. Jobber (maybe a dark match? maybe not?) 2) Akio vs. Johnny the Bull 3) Bashams vs. Jobbers 4) Suzuki and Dupree vs. Shannon and Funaki Smackdown: 1) Dudley Boys vs. Rico and Charlie 2) Booker T vs. Paul London 3) JBL vs. Hardcore Holly 4) Spike Dudley vs. Nunzio 5) Eddie and RVD vs. Luther Reigns and Jindrak

Good for Chris, I hope he does well.

Looks kind of like a throwaway show...

WWE Smackdown spoilers from Wichita by Jerry Denton Ok I just got back from tonight's Smackdown live in Wichita, Kansas. Carlito Caribbean Cool made his debut against a jobber, and won . Torrie Wilson was guess ring announcer during the Bull & Akio match. Johnny the Bull defeated Akio The Bashams beat 2 local talent Funaki And Shannon Moore lost to Tag Champs Kenzo and Renee Dupree. The Start of Smackdown had Kurt Angle cut a promo on how he would have backup in his corner for the match at No Mercy, he then called his new clique out, Mark Jindrak and Luther Reigns. Kurt says that he will win at the pay per view and that he will have backup. Teddy Long then came out and said that if anyone interferes at No Mercy they would be fired. 1st match The Dudley Boyz defeated Rico and Haas with Miss Jackie. Dawn Marie was doin commentary and attacked Miss Jackie during the match. It turned into a cat fight and it was clothes coming up and almost off. dont know how much they'll edit. Undertaker had a promo with him telling JBL that he would be taking away to hell in the hearse. Booker T defeated Paul London when Kidman distracted London. Kidman after the match hit London with a chair and said that he would kick his ass at the pay per view. They had a pretaped interview with John Cena and he said in a rhyme that he would win at No Mercy. After commercial break John Heidenrich was on top of the Smackdown fist and he started to read everyone a new poem. After commercial it was JBL and Hardcore Holly 3 Hardcore Holly coming out to one of the biggest pops of the night defeated Jbl by DQ. JBL beat down Holly with a chair and the stairs causing Holly to bleed. After the match JBL gets spooked because the Undertaker shows up and he tells JBL that there were 4 men standing in his was off the title, Gangrel and Visora and then there was an explosion and in the corner of the arena is Orlando Jordan stuck to the Undertakers cross. Taker then tells JBL that has the last that stands in his way. After commercial Big Show cuts a promo about Kurt Angle. Nunzio defeated Spike Dudley with The Dudley Boyz In his corner in a non title match. The Main Event Luther Reigns and Mark Jindrak Defeat Eddie Guerrero and RVD. After the match saw RVD & Eddie getting attacked by Reigns, Angle, and Jindrak. After a miscue with the ring bell Angle takes out Jindrak while RVD takes out Reigns. Eddie and RVD give Angle Double frog splashes for the close of the show. All In all a good show. Some of this maybe a bit out of order such as promo spots and all.

A seventh live event for the month of October has been added to the IWA Mid-South Wrestling schedule! IWA Mid-South returns to the National Guard Armory (1015 S. Main Street) in Scottsburg, IN on Saturday night, October 9th. Bell time is 7:30pm. This will be our return to Scottsburg after an eleven month absense from the venue, and we're looking to make it a usual stop on the schedule, given fan support locally. Matches for this event will be announced during the coming week. The Scottsburg Armory is located less than one mile off Exit 29 on I-65. Signed for competition on both our Thursday, 10/7 event in New Albany, as well as Saturday, 10/9 in Scottsburg: Big Japan Pro Wrestling stars Ryuji Ito and Daisuke Sekimoto, in addition to your IWA favorites. Keep your eyes peeled to the IWA web site during the coming week for matches for New Albany and Scottsburg. Don't forget our weekly Tuesday night chat at the Official IWA Mid-South Yahoo Group TONIGHT, 9/28, beginning at 8pm Central/9pm Eastern. To participate, visit the chat section of http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iwamidsouth Call the IWA hotlines at 502-569-1701 in Louisville and 630-585-3958. www.iwamidsouthwrestling.com www.midwestwrestling.com

IWA Mid-South News for 09.28.04 -------------------------------------------------------- by Stacy McMackin, Moderator --EVANSVILLE CARD FOR 10/21 ANNOUNCED!! --SEVEN WRESTLERS CONFIRMED FOR 10/22 STRONG STYLE TOURNEY!! --IWA RETURNS TO NEW ALBANY 10/7!! IWA Mid-South Wrestling will present six events throughout the state of Indiana during the month of October. 10/7 New Albany, IN @ National Guard Armory 10/20 Bloomington, IN @ National Guard Armory 10/21 Evansville, IN @ National Guard Armory 10/22 Lafayette, IN @ National Guard Armory 10/23 Highland, IN @ Lincoln Center 10/28 New Albany, IN @ National Guard Armory The lineups for these events are still taking shape, and more matches will be announced during the coming weeks for each particular show. Already finalized is the card for our return to the Evansville, IN National Guard Armory (3300 Division Street) on Thursday night, 10/21. Bell time is 7:30pm. All seats just $15. ***IWA World Heavyweight Title Match*** [Champion] "Anarchist" ARIK CANNON vs. AUSTIN ARIES ***Four-Way Special Attraction*** "The Phenomenal" AJ STYLES vs. PETEY WILLIAMS vs. CHRIS SABIN vs. "Fallen Angel" CHRISTOPHER DANIELS ***Battle of the Big Men*** SAMOA JOE vs. ABYSS ***Challenge Match/Collyer's Request*** NIGEL McGUINNESS vs. CHAD COLLYER CM PUNK vs. ALEX SHELLEY CHRIS CANDIDO vs. DANNY DANIELS RODERICK STRONG vs. "Sexy" ACE STEEL BJ WHITMER vs. SUPER DRAGON JC BAILEY vs. RYAN BOZ The night before the Evansville card, Wednesday, 10/20, IWA comes to Bloomington, IN at the Armory. Look for the Bloomington card to be announced on the IWA web site during the coming days. Friday night, 10/22 IWA is back at the Lafayette, IN National Guard Armory (5220 East 200 South) for The Revolution 2004 Strong Style Tournament. Bell time is 7:30pm for this event. Tickets for this event are $20, $15, and $12 general admission, and will be available at the door. Ringside seats can also be reserved in advance by leaving your name and how many tickets you'd like held on the IWA Louisville hotline voicemail at 502-569-1701. Seven of the eight competitors in The Revolution 2004 tournament have been confirmed: "The Notorious 187" HOMICIDE, SAMOA JOE, BJ WHITMER, "The New Age Punisher" B-BOY, "The King of Diamonds" EDDIE KINGSTON, SUPER DRAGON, and RODERICK STRONG. Non-tournament bouts will also be featured on the Lafayette show. Saturday night, 10/23 is IWA's 8th Anniversary Show at the Lincoln Center (2450 Lincoln Street) in Highland, IN. Bell time for this event is 7pm. 8th Anniversary Ceremonies will begin at 6:30. Doors will open at 5:30. There will also be a late afternoon meet & greet at the Lincoln Center with all of the wrestlers on the show for ringside ticket holders. Already confirmed for 10/23 in Highland... ***IWA World Heavyweight Title/Rematch from TPI*** [Champion] "Anarchist" ARIK CANNON vs. "The Phenomenal" AJ STYLES ***Tag Team Grudge Match*** IAN ROTTEN & "American Dream" DUSTY RHODES vs. "Metalhead" STEVE STONE & CHRIS CANDIDO ***IWA Mid-South/NWA Midwest Women's Title Match*** [Champion] MERCEDES MARTINEZ vs. MICKIE KNUCKLES Plus many more matches to be announced in the coming weeks. IWA will then present a second October event at the Armory in New Albany on Thursday night, 10/28. All four events from this past week-- 9/15 Evansville, 9/16 New Albany, and 9/17 & 9/18 Highland, are now available on VHS release at http://www.smartmarkvideo.com/ Call the IWA hotlines at 502-569-1701 in Louisville and 630-585-3958 in Chicago. NWA NO LIMITS THIS FRIDAY IN ROCK ISLAND, IL -------------------------------------------------------- NWA No Limits Wrestling, an affiliate promotion of NWA Midwest, will hold their next event at the Masonic Temple (420 18th Street) in Rock Island, IL this Friday night, 10/1. Bell time is 7:30pm. Tickets are $12 in advance or $15 on the day of the show, and will be available at the door. The event is titled "Saints & Sinners" and features a main event of CM PUNK battling "Fallen Angel" CHRISTOPHER DANIELS. Also appearing will be IAN ROTTEN, "Anarchist" ARIK CANNON, MATT SYDAL, "Spyder" NATE WEBB, RYAN BOZ, DANNY DANIELS, TRUTH MARTINI, TRIK DAVIS, BRYCE BENJAMIN, CHANDLER McCLURE, MICKIE KNUCKLES, and more NWA Midwest stars. For more information on NWA No Limits, visit http://www.nlwrestling.com/ PHOTO GALLERIES FROM TPI NOW ON WEB -------------------------------------------------------- Photographer Vince Jones has uploaded some of his best shots from the TPI week quadruple shot. Check 'em out. http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=4213768 Additionally, over 130 digital images from the 9/18 IWA Mid-South women's six-way elimination match at TPI night two are now on the web. http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumIndex...a=31421999&sp=1

Well, I ordered it. We'll see if it's any good.

Gabe posted this on the ROH boards.